(06-27-2013 10:15 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

Tell that to the children that would go hungry, Robs.

It's always about the poor, until it isn't.

Be creative. If there are still mountains left, offer a B&B, hiking and hunting weekends. If you can't come up with something, find a job in the area, try moving(in state or out of state) to find a job. Hell, I heard Kentukcy has a **** load of maryjane growing. THey will soon have a HUGE industry if things keep changing. As I said, be creative.

(06-27-2013 10:26 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:24 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  VeeBee is only 12.

Is that the reason he sounds about one step above retarded?

Well, he sounds 2 steps above you so...

(06-27-2013 10:37 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:15 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

Tell that to the children that would go hungry, Robs.

It's always about the poor, until it isn't.

Be creative. If there are still mountains left, offer a B&B, hiking and hunting weekends. If you can't come up with something, find a job in the area, try moving(in state or out of state) to find a job. Hell, I heard Kentukcy has a **** load of maryjane growing. THey will soon have a HUGE industry if things keep changing. As I said, be creative.

So, let them eat cake.

(06-27-2013 10:42 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:37 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:15 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

Tell that to the children that would go hungry, Robs.

It's always about the poor, until it isn't.

Be creative. If there are still mountains left, offer a B&B, hiking and hunting weekends. If you can't come up with something, find a job in the area, try moving(in state or out of state) to find a job. Hell, I heard Kentukcy has a **** load of maryjane growing. THey will soon have a HUGE industry if things keep changing. As I said, be creative.

So, let them eat cake.

If they don't want to change, they can always go on welfare. :)

(06-27-2013 10:58 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:42 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:37 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:15 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

Tell that to the children that would go hungry, Robs.

It's always about the poor, until it isn't.

Be creative. If there are still mountains left, offer a B&B, hiking and hunting weekends. If you can't come up with something, find a job in the area, try moving(in state or out of state) to find a job. Hell, I heard Kentukcy has a **** load of maryjane growing. THey will soon have a HUGE industry if things keep changing. As I said, be creative.

So, let them eat cake.

If they don't want to change, they can always go on welfare. :)

Wow.

Was this your position when we were bailing out the auto industry?

(06-27-2013 07:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  West By-God Virginia won't like this either.

You don't say.

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

The natural gas industry will offset the jobs lost in the coal industry. No doubt about it.

(06-27-2013 08:52 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:28 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  With recent presidential orders, the Obama administration will begin to put restrictions on coal burning furnaces across the county. (IT"S ABOUT D - - - TIME!!!). This nasty industry will be put to the test in the near future. It also doesn't hurt that two of President Obama's largest opponents are Senator Mitch McConnell and Randy, Senator Rand Paul. It's also good for me personally. I have some decent investments in the natural gas industry most importantly the company for which my son works. This company is a huge natural gas explorer and producer. I'm certain the announcement will help those investments.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...a/2455903/

So lets get this straight.... You are OK, even giddy, with something that will hurt the poor in the US more than the rich in the US while doing nothing about world wide CO2 emissions because:

1 - It hurts people in states Obama does not like
2 - You personally have investments that will make you money

Not sure what your talking about, nor do I ever recall being giddy in my life. Natural gas is cleaner (over coal will help clean up the environment and Co2 emissions will improve dramatically as coal is the worst polluter around), natural gas is much cheaper to use, so the costs of electricity will go down. I think a part of the motivation for Obama is his attitude about those two senators.

(06-27-2013 10:26 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:24 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  VeeBee is only 12.

Is that the reason he sounds about one step above retarded?

I see you guys have taken this to a new level. Just think, over a couple of innocent comments on coal use vs natural gas and the obvious advantages. Crebman just can't and doesn't get it !!. Coal's days are numbered in the U.S. Just think, may grandfather was a coal miner, my son works in the natural gas industry. I remember my grandmother telling me that when my grandfather's group of coal miners went into the mine first, they ate their pie so if they happened to die on that particular day, they would have eaten and enjoyed the best part of their lunch. I have a stake in both sides and I'm on the side of natural gas.

(06-27-2013 04:51 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

The natural gas industry will offset the jobs lost in the coal industry. No doubt about it.

You are ignorant.

(06-27-2013 04:54 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  I think a part of the motivation for Obama is his attitude about those two senators.

So, he'd take down an industry because he doesn't like a couple of senators.

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Stop coal immediately and see how many people sit in the dark and complain.
We are living in a country that, I believe, has not built a new nuclear power plant
since the early 1970's.

So, Viewb, how will India or China burning that same coal (now it will be exported) reduce CO2 emissions worldwide?

The U.S. CO2 emissions are now the lowest they've been in 20 years.

Obama claimed to want energy prices here as high as they are in Europe and said so enthusiastically during his 2008 campaign. This is what he wants - so that the expensive alternatives like solar and wind won't look like such crappy investments, even if they are throwing money into a hole.

Would be great to use gas more....also, wind, solar, waves, thermal, nuclear,
but if you don't have things set up for it you have to use what you have.

The part of Kentucky that would be hurt the worst are the blue counties - there's a decent-sized pocket the Democrats currently own in Eastern Kentucky.

Louisville typically runs blue as well, and this would probably stymie a lot of momentum in bringing jobs to the area. Louisville had been making up a lot of ground in this area because the costs to do business are relatively low.

(06-27-2013 04:51 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jobs be damned. Affordable energy, eh. Vewb's gotta make a couple of bucks.

I would trade a few jobs in places for saving the damn mountains and the environment.

The natural gas industry will offset the jobs lost in the coal industry. No doubt about it.

Possibly...if coal goes the route of the buggy whip. Coal is not a buggy whip.

(06-27-2013 05:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Stop coal immediately and see how many people sit in the dark and complain.
We are living in a country that, I believe, has not built a new nuclear power plant
since the early 1970's.

Braidwood IL came on line in late 80s (I got a tour before it became active). As did some others throughout the country. They may have been originally licensed in the 70s though.

(06-28-2013 07:56 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Stop coal immediately and see how many people sit in the dark and complain.
We are living in a country that, I believe, has not built a new nuclear power plant
since the early 1970's.

Braidwood IL came on line in late 80s (I got a tour before it became active). As did some others throughout the country. They may have been originally licensed in the 70s though.

Watts Bar 2 came online recently after being used for parts for 20 years. The only reactor I've ever walking around INSIDE the core... pretty neat. Also one of the last Ice Condenser plants where in the case of a meltdown, tons of ice stored above the reactor are dropped.

McQuire and Catawba in Carolina are the only other 2 ice condensers I know of. Insane design, insanely dangerous, and still being used b/c Obama won't license new ones.

(06-28-2013 07:56 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Stop coal immediately and see how many people sit in the dark and complain.
We are living in a country that, I believe, has not built a new nuclear power plant
since the early 1970's.

Braidwood IL came on line in late 80s (I got a tour before it became active). As did some others throughout the country. They may have been originally licensed in the 70s though.

Some did take many years from start. However, would hope it didn't take that long, therefore I am probably wrong in that statement. I had read that previously, but not everything you read is correct, just like the internet.

(06-27-2013 05:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Stop coal immediately and see how many people sit in the dark and complain.
We are living in a country that, I believe, has not built a new nuclear power plant
since the early 1970's.

Wrong. Try again fool.