I appreciate both articles posted above by GA and Tiger46.

I knew the BB TV package was solid, but the TV exposure for FB is amazing - 90% of all games will be shown nationally?

But in BB, MEMPHIS and Louisville will be in a majority of the network national TV games. As I recall, the CBS 12 game deal requires 6 of those games be inter-conference. So we can anticipate MEMPHIS-UL, UL-UConn, Temple-MEMPHIS, Cincy-UL, MEMPHIS-UConn, and UL-Temple to be those games. CBS will then show 6 OOC games basically involving those same 5 teams. I only hope the Gonzaga-MEMPHIS game is on CBS because the Ok St game is a Tuesday night as is the Florida game in NYC. Both of those should be on ESPN, though.

I suspect the AAC tourney will be Thursday through Sunday. ESPN will carry the first three days and ABC will broadcast the championship game that Sunday. They also will cross their fingers and hope it is the TIGERS vs Cards.

I had FORGOTTEN about this item from the sale of the Big East name and C-7 departure:

The league has all but approved the split of revenue, an estimated $100 million of exit and entry fees and NCAA basketball credits, Aresco said. He declined to reveal the breakdown of the revenue shares, though it is likely the three incumbent schools — USF, UConn and Cincinnati — will take a larger share of the pot than the newcomers.

"We made a fair and equitable distribution plan for the realignment money and the units that have been left behind," Aresco said. "Everybody is very happy with it. . . . All we're really doing here is ratifying it."

Once more, for the record, my position on this $100mm split is:
- lawyers get $20mm
- AAC office gets $7mm
- UConn is THE remaining ORIGINAL member, they get $20mm
- USF and Cincy joined in 2003, they each get $15mm
- Temple joined in 2012, they get $4mm and pay no entry fee for full membership
- MEMPHIS, UCF, SMU, and Houston each get $3mm and pay no entry fee in July 2013
- ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane each get $2mm and pay no entry fee in July 2014
- Navy gets $1mm and pays no entry fee in July 2015

(05-24-2013 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  This article from the same source as GA's, mentions Memphis as the favorite for the men's basketball tournament

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...9386.story

Yeah, I think Aresco is slowly losing the PR battle to Martin and Bowen.

Would that be to "win" or to "host"?

(05-24-2013 02:21 PM)boss man Wrote:  I appreciate both articles posted above by GA and Tiger46.

I knew the BB TV package was solid, but the TV exposure for FB is amazing - 90% of all games will be shown nationally?

But in BB, MEMPHIS and Louisville will be in a majority of the network national TV games. As I recall, the CBS 12 game deal requires 6 of those games be inter-conference. So we can anticipate MEMPHIS-UL, UL-UConn, Temple-MEMPHIS, Cincy-UL, MEMPHIS-UConn, and UL-Temple to be those games. CBS will then show 6 OOC games basically involving those same 5 teams. I only hope the Gonzaga-MEMPHIS game is on CBS because the Ok St game is a Tuesday night as is the Florida game in NYC. Both of those should be on ESPN, though.

I suspect the AAC tourney will be Thursday through Sunday. ESPN will carry the first three days and ABC will broadcast the championship game that Sunday. They also will cross their fingers and hope it is the TIGERS vs Cards.

I had FORGOTTEN about this item from the sale of the Big East name and C-7 departure:

The league has all but approved the split of revenue, an estimated $100 million of exit and entry fees and NCAA basketball credits, Aresco said. He declined to reveal the breakdown of the revenue shares, though it is likely the three incumbent schools — USF, UConn and Cincinnati — will take a larger share of the pot than the newcomers.

"We made a fair and equitable distribution plan for the realignment money and the units that have been left behind," Aresco said. "Everybody is very happy with it. . . . All we're really doing here is ratifying it."

Once more, for the record, my position on this $100mm split is:
- lawyers get $20mm
- AAC office gets $7mm
- UConn is THE remaining ORIGINAL member, they get $20mm
- USF and Cincy joined in 2003, they each get $15mm
- Temple joined in 2012, they get $4mm and pay no entry fee for full membership
- MEMPHIS, UCF, SMU, and Houston each get $3mm and pay no entry fee in July 2013
- ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane each get $2mm and pay no entry fee in July 2014
- Navy gets $1mm and pays no entry fee in July 2015

Now I know where I know you. You guess age and weight at the fair, right?

Seriously, that is as likely as anything else I've seen. Its important to keep the old three in the fold so give them more cash. In a perfect world you give Memphis more money and everyone else less. Fair! Plus even more fair is give us the tourny every year and move the conference office here also.

(05-24-2013 02:25 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  This article from the same source as GA's, mentions Memphis as the favorite for the men's basketball tournament

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...9386.story

Yeah, I think Aresco is slowly losing the PR battle to Martin and Bowen.

Would that be to "win" or to "host"?

Win/lose the battle to host the first year. The "overwhelmingly majority" of the conference presidents favor Memphis to host. Aresco is adamant that we hold it at the Palestra, for previously documented reasons. Aresco is likely going to lose this one, but it hasn't been announced yet, b/c he was still trying to sway voters during the spring meeting.

I think we will win out soon, though.

(05-24-2013 02:21 PM)boss man Wrote:  I appreciate both articles posted above by GA and Tiger46.

I knew the BB TV package was solid, but the TV exposure for FB is amazing - 90% of all games will be shown nationally?

But in BB, MEMPHIS and Louisville will be in a majority of the network national TV games. As I recall, the CBS 12 game deal requires 6 of those games be inter-conference. So we can anticipate MEMPHIS-UL, UL-UConn, Temple-MEMPHIS, Cincy-UL, MEMPHIS-UConn, and UL-Temple to be those games. CBS will then show 6 OOC games basically involving those same 5 teams. I only hope the Gonzaga-MEMPHIS game is on CBS because the Ok St game is a Tuesday night as is the Florida game in NYC. Both of those should be on ESPN, though.

I suspect the AAC tourney will be Thursday through Sunday. ESPN will carry the first three days and ABC will broadcast the championship game that Sunday. They also will cross their fingers and hope it is the TIGERS vs Cards.

I had FORGOTTEN about this item from the sale of the Big East name and C-7 departure:

The league has all but approved the split of revenue, an estimated $100 million of exit and entry fees and NCAA basketball credits, Aresco said. He declined to reveal the breakdown of the revenue shares, though it is likely the three incumbent schools — USF, UConn and Cincinnati — will take a larger share of the pot than the newcomers.

"We made a fair and equitable distribution plan for the realignment money and the units that have been left behind," Aresco said. "Everybody is very happy with it. . . . All we're really doing here is ratifying it."

Once more, for the record, my position on this $100mm split is:
- lawyers get $20mm
- AAC office gets $7mm
- UConn is THE remaining ORIGINAL member, they get $20mm
- USF and Cincy joined in 2003, they each get $15mm
- Temple joined in 2012, they get $4mm and pay no entry fee for full membership
- MEMPHIS, UCF, SMU, and Houston each get $3mm and pay no entry fee in July 2013
- ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane each get $2mm and pay no entry fee in July 2014
- Navy gets $1mm and pays no entry fee in July 2015

My adjustments to your post:

1. CBS gets first choice for 12 APPEARANCES by AAC teams. They can pick 6 AAC in-conference games, 12 AAC OOC home games, or any combo in between, totaling no more than 12 appearances by AAC teams.

2. The AAC tourney will be held Wednesday through Saturday. For 2014, the #7/10 and #8/9 seeds will play the first day. The rest of the tourney will be a typical 8-team bracket.

3. Details not released, but it's a 60/40 split of $100M, old schools vs. new schools. UConn, UC and USF get $20M each. New schools get $40M to divide, with Temple getting slightly more, the 2013 entrants getting the next largest amount, then Tulsa and ECU getting smaller amounts, and Navy the least.

The total pot was approximately $110M. The lawyers and the league office split up the remaining $10M. The earlier reports of higher #s for these 2 groups were reportedly incorrect.

All payments will be dispersed over a 4-5 year period.

The $2.5M entrance fee from each new school is included as part of that $110M total, so the amount of cash each receives is essentially reduced by that amount.

(05-24-2013 11:44 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 09:40 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 09:30 AM)3601 Wrote:  I'm confused. The 2nd paragraph says our deal is with ESPN and CBS. The 4th paragraph mentions games on ESPN and ABC.

Is this a typo?

No. First, DISNEY OWNS ABC who owns ESPN. But the contract is with ESPN. So, most games (both sports) will be on ESPN, but a few select better games will be shown on ABC.

Meanwhile, CBS owns a small part of the BB contract (it has for years, and renewed, just as ESPN did), and has its pick of up to 12 basketball games, to be aired over the main CBS network only (not CBS Sports Network).

One other note: This contract doesn't start until 2013-14 BB season. The 2013 FB contract is still under the old TV deal.

fyp

So how many will be on the Disney Channel?

(05-24-2013 02:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 02:25 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  This article from the same source as GA's, mentions Memphis as the favorite for the men's basketball tournament

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...9386.story

Yeah, I think Aresco is slowly losing the PR battle to Martin and Bowen.

Would that be to "win" or to "host"?

Win/lose the battle to host the first year. The "overwhelmingly majority" of the conference presidents favor Memphis to host. Aresco is adamant that we hold it at the Palestra, for previously documented reasons. Aresco is likely going to lose this one, but it hasn't been announced yet, b/c he was still trying to sway voters during the spring meeting.

I think we will win out soon, though.

Has Aresco really "won one" yet?

(05-27-2013 02:34 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 02:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 02:25 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  This article from the same source as GA's, mentions Memphis as the favorite for the men's basketball tournament

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...9386.story

Yeah, I think Aresco is slowly losing the PR battle to Martin and Bowen.

Would that be to "win" or to "host"?

Win/lose the battle to host the first year. The "overwhelmingly majority" of the conference presidents favor Memphis to host. Aresco is adamant that we hold it at the Palestra, for previously documented reasons. Aresco is likely going to lose this one, but it hasn't been announced yet, b/c he was still trying to sway voters during the spring meeting.

I think we will win out soon, though.

Has Aresco really "won one" yet?

He won the stupid "American" conference naming battle.

(05-24-2013 02:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  My adjustments to your post:

1. CBS gets first choice for 12 APPEARANCES by AAC teams. They can pick 6 AAC in-conference games, 12 AAC OOC home games, or any combo in between, totaling no more than 12 appearances by AAC teams.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...eal-means/

This recent CA article reads that, "CBS will broadcast 12 games, and six of them have to be intra-conference games."

That makes it sound like 12 games are guaranteed, but that as many as six can be an ACC team vs. an OOC opponent.

If that is accurate then our top home OOC games against schools like Gonzaga, UT, etc. will likely end up on CBS.

(05-27-2013 04:41 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 02:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  My adjustments to your post:

1. CBS gets first choice for 12 APPEARANCES by AAC teams. They can pick 6 AAC in-conference games, 12 AAC OOC home games, or any combo in between, totaling no more than 12 appearances by AAC teams.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...eal-means/

This recent CA article reads that, "CBS will broadcast 12 games, and six of them have to be intra-conference games."

That makes it sound like 12 games are guaranteed, but that as many as six can be an ACC team vs. an OOC opponent.

If that is accurate then our top home OOC games against schools like Gonzaga, UT, etc. will likely end up on CBS.

Jeez....for the last time

WE DO NOT PLAY UT NEXT YEAR(or Barton couldn't transfer there)

thank you

3601, I don't know which is right, but the CA version is contrary to links posted on the AAC board, IIRC.

Relax, dude. I did not mean to imply that we are playing UT next season. However, I do think we'll play them again during the life of this TV contract.

3601, I don't know which is right, but the CA version is contrary to links posted on the AAC board, IIRC.

TripleA, I still don't have a clear answer to the following question. Maybe you can help:

When Veazey or Aresco say that X% of games will be on "National" TV, does that include ESPN3?

(05-27-2013 04:41 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 02:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  My adjustments to your post:

1. CBS gets first choice for 12 APPEARANCES by AAC teams. They can pick 6 AAC in-conference games, 12 AAC OOC home games, or any combo in between, totaling no more than 12 appearances by AAC teams.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...eal-means/

This recent CA article reads that, "CBS will broadcast 12 games, and six of them have to be intra-conference games."

That makes it sound like 12 games are guaranteed, but that as many as six can be an ACC team vs. an OOC opponent.

If that is accurate then our top home OOC games against schools like Gonzaga, UT, etc. will likely end up on CBS.

I saw that CA article also. Of course I hope it's 12 games on CBS. Gives us a better opportunity for multiple CBS games since after Louisville, I'd think Memphis and UConn would merit the most games.

If it is a guaranteed dozen then there is s good chance we could be on CBS 3-4 times per season after UL leaves.

In basketball, how many really interesting in conference games are there after Loserville leaves?

Memphis - Cincy (2)
Memphis - UConn (2)
Memphis - Temple (2)
Cincy - UConn (2)
Cincy - Temple (2)
UConn - Temple (2)

There are a total of 12 interesting games. They will be snapped up quickly. It is 100% in the program's best interest to play as many good OOC games as possible. Also, because there are so few interesting games; it will make all of Memphis, Cincy and UConn's games against 2nd tier opponents even more attractive.

(05-28-2013 10:18 AM)jlbphila Wrote:  TripleA, I still don't have a clear answer to the following question. Maybe you can help:

When Veazey or Aresco say that X% of games will be on "National" TV, does that include ESPN3?

No, apparently, if what has been reported in the media and posted so far on boards is accurate. They are talking ESPN or ESPN2, with a few games on ABC, plus the "up to 12" or whatever on CBS.

This is supposedly the one thing so far that went in our favor: The exposure on national TV. It is reportedly much better than the current BE TV deal, which we will operate under for this coming football season only. And it blows away our former CUSA exposure. Although the AAC money turned out to be G5, rather than P5 levels, due to all the defections, the exposure is great.

The AAC, in its negotiations, asked NBC for a certain number of OTA games, plus the rest on NBCSN, which has a reach of about 80M+ homes. When ESPN matched the lowball money offer, they also had to match the exposure offer. Someone posted that the contract actually specifies cable systems with at least 70M homes. That eliminates CBSSN, CSS, and a host of Fox regional cable systems. I think it eliminates ESPNU and ESPNews, too.

Now, the remaining games not covered under the 63% basketball and 90% football clauses, will likely wind up on some of those lesser channels, including perhaps ESPN3. No way to tell just yet.

Remember, though, this deal won't start until basketball season in November. The first FB TV season will be worse, although our bowl ties will be much better.

You gotta hang your hat on something. The national TV exposure seems to be one of the best things about our new situation.

It is a moot point, but I still like the idea of a corporate sponsor for the conference naming rights. Would the ESPN Conference have been so terrible?