(06-26-2013 12:40 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 11:00 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Also, Harrisonburg doesn't have an amusement park or hundreds of night clubs, but there's plenty to do. The whole damn Skyline Drive is a 30-minute drive away. It's not a city, but to pretend like there's nothing to do is like saying there's nothing to do in Fredericksburg. Sure, you're "right" compared to DC or VA Beach, but it's a lame excuse.

Glad you said it and I was about to ask.... For all you Harrisonburg "haters" with claims of nothing to do, what is it that you believe Hburg lacks? I've lived here for over 10 years now and I haven't really had a day off yet. There's lots to do! And I suppose it's all perspective but no matter where you live, that place is what you make it, and I can tell ya I have a damn good time in Harrisonburg and I've hardly tapped what the Shenandoah Valley has to offer! The people claiming there's nothing to do are usually the ones sitting around doing nothing, just sayin!

+1 Been here my whole life and never got bored with things to do. Colleges with sports entertainment, outdoors activities, and much more.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Harrisonburg doesn't change in the summer except for the fact that there are less students. The bars, the movie theater, the bowling alley are all still open the river is still there, The park is still there, the water park is open, the reason they find trouble is because they don't have class! Harrisonburg rules, blaming bad drug deals on how boring a town is, is so silly.

(06-26-2013 10:32 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I appreciate an Arthur Moats even more when this kind of thing happens.

+1

(06-26-2013 11:42 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 08:33 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Can anybody hear Durden & Malone laughing?

Laughing about what? The two young players that they may have recruited throwing the opportunity of their lives away? Or the hilarity of the young lady who's been shot with a rifle 3 times? Perhaps the slapstick of those crazy kids that will spend a real long time locked up for dealing the dope and shooting the place up when the deal went the way of so many of these transactions.

I'm sure those two are having a real belly laugh, if they're utter imbeciles.

Which, fortunately, they are not.

Uh oh, Dunk, watch out. Sensitive souls on this board will think you're sounding too much like me!

(06-26-2013 12:40 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 11:00 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Also, Harrisonburg doesn't have an amusement park or hundreds of night clubs, but there's plenty to do. The whole damn Skyline Drive is a 30-minute drive away. It's not a city, but to pretend like there's nothing to do is like saying there's nothing to do in Fredericksburg. Sure, you're "right" compared to DC or VA Beach, but it's a lame excuse.

Glad you said it and I was about to ask.... For all you Harrisonburg "haters" with claims of nothing to do, what is it that you believe Hburg lacks? I've lived here for over 10 years now and I haven't really had a day off yet. There's lots to do! And I suppose it's all perspective but no matter where you live, that place is what you make it, and I can tell ya I have a damn good time in Harrisonburg and I've hardly tapped what the Shenandoah Valley has to offer! The people claiming there's nothing to do are usually the ones sitting around doing nothing, just sayin!

+1

Just a couple thoughts:
1. It appears that like myself many posters love the outdoors and thus see H'burg as a wonderful place for adventure. However I don't believe most student athletes and esp. football players from Richmond/757/Baltimore share those same passions. So I understand the H'burg is boring (esp. during summer) thoughts.

2. Comparing this case to Ausar Walcotts: Ausar "(was) charged with first-degree attempted murder, second-degree aggravated assault and third-degree endangering an injured victim, said Salvatore Bellomo, a senior assistant prosecutor." But the shooter in H'burg "was charged with felony aggravated malicious wounding, felony use of a firearm in commission of an aggravated malicious wounding and felony maliciously shooting at an occupied motor vehicle." I'm assuming the murder charge would be dropped against Ausar but it seems like his charges were more significant than someone that shot multiple times at 3 people that were involved in a drug deal (vs. bar fight).

3. Should Davis and Crocker been dismissed from the team???? Chase Williams and Thorpe tested positive for weed twice and received a slap on the wrist and then a 5 game suspension. I KNOW the OUTCOME of this situation was much worst than a failed drug test but Davis and Crocker effectively did less that Williams and Thorpe. Someone in their party was shot however the only crime they truly committed was possession of weed (obv for Williams and Thorpe as well). Am I wrong to think this?

4. I hope for a full and speedy recovery of the victim and that all parties learn from the situation.

(06-27-2013 11:41 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Just a couple thoughts:
1. It appears that like myself many posters love the outdoors and thus see H'burg as a wonderful place for adventure. However I don't believe most student athletes and esp. football players from Richmond/757/Baltimore share those same passions. So I understand the H'burg is boring (esp. during summer) thoughts.

2. Comparing this case to Ausar Walcotts: Ausar "(was) charged with first-degree attempted murder, second-degree aggravated assault and third-degree endangering an injured victim, said Salvatore Bellomo, a senior assistant prosecutor." But the shooter in H'burg "was charged with felony aggravated malicious wounding, felony use of a firearm in commission of an aggravated malicious wounding and felony maliciously shooting at an occupied motor vehicle." I'm assuming the murder charge would be dropped against Ausar but it seems like his charges were more significant than someone that shot multiple times at 3 people that were involved in a drug deal (vs. bar fight).

3. Should Davis and Crocker been dismissed from the team???? Chase Williams and Thorpe tested positive for weed twice and received a slap on the wrist and then a 5 game suspension. I KNOW the OUTCOME of this situation was much worst than a failed drug test but Davis and Crocker effectively did less that Williams and Thorpe. Someone in their party was shot however the only crime they truly committed was possession of weed (obv for Williams and Thorpe as well). Am I wrong to think this?

4. I hope for a full and speedy recovery of the victim and that all parties learn from the situation.

They may well be charged with a crime if what I understand (solely from what's been posted here) is true. They were trying to rip off the dope dealer, correct? So, that could well be a variety of things I would imagine. conspiracy to commit a felony (I have no idea if these are the correct terms), robbery, possession, and my personal favorite and the most egregious of all of them- unnecessary stupidity.

Who knows, but getting a drunk in public, even when underage, is a far cry from stealing from the liquor store and someone getting shot in the process. And the defense of "well, what he did was worse" usually doesn't go too far.

I am certain that going 1-A will reduce the number of troublesome players we acquire.

The pressure is on coaches to win. Many will use whatever method is necessary to get the players that will help them do so. Coaches have looked the other way for years to keep talented kids in school. There is nothing new with this.

The real issue is in the level of problems being caused by these kids who lack character/maturity. A positive drug test is worse than a drunk in public. Drinking is not illegal unless you are under the age of 21. Drugs are. Guns and violence are something no school will tolerate. It hurts a schools reputation when students are being put in harms way, parents will send their children elsewhere.

As Dunk said, stealing is an add on to buying the drugs in the first place. They broke two laws. Buying then stealing. Can you be convicted of stealing illegal drugs? I don't know.

(06-26-2013 03:55 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 12:40 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 11:00 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Also, Harrisonburg doesn't have an amusement park or hundreds of night clubs, but there's plenty to do. The whole damn Skyline Drive is a 30-minute drive away. It's not a city, but to pretend like there's nothing to do is like saying there's nothing to do in Fredericksburg. Sure, you're "right" compared to DC or VA Beach, but it's a lame excuse.

Glad you said it and I was about to ask.... For all you Harrisonburg "haters" with claims of nothing to do, what is it that you believe Hburg lacks? I've lived here for over 10 years now and I haven't really had a day off yet. There's lots to do! And I suppose it's all perspective but no matter where you live, that place is what you make it, and I can tell ya I have a damn good time in Harrisonburg and I've hardly tapped what the Shenandoah Valley has to offer! The people claiming there's nothing to do are usually the ones sitting around doing nothing, just sayin!

+1 Been here my whole life and never got bored with things to do. Colleges with sports entertainment, outdoors activities, and much more.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Very simple. Things with women. There aren't many women for a college athlete hanging around training all summer. You also have to realize that most of these guys are dead broke.

(06-27-2013 12:43 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:41 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Just a couple thoughts:
1. It appears that like myself many posters love the outdoors and thus see H'burg as a wonderful place for adventure. However I don't believe most student athletes and esp. football players from Richmond/757/Baltimore share those same passions. So I understand the H'burg is boring (esp. during summer) thoughts.

2. Comparing this case to Ausar Walcotts: Ausar "(was) charged with first-degree attempted murder, second-degree aggravated assault and third-degree endangering an injured victim, said Salvatore Bellomo, a senior assistant prosecutor." But the shooter in H'burg "was charged with felony aggravated malicious wounding, felony use of a firearm in commission of an aggravated malicious wounding and felony maliciously shooting at an occupied motor vehicle." I'm assuming the murder charge would be dropped against Ausar but it seems like his charges were more significant than someone that shot multiple times at 3 people that were involved in a drug deal (vs. bar fight).

3. Should Davis and Crocker been dismissed from the team???? Chase Williams and Thorpe tested positive for weed twice and received a slap on the wrist and then a 5 game suspension. I KNOW the OUTCOME of this situation was much worst than a failed drug test but Davis and Crocker effectively did less that Williams and Thorpe. Someone in their party was shot however the only crime they truly committed was possession of weed (obv for Williams and Thorpe as well). Am I wrong to think this?

4. I hope for a full and speedy recovery of the victim and that all parties learn from the situation.

They may well be charged with a crime if what I understand (solely from what's been posted here) is true. They were trying to rip off the dope dealer, correct? So, that could well be a variety of things I would imagine. conspiracy to commit a felony (I have no idea if these are the correct terms), robbery, possession, and my personal favorite and the most egregious of all of them- unnecessary stupidity.

Who knows, but getting a drunk in public, even when underage, is a far cry from stealing from the liquor store and someone getting shot in the process. And the defense of "well, what he did was worse" usually doesn't go too far.

Davis had an incident in the past so this was strike 2 for him. Don't know anything about Crocker. Either way, no problem in evaluating the fact that policies in the past didn't work. I'm fine with zero tolerance as long as it's made very clear to these guys that this would be the outcome should they fall into some S.