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(04-17-2013 03:30 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  You could switch the colors to red and white and slap a UH logo on those uni's and I would still think they're god awful.

Anything with a UH logo would be God awful, even if it was Black and Gold.
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(04-17-2013 05:04 PM)GoGold Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 03:30 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  You could switch the colors to red and white and slap a UH logo on those uni's and I would still think they're god awful.

Anything with a UH logo would be God awful, even if it was Black and Gold.

Lmfao!
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(04-17-2013 03:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 03:50 PM)TTT Wrote:  The guy said we got the cheapest, crappiest jerseys Nike offered.......he infers that Nike only makes one kind of jersey (which they clearly don't). I clearly pointed out that we are cheap, therefor we got the cheap jerseys Nike offered. I then said we should've gotten the better quality jersey's that Nike offers...the kind that a gazillion other teams don't have...similar to the ones Wyoming switched too. Wyoming used to have the same jerseys that we had...then they realized that they suck and everyone has them so they ante up'd and got better ones. Nike has crap uni's and they also have really good uni's so it's not like Nike makes a bad jersey. You get what you pay for when you get Nike jerseys.

Old Wyoming uni's (which were just like ours and a gazillion other teams)
[Image: 9-8-2010-9-29-09-AM-3159692.jpg]

New Wyoming uni's:
[Image: 50418fd6309cd.preview-620.jpg]

okay....now how does equate to winning games? ...as an aside but pertinent, I can't tell the difference and I don't watch the View.....

Dude, you seriously have vision and anger issues. How does the newer Nike uni's equate to winning? Let's see, they are tighter/stretch fit. What does that mean? Players aren't having to be distracted w/ pulling their jersery out from under their shoulder pads after every tackle (I can't tell you how many times I saw our players do this while trying to read signals from the sidelines from coaches). Also, the higher quality fabrics are more "breathable" and don't capture sweat as much. There are TONS of ways the newer Nike uni's help players PERFORM better. Having the tighter/stretch fit means players are less likely to get pulled down and tackled. In other words, they aren't LOOSE. Dude, there are a tons of reasons why Nike's higher quality uni's help players perform better than the lower quality uni's. Don't be a dick man.
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ttt...u define what means the least of what matters...not only did not answer the question.....you keep on that george michael train
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(04-17-2013 05:07 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 03:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 03:50 PM)TTT Wrote:  The guy said we got the cheapest, crappiest jerseys Nike offered.......he infers that Nike only makes one kind of jersey (which they clearly don't). I clearly pointed out that we are cheap, therefor we got the cheap jerseys Nike offered. I then said we should've gotten the better quality jersey's that Nike offers...the kind that a gazillion other teams don't have...similar to the ones Wyoming switched too. Wyoming used to have the same jerseys that we had...then they realized that they suck and everyone has them so they ante up'd and got better ones. Nike has crap uni's and they also have really good uni's so it's not like Nike makes a bad jersey. You get what you pay for when you get Nike jerseys.

Old Wyoming uni's (which were just like ours and a gazillion other teams)
[Image: 9-8-2010-9-29-09-AM-3159692.jpg]

New Wyoming uni's:
[Image: 50418fd6309cd.preview-620.jpg]

okay....now how does equate to winning games? ...as an aside but pertinent, I can't tell the difference and I don't watch the View.....

Dude, you seriously have vision and anger issues. How does the newer Nike uni's equate to winning? Let's see, they are tighter/stretch fit. What does that mean? Players aren't having to be distracted w/ pulling their jersery out from under their shoulder pads after every tackle (I can't tell you how many times I saw our players do this while trying to read signals from the sidelines from coaches). Also, the higher quality fabrics are more "breathable" and don't capture sweat as much. There are TONS of ways the newer Nike uni's help players PERFORM better. Having the tighter/stretch fit means players are less likely to get pulled down and tackled. In other words, they aren't LOOSE. Dude, there are a tons of reasons why Nike's higher quality uni's help players perform better than the lower quality uni's. Don't be a dick man.

He is not being one. Stinkfist is one of the nicest posters on here. He is asking you a legitimate question.

You are not entirely correct, though you are on the right track.

Basically, what Nike does is it introduces new technology, tests it on one or a few teams, then updates its templates from the higher end down to the lower end. Since Nike got the NFL deal, that has been their highest template. You saw the sweat panels first on a few teams, then almost every NFL team had them. Now, they are on the top template in Nike's college uniforms.

The 'sweatbox' panels do not work as you seem to think they do. What they do is capture a player's sweat, then hold it close to his body to help keep him cool, but also dry. They are considered a major innovation that may be worth an extra win every year if you play a lot of one-possession games. You can tell which uniforms have the Nike 'sweatbox' panels by simply looking at players late in a game:

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The flip side for schools like Wyoming that negotiate with Nike to get the newer template jersey earlier is that Nike then either reduces their contract pay or forces them to wait longer before updating their jerseys again. That latter thing is usually not such a very big deal because most updates in uniform technology are minor and don't have the possibility of affecting the outcome of the game. A case in point is the "stretch" TTT referred to. What it is is a new fabric Nike introduced which has an outer layer that is more resistant to snagging and will not stretch as far as the old fabric. The fabric in the inner layer where it affects the snugness of the uniform is essentially unchanged. Unless Nike has changed the cut of the uniforms, the actual fit on the player should be the same between templates. The new template is just less likely to get pulled off the pads during a game.

FWIW, Nike would have eventually updated the templates for all its contract teams. It was a matter of patience.

I would rather have uniforms that the players can help design. Those look pretty good to me.

I am interested in what the military appreciation uniforms are going to look like.
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(04-17-2013 03:08 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I can sleep now knowing that Houston fans don't like the uniform.. Let's be honest they're not fond of Black and Gold.

Well its not like Youston will have to look at them every year or anything like that.........
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I am also thrilled we have a seven page (so far) thread without any pimping from arky state and the fighing Russel hanz from laffy
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We need to kick them out now. yuck.
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They look pretty good, I'm glad they kept things on the simple side.
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Not sure about the two tone pants.

IS that a map or a marble print on the numerals?
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(04-17-2013 07:34 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Not sure about the two tone pants.

IS that a map or a marble print on the numerals?

Pretty sure it's a rock motif
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(04-17-2013 03:24 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 01:56 PM)GCEagle Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 01:54 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  When I heard Russell Athletic, this is pretty much what I envisioned.

Jerseys seem pretty high school-ish. Can't put my finger on it. I think it is the number style. I actually do like the white jersey.

The pants: What the hell? If it were a wider stripe, I'd be a fan....but different colors on each side?

If they are paying us that much more than Nike, I'd be fine wearing practice jerseys with duct taped numbers on them. Given the financial state of the program, I'm all for the decision. Once we dig out of debt, I hope we go back to Nike.

The Nike jerseys we had before were the cheapest, crappiest jerseys Nike offers. I hope we never go back.

Think about what you just said. We got the cheapest, crappiest jerseys Nike offered...........because we are CHEAP, therefor we got the CHEAP ones...that EVERYONE has. I'm not a big fan of the new jerseys be/c they are high school jerseys. Whoever said ours are gonna be like no other teams lied be/c MANY high school teams use this same Russell template jersey we now have. I like Nike jerseys...not the crappy template ones that everyone used.

We used to wear the crappy Nike jersey's like this one:
[Image: 6a00d83451c3cb69e201157113af31970c-500pi]


instead of buying the REALLY good Nike uni's like these:
[Image: 20110317_tcb0025a_crop_650x440.jpg?1324227645]

I didn't realize we were buying our uniforms from Nike. Could you explain how our contract with Nike worked?
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Here's the official release:

HATTIESBURG, Miss. - The Southern Miss Department of Athletics and Russell Athletic (RML - NYSE) announced today an agreement to supply athletic apparel for its intercollegiate sports teams.

The agreement covers five years and encompasses total compensation for the University of $2.75 million.

"Russell Athletic couldn't be happier to partner with such a tremendous university like The University of Southern Mississippi," Russell Athletic Senior Vice President Gary Barfield said. "We look forward to being able to showcase Southern Miss as it grows its nationally-recognized brand."

For more than 100 years, Russell Athletic has supplied America's athletes and teams with the latest innovations in sports apparel. Russell Athletic is also a leading supplier of team uniforms at the high school, college and professional level.

"I am very pleased to announce that Russell Athletic will become the official athletic apparel provider for Southern Miss Athletics," Southern Miss Athletics Director Jeff Hammond said. "Under the leadership of President Rodney Bennett this is an extremely exciting time at Southern Miss and this partnership with Russell Athletic further solidifies our future."

The uniforms will give the Golden Eagles a new look for the upcoming season, and will feature the following state of the art technology:

New "MSC" fabric with improved durability along with mesh construction for breathability
This fabric has high stretch and high strength for added compression
New "RussTwill" that reduces jersey weight and gives more stretch for airtight fit
New neck construction for a more comfortable fit

The deal begins with the 2013-14 academic year and will run through the end of the 2018-19 athletic schedules.

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The deal we have with Russell, from what I've heard, is MUCH more financially friendly to USM than the Nike one was. We're being treated as a premiere customer instead of an also-ran, so we're getting their top-of-the-line items instead of the cheapest items in the catalogue. At the press conference Russell's VP was on hand and said he spent a lot of time as a kid at USM because his dad played football there and remained a loyal alum throughout his life, so this contract was personal for him.
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Rumor is that GT and Southern Miss are to be Russell's premier schools. Apparently Russell is about to begin a push to get back into the College Uniform game and we are lucky enough to be part of that platform. Not to mention the money is nice and our kids are being supplied with a larger range of products. I am really hoping that this contract is productive for both sides and becomes a long term relationship.
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Not that my opinion is worth anything in this discussion, but I like the new uniforms and the "classic" style numbers. It might take a me a couple of quarters for the pants to soak in, but after a game or two; I think I'd be a fan of them also.
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(04-17-2013 09:56 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Not that my opinion is worth anything in this discussion, but I like the new uniforms and the "classic" style numbers. It might take a me a couple of quarters for the pants to soak in, but after a game or two; I think I'd be a fan of them also.

How are the shattered glass numbers "classic" in any sense of the term? Not hating just trying to figure you're logic...
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(04-17-2013 09:54 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  Rumor is that GT and Southern Miss are to be Russell's premier schools. Apparently Russell is about to begin a push to get back into the College Uniform game and we are lucky enough to be part of that platform. Not to mention the money is nice and our kids are being supplied with a larger range of products. I am really hoping that this contract is productive for both sides and becomes a long term relationship.

USM is not going to be anymore of a Premier brand for russell than C ST or WKU or OHIO. This level of involvement is just the way they operate.
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(04-18-2013 06:40 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 09:56 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Not that my opinion is worth anything in this discussion, but I like the new uniforms and the "classic" style numbers. It might take a me a couple of quarters for the pants to soak in, but after a game or two; I think I'd be a fan of them also.

How are the shattered glass numbers "classic" in any sense of the term? Not hating just trying to figure you're logic...

Not glass, rock.
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(04-18-2013 07:41 AM)GrandPointEagle Wrote:  
(04-18-2013 06:40 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 09:56 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Not that my opinion is worth anything in this discussion, but I like the new uniforms and the "classic" style numbers. It might take a me a couple of quarters for the pants to soak in, but after a game or two; I think I'd be a fan of them also.

How are the shattered glass numbers "classic" in any sense of the term? Not hating just trying to figure you're logic...

Not glass, rock.

I understand your point. ToT, and agree there's nothing "classic" about the cracked/crackle effect. I was referring to the size and style and not the effect. I'm not a fan of any "effect" on numbers, but I don't think that you'll even see that from the stands.

edit....I was answering ToT and probably should have quoted him and not you, GrandPoint.
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(04-18-2013 06:47 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 09:54 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  Rumor is that GT and Southern Miss are to be Russell's premier schools. Apparently Russell is about to begin a push to get back into the College Uniform game and we are lucky enough to be part of that platform. Not to mention the money is nice and our kids are being supplied with a larger range of products. I am really hoping that this contract is productive for both sides and becomes a long term relationship.

USM is not going to be anymore of a Premier brand for russell than C ST or WKU or OHIO. This level of involvement is just the way they operate.

Wow you're touchy on this subject huh.
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