There's no way anybody who watched that game thought Kent State was anywhere near as good as NIU. Didn't they have like 90 yards of total offense thru 3 quarters?

With that being said, isn't the game at Kent State? That's going to be a tough one.

(04-16-2013 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:26 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  They had ZERO penalties that game.

I mean, there could have been calls against us that they didn't call. Zero penalties is odd, certainly. But it could also explain why we ran through them quite a bit, they were playing less aggressively. I have no doubt that Kent State was comparable to Ball State and Toledo. In fact, they beat Ball State.

Zero penalties is not odd. Zero penalties is a joke. To play a double overtime game and have no penalties called is a joke in itself. To play double overtime game where you were physically dominated for 3 quarters and still didn't have a penalty called on you is even more of a joke.

(04-16-2013 04:27 PM)7 Wrote:  There's no way anybody who watched that game thought Kent State was anywhere near as good as NIU. Didn't they have like 90 yards of total offense thru 3 quarters?

With that being said, isn't the game at Kent State? That's going to be a tough one.

It is at Kent State.

(04-16-2013 04:29 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:26 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  They had ZERO penalties that game.

I mean, there could have been calls against us that they didn't call. Zero penalties is odd, certainly. But it could also explain why we ran through them quite a bit, they were playing less aggressively. I have no doubt that Kent State was comparable to Ball State and Toledo. In fact, they beat Ball State.

Zero penalties is not odd. Zero penalties is a joke. To play a double overtime game and have no penalties called is a joke in itself. To play double overtime game where you were physically dominated for 3 quarters and still didn't have a penalty called on you is even more of a joke.

It's much easier to get dominated when you aren't pushing the issue with holding, close coverage, etc.

(04-16-2013 04:29 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:26 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  They had ZERO penalties that game.

I mean, there could have been calls against us that they didn't call. Zero penalties is odd, certainly. But it could also explain why we ran through them quite a bit, they were playing less aggressively. I have no doubt that Kent State was comparable to Ball State and Toledo. In fact, they beat Ball State.

Zero penalties is not odd. Zero penalties is a joke. To play a double overtime game and have no penalties called is a joke in itself. To play double overtime game where you were physically dominated for 3 quarters and still didn't have a penalty called on you is even more of a joke.

NIU only had 6 penalties - Intentional grounding, which as I remember was very obvious, offside, which was fairly obvious too, 1 illegal motion, 2 on kick returns and 1 pass interference.

(04-16-2013 04:27 PM)7 Wrote:  There's no way anybody who watched that game thought Kent State was anywhere near as good as NIU. Didn't they have like 90 yards of total offense thru 3 quarters?

With that being said, isn't the game at Kent State? That's going to be a tough one.

Bingo. They will be amped to play us no doubt.

(04-16-2013 04:10 PM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  Kent State my be one of the tougher MAC teams on the schedule, but the game is expendable as far as the division title is concerned. KSU alone can not keep NIU from going back to Detroit.

That game is not "expendable." Lose it and we have no margin for error. Although we got away with it in 2011, you don't won't to start the MAC schedule off with a loss.

(04-16-2013 04:59 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 04:29 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:26 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  They had ZERO penalties that game.

I mean, there could have been calls against us that they didn't call. Zero penalties is odd, certainly. But it could also explain why we ran through them quite a bit, they were playing less aggressively. I have no doubt that Kent State was comparable to Ball State and Toledo. In fact, they beat Ball State.

Zero penalties is not odd. Zero penalties is a joke. To play a double overtime game and have no penalties called is a joke in itself. To play double overtime game where you were physically dominated for 3 quarters and still didn't have a penalty called on you is even more of a joke.

NIU only had 6 penalties - Intentional grounding, which as I remember was very obvious, offside, which was fairly obvious too, 1 illegal motion, 2 on kick returns and 1 pass interference.

Progar got held on Kent State's last TD, Bass got blocked in the back on Archer's TD.

"OUR GOAL IS TO PLAY THE FIESTA BOWL!"

Really. Interesting. How many of you actually currently play for NIU? If the TEAM and PLAYERS want to make that THEIR goal, fine. When the AD says it, that is HIS expectation of NIU FOOTBALL, which is wrong. If a coach says it, FINE. Again, his team, his coaching, his direct control over the team. I don't agree when coaches and players saying it, but then again they aren't going to say "our goal is 10-2 and Mobile.

Fans need to understand they are just that FANS. You want to use the words "our" and my personal favorite "we" as in "when do we play...." or "we played bad/well." When the team wins, it's great to feel a part of it as you should. But don't take credit like "I made noise at the game, I supported." Unless when the TEAM loses, you not only sit their and "feel the pain they do" but can say YOU were responsible for the lose directly by play calling, lack of execution or even effort unless again, YOU are a coach or a player.

But then again, most likely when YOUR expectations are not met by THEM you point the finger at THEM why WE, or THEY lost.

(04-16-2013 07:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  "OUR GOAL IS TO PLAY THE FIESTA BOWL!"

Really. Interesting. How many of you actually currently play for NIU? If the TEAM and PLAYERS want to make that THEIR goal, fine. When the AD says it, that is HIS expectation of NIU FOOTBALL, which is wrong. If a coach says it, FINE. Again, his team, his coaching, his direct control over the team. I don't agree when coaches and players saying it, but then again they aren't going to say "our goal is 10-2 and Mobile.

Fans need to understand they are just that FANS. You want to use the words "our" and my personal favorite "we" as in "when do we play...." or "we played bad/well." When the team wins, it's great to feel a part of it as you should. But don't take credit like "I made noise at the game, I supported." Unless when the TEAM loses, you not only sit their and "feel the pain they do" but can say YOU were responsible for the lose directly by play calling, lack of execution or even effort unless again, YOU are a coach or a player.

But then again, most likely when YOUR expectations are not met by THEM you point the finger at THEM why WE, or THEY lost.

Um, I don't see anybody on the board taking credit when NIU wins. We're proud they won because it's our school's team.

But ok.

(04-16-2013 06:50 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 04:59 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 04:29 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:26 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  They had ZERO penalties that game.

I mean, there could have been calls against us that they didn't call. Zero penalties is odd, certainly. But it could also explain why we ran through them quite a bit, they were playing less aggressively. I have no doubt that Kent State was comparable to Ball State and Toledo. In fact, they beat Ball State.

Zero penalties is not odd. Zero penalties is a joke. To play a double overtime game and have no penalties called is a joke in itself. To play double overtime game where you were physically dominated for 3 quarters and still didn't have a penalty called on you is even more of a joke.

NIU only had 6 penalties - Intentional grounding, which as I remember was very obvious, offside, which was fairly obvious too, 1 illegal motion, 2 on kick returns and 1 pass interference.

Progar got held on Kent State's last TD, Bass got blocked in the back on Archer's TD.

The point is that we may have gotten away with some too - maybe less obvious than the block in the back on Archer's TD, but still.

I have no doubt our guys are talented enough to run the table. However:
*-There is doubt whether our coaching staff can make the decisions and strategize to win us all those close games that we've won for the last couple years. I was disappointed that a lot of us on this board said we can't rely on Jordan dominating the ground game against FSU and yet we kept pounding the middle with J-Lynch time after time: Frustrating. We needed a game plan utilizing the TEs and the bubble screens, like so many of us the board said. We needed a Boise State game plan like they had against Oklahoma a few years back.
*-There is doubt whether our defense can come together and play at a high enough level to get the stops when it matters.
*-There is some doubt whether our one of our receivers can step up and make the big plays at crucial times that Martel made last year and NaPalm did the year before.
Let's hope the HUSKIES erase all those doubts upcoming season.

(04-16-2013 07:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  "OUR GOAL IS TO PLAY THE FIESTA BOWL!"

Really. Interesting. How many of you actually currently play for NIU? If the TEAM and PLAYERS want to make that THEIR goal, fine. When the AD says it, that is HIS expectation of NIU FOOTBALL, which is wrong. If a coach says it, FINE. Again, his team, his coaching, his direct control over the team. I don't agree when coaches and players saying it, but then again they aren't going to say "our goal is 10-2 and Mobile.

Fans need to understand they are just that FANS. You want to use the words "our" and my personal favorite "we" as in "when do we play...." or "we played bad/well." When the team wins, it's great to feel a part of it as you should. But don't take credit like "I made noise at the game, I supported." Unless when the TEAM loses, you not only sit their and "feel the pain they do" but can say YOU were responsible for the lose directly by play calling, lack of execution or even effort unless again, YOU are a coach or a player.

But then again, most likely when YOUR expectations are not met by THEM you point the finger at THEM why WE, or THEY lost.

In sports, if your goal is ANYTHING LESS than championships and achieving the pinaccle of success in your sport, then what are you playing for? The participation trophy and ice cream?!

(04-17-2013 07:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I have no doubt our guys are talented enough to run the table. However:
*-There is doubt whether our coaching staff can make the decisions and strategize to win us all those close games that we've won for the last couple years. I was disappointed that a lot of us on this board said we can't rely on Jordan dominating the ground game against FSU and yet we kept pounding the middle with J-Lynch time after time: Frustrating. We needed a game plan utilizing the TEs and the bubble screens, like so many of us the board said. We needed a Boise State game plan like they had against Oklahoma a few years back.
*-There is doubt whether our defense can come together and play at a high enough level to get the stops when it matters.
*-There is some doubt whether our one of our receivers can step up and make the big plays at crucial times that Martel made last year and NaPalm did the year before.
Let's hope the HUSKIES erase all those doubts upcoming season.

we were limited at running back. Akeem had turf toe and they spot played him in th OB. That left JL. The plan for the upcomming season is to run him much less and look for the two incomming frosh RBs to get a good look. Just think if a Chad Spahn was in the backfield with JL, different FSU approach to their defense

I don't know how anyone has a problem with them having big goals. Why wouldn't they want to get to the Fiesta Bowl. You look at their schedule, you look at the talent, if they play up to their abilities, it's not out of reach by any means.

Yeah, it'll be hard, and it's not likely they have another season like last year, but you don't set goals that are easily attainable, that doesn't get you anywhere.

(04-17-2013 09:10 AM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  I don't know how anyone has a problem with them having big goals. Why wouldn't they want to get to the Fiesta Bowl. You look at their schedule, you look at the talent, if they play up to their abilities, it's not out of reach by any means.

Yeah, it'll be hard, and it's not likely they have another season like last year, but you don't set goals that are easily attainable, that doesn't get you anywhere.

+1. As long as they can handle it if they lose once or twice and the Fiesta bowl dream goes out the window, can they still push for the MAC threepeat.

The goal is the Championship, but if you don't keep your eye on the next team it will bite you. Happens all the time, no trap games for us. The team has to take one game at a time. Iowa is first, then Idaho. Why think about Idaho now, Iowa is the first meal. I would hate for us to be typing boy I would love to have that game back.... the goal is Championship, but there is a recipe to getting to it, one team at a time.

(04-17-2013 03:42 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  The goal is the Championship, but if you don't keep your eye on the next team it will bite you. Happens all the time, no trap games for us. The team has to take one game at a time. Iowa is first, then Idaho. Why think about Idaho now, Iowa is the first meal. I would hate for us to be typing boy I would love to have that game back.... the goal is Championship, but there is a recipe to getting to it, one team at a time.

Are you playing in the Iowa game? Am I? We can look towards whatever we want to.

(04-17-2013 03:43 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 03:42 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  The goal is the Championship, but if you don't keep your eye on the next team it will bite you. Happens all the time, no trap games for us. The team has to take one game at a time. Iowa is first, then Idaho. Why think about Idaho now, Iowa is the first meal. I would hate for us to be typing boy I would love to have that game back.... the goal is Championship, but there is a recipe to getting to it, one team at a time.

Are you playing in the Iowa game? Am I? We can look towards whatever we want to.

I played 4 years at NIU, 7, you're a punkass if you believe what you just typed. If you read above again, I am stating what the goal is, but you don't get to Fiesta by only looking 13 games away. It's not your team dumb***, it's our team. For those of us that are not playing anymore but now spending $12,000 taking our families cross country to Orange Bowls and other games, its our team as well. We sacrifice and donate, don't pull that crap on loyal fans, graduate, give back and support and you will know where we (me) are coming from.

(04-17-2013 04:03 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 03:43 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 03:42 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  The goal is the Championship, but if you don't keep your eye on the next team it will bite you. Happens all the time, no trap games for us. The team has to take one game at a time. Iowa is first, then Idaho. Why think about Idaho now, Iowa is the first meal. I would hate for us to be typing boy I would love to have that game back.... the goal is Championship, but there is a recipe to getting to it, one team at a time.

Are you playing in the Iowa game? Am I? We can look towards whatever we want to.

I played 4 years at NIU, 7, you're a punkass if you believe what you just typed. If you read above again, I am stating what the goal is, but you don't get to Fiesta by only looking 13 games away. It's not your team dumb***, it's our team. For those of us that are not playing anymore but now spending $12,000 taking our families cross country to Orange Bowls and other games, its our team as well. We sacrifice and donate, don't pull that crap on loyal fans, graduate, give back and support and you will know where we (me) are coming from.

What are you talking about? Thanks for your fan background, but that doesn't change the fact what you or I do or think before a game has zero effect on the team. Again, fans can overlook whatever team or look forward to whatever game they want to. It has no effect on the outcome of any game, ever. That was my point. Settle down.

If you think you or me overlooking EIU because we play Purdue the week after somehow effects how well the team would play against EIU, well, then that may be the most illogical thing I've ever heard. The players win games, the players lose games. I have to believe you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

(04-17-2013 04:10 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 04:03 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 03:43 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 03:42 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  The goal is the Championship, but if you don't keep your eye on the next team it will bite you. Happens all the time, no trap games for us. The team has to take one game at a time. Iowa is first, then Idaho. Why think about Idaho now, Iowa is the first meal. I would hate for us to be typing boy I would love to have that game back.... the goal is Championship, but there is a recipe to getting to it, one team at a time.

Are you playing in the Iowa game? Am I? We can look towards whatever we want to.

I played 4 years at NIU, 7, you're a punkass if you believe what you just typed. If you read above again, I am stating what the goal is, but you don't get to Fiesta by only looking 13 games away. It's not your team dumb***, it's our team. For those of us that are not playing anymore but now spending $12,000 taking our families cross country to Orange Bowls and other games, its our team as well. We sacrifice and donate, don't pull that crap on loyal fans, graduate, give back and support and you will know where we (me) are coming from.

What are you talking about? Thanks for your fan background, but that doesn't change the fact what you or I do or think before a game has zero effect on the team. Again, fans can overlook whatever team or look forward to whatever game they want to. It has no effect on the outcome of any game, ever. That was my point. Settle down.

I would agree for the most part but there is a vibe when the school and fan base is behind the team. So if the fans don't show up for a game that NIU should win or don't show up strong for a bowl game that will not have any affect on the game? Win or lose? I would argue that the fans that showed up for the belief factor for the Boise game against Fresno had a huge affect. Fans directly affect a games out come, home court advantage? A strong fan base will directly reflect and set the tone for a team. The few people that were at the Boise game were louder and more involved in the game, more involved than the Fresno State and Boise fans cheering for Fresno. Chandler was feeding off it, you could see the team feeding off our energy. Fans have to know and align their expectations with the teams expectations, show up for every game you can, strong showings for every game....
I am sorry for the name calling, I care to much, fault of mine. I think we are saying the same thing, I am just saying it better. :) You build a Championship brick by brick, game by game. Do that, you get to Championships, but the goal has to be there. We have 52 quarters of football with 13 teams, a lot can happen if you lose focus on what you are doing right now...again, sorry for the name calling, my fault and will fix my faults on the board. Not with the dirty rotten Turd Rockets though.