(04-01-2013 11:31 AM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 11:27 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 11:16 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:54 AM)eaglemachine Wrote:  One of the reasons I am not too excited about Liberty is concerns about how well they will be able to compete. Have they ever even been to the fcs playoffs?

I think you and I might be one of the only ones that have figured that out. Everyone else is arguing theology. Check your gods at the ticket booth, patrons; Jesus will not be throwing any touchdown passes this year (or any year).

I posted the other day that LU is not even listed on the 20,000 and more attendance level in FCS.
Rankings LU was not listed in the top FCS schools of the top 38 shown.
Have never made the FCS playoffs.
That after hiring and spending big money on every well known coach and assistants they could hire.
Doesn't seem that football players are on the road to Christians for Christ nearly as much as some would have everyone believe.

Gotta love all the misinformation on this board. Some of you are college graduates? Liberty not in the top THIRTY EIGHT in FCS attendance? It doesn't take a bachelor's degree to see the absurdity in that statement, without even knowing the facts.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2012/Internet/a...M_ID=28100

11th in attendance last year.


Debate is good. Just make sure you come to the table with facts. I'm a shark for numbers, I will find them and disprove anyone who throws them out there into the wind.

I think he meant top 38 in ranking as in top football teams, not top football attendance. In which case he is correct, and illustrates my previous point perfectly. If we're going to grab FCS teams, they better be Top 25 consistently.

After making a "boss" statement like you did, I'd hope you were right on what you thought me meant, otherwise I'm going to start calling you sharkytheblowfish.

By the way Campaign4Liberty:
Your statement, "Debate is good. Just make sure you come to the table with facts. I'm a shark for numbers, I will find them and disprove anyone who throws them out there into the wind."

You should understand what you have read before making statements that are not true as you just did.

The statement of not being ranked in the top 38 FCS teams came from the NCAA web site yesterday.
Otherwords, LU had a poorly ranked football team due to their accomplishments (nothing to do with attendance).

(04-01-2013 11:44 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  By the way Campaign4Liberty:
Your statement, "Debate is good. Just make sure you come to the table with facts. I'm a shark for numbers, I will find them and disprove anyone who throws them out there into the wind."

You should understand what you have read before making statements that are not true as you just did.

Shark for numbers...guppie for words

(04-01-2013 11:44 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  By the way Campaign4Liberty:
Your statement, "Debate is good. Just make sure you come to the table with facts. I'm a shark for numbers, I will find them and disprove anyone who throws them out there into the wind."

You should understand what you have read before making statements that are not true as you just did.

A shark for numbers, a blowfish for words.

Liberty should be fetured on "My life in a Cult". There is no way if I were in the Sun Belt I would want my school to even be halfway associated with the school in Lynchburg VA. Is "Liberty" an oxymoron or something, its far from what you have on campus....

I mentioned in a previous thread that LU would be competitive in all sports but FB and MBB. Although, to modify, they were competitive with JMU in that series, so they might not WIN but would be competitive.
Some of you do come with ignorant opinions of LU. Using some of your standards App St advocates teaching Magic and Witchcraft based on their course catalog. Does it matter on the field or court? Nope. Unless Harry Potter and his crew show up with their flying broom game

Last year was indeed a step back in football. Pretty tough schedule, new coach, and a ton of season ending injuries - 2 to All-Americans. We have been consistently in the top 25 several years before that.

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I've long thought that the MAC would be a better fit for JMU - if for no other reason than it is a hell of a lot more stable than the Sun Belt. I have no idea why they would even consider this dumpster fire over a MAC invite.

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I think Liberty is a poor fit and why they will likely be turned down by the Sunbelt.

(04-01-2013 12:37 PM)redfan Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I think Liberty is a poor fit and why they will likely be turned down by the Sunbelt.

Yea, and that is what caused the report of Liberty and JMU being on the top of the SBC's list to come out.

(04-01-2013 12:22 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I've long thought that the MAC would be a better fit for JMU - if for no other reason than it is a hell of a lot more stable than the Sun Belt. I have no idea why they would even consider this dumpster fire over a MAC invite.

Pantherville - I really think it can be summed up in two words -
App State.

(04-01-2013 12:37 PM)redfan Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I think Liberty is a poor fit and why they will likely be turned down by the Sunbelt.

Believe the SB presidents would be afraid they would be looked at with a very critical eye if they even thought about adding LU.

(04-01-2013 12:43 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 12:37 PM)redfan Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I think Liberty is a poor fit and why they will likely be turned down by the Sunbelt.

Believe the SB presidents would be afraid they would be looked at with a very critical eye if they even thought about adding LU.

neither jmu or liberty add anything to the conference. neither are very substantial in sports or academics..I say dont add either.

(04-01-2013 01:09 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 12:43 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 12:37 PM)redfan Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 10:23 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU us a great school, but not a good fit for the Sunbelt. While JMU us located in VA they primarily recruit students from the Northeast. If you look at the demographics you'll see probably 80% if their students not from VA are from New Jeresy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and New York.

http://www.jmu.edu/instresrch/statsum/20...3toc.shtml

This is not a JMU vs. Liberty thread, so please don't turn it into that. Just pointing out why I think their a poor fit and why they'll likely turn down an invite. If you read their boards most really want to go FBS, but not to the Sunbelt.

I think Liberty is a poor fit and why they will likely be turned down by the Sunbelt.

Believe the SB presidents would be afraid they would be looked at with a very critical eye if they even thought about adding LU.

neither jmu or liberty add anything to the conference. neither are very substantial in sports or academics..I say dont add either.

lol. JMU would instantly be the strongest academic school in the SBC. Always would have been, even prior to realignment.

Lol... I read the first post and I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread..... Just lol.

(04-01-2013 01:21 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Lol... I read the first post and I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread..... Just lol.

There is always the comedic value.

(04-01-2013 01:20 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  lol. JMU would instantly be the strongest academic school in the SBC. Always would have been, even prior to realignment.

You'd be on par with App State.

(04-01-2013 02:09 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 01:21 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Lol... I read the first post and I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread..... Just lol.

There is always the comedic value.

Now I KNOW that's an April Fool's joke. No comedic value here.