(03-14-2013 10:26 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:14 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:06 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Saying there will be more realignment and saying it will involve a raid on the ACC are two different things. There's no way Swofford would even hint to a reporter that raid on the ACC was coming.

I imagine a couple or more said that they expected the teams to come from ACC. You're correct that Swofford wouldn't offer that up to Thamel.

Look if more expansion is going to happen what is the most vulnerable conference? In my mind it is the ACC by a mile.

Of the power conferences not called the SEC, the ACC is the only one without a GOR, the ACC makes the least $ per team and it is the only one of the 5 without a bowl tie-in with the champion of another power conference.

Does any of that matter to ACC fans on this board? Of course not.

Jesus could come down from heaven, pronounce the end of the ACC from the top of Mt Zion, then fly over to North America and destroy every ACC campus with a holy laser gun and there would be Lousville & Pitt fans posting here that the Big 12 is still more vulnerable than the ACC because Kansas wants to be in the B1G.

That may happen we have a Jesuit Pope now.

The SEC does not have a GOR, the only reason the PAC 12 and Big Ten have one is because of their network.

The actual difference in money per team remains to be seen.


The conference champions will rarely ever face each other in those bowls because of the playoffs.

(03-14-2013 10:32 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The SEC does not have a GOR, the only reason the PAC 12 and Big Ten have one is because of their network.

The actual difference in money per team remains to be seen.


The conference champions will rarely ever face each other in those bowls because of the playoffs.

I know the SEC doesn't have a GOR...yet...but the word is they will have one as part of their TV Network. That is par for the course.

As for the "difference in money", you have to really be desperate to be clinging to the false hope that the ACC will move ahead of the Big 12 in revenue. Now.....picture the Big 12 with 4 ACC football schools. THAT conference would make a heck of a lot more $ per team than the current Big 12 or ACC. That is why the ACC is doomed.

(03-14-2013 10:26 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:14 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:06 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Saying there will be more realignment and saying it will involve a raid on the ACC are two different things. There's no way Swofford would even hint to a reporter that raid on the ACC was coming.

I imagine a couple or more said that they expected the teams to come from ACC. You're correct that Swofford wouldn't offer that up to Thamel.

Look if more expansion is going to happen what is the most vulnerable conference? In my mind it is the ACC by a mile.

Of the power conferences not called the SEC, the ACC is the only one without a GOR, the ACC makes the least $ per team and it is the only one of the 5 without a bowl tie-in with the champion of another power conference.

Does any of that matter to ACC fans on this board? Of course not.

Jesus could come down from heaven, pronounce the end of the ACC from the top of Mt Zion, then fly over to North America and destroy every ACC campus with a holy laser gun and there would be Lousville & Pitt fans posting here that the Big 12 is still more vulnerable than the ACC because Kansas wants to be in the B1G.

And if you think the Big 12 champ and the SEC champ will face each other in the Sugar Bowl then I have a bridge to sell you. The SEC champ will always be in the playoffs. The Big 12 champ may not be. So keep touting your bowl tie-in for a matchup that won't happen.

As for the money, yes right now the ACC doesn't make as much, but that gap is closing very fast. As a matter of fact, the ACC will eventually surpass the Big 12. Why you ask? Because the Big 12 has maximized their value. The ACC has not and has plenty of room to grow.

(03-14-2013 02:00 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Tulane, Memphis, SMU, and Houston back to CUSA. A CUSA-24 emerges with four division of six teams.

Just go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What part of we would have to want (and we don't) to be apart of the craptastic pile of donkey doo that CUSA is now and pile on 10 more teams.

Give it a rest.

You gotta love this board.

This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago. hahahaha

(03-14-2013 10:28 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:25 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  If someone other than the Big XII wants to take FSU, then ok. But otherwise there is little motivation or desire for any of the other ACC schools to move.

So....why do you think Thamel is lying?

Repeating mindless rumors to generate clicks isn't the same thing as lying. Doesn't make it any more valid.

(03-14-2013 10:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  You gotta love this board.

This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago. hahahaha

BTW, the ACC will never be the exclusive league for the MSG...It will either be the C7 or it will be shared with the ACC and maybe the B1G.

(03-14-2013 10:26 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:14 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:06 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Saying there will be more realignment and saying it will involve a raid on the ACC are two different things. There's no way Swofford would even hint to a reporter that raid on the ACC was coming.

I imagine a couple or more said that they expected the teams to come from ACC. You're correct that Swofford wouldn't offer that up to Thamel.

Look if more expansion is going to happen what is the most vulnerable conference? In my mind it is the ACC by a mile.

Of the 5 power conferences not called the SEC, the ACC is the only one without a GOR, the ACC makes the least $ per team and it is the only one of the 5 without a bowl tie-in with the champion of another power conference.

Does any of that matter to ACC fans on this board? Of course not.

Jesus could come down from heaven, pronounce the end of the ACC from the top of Mt Zion, then fly over to North America and destroy every ACC campus with a holy laser gun and there would be Lousville & Pitt fans posting here that the Big 12 is still more vulnerable than the ACC because Kansas wants to be in the B1G.

funny how the fans of schools of the most vulnerable conference pray the ACC gets picked apart. Just so their conference can survive. The only way the big12-2 makes it long term is for the ACC to be picked apart. The teams in the ACC will get 19 to 20 million a year. It's not worth the extra million to join the big 12, it's to far too travel. When Texas gets a wild hair up it's butt to leave and they will. The rest of the big 12 will be scrambling to find a home.

Some of the smaller schools will be left behind, with no home maybe they can join CUSA or the MWC.

The GOR isn't ironclad. Texas will find a loophole,they'll leave the big12 behind like a bad date.

(03-14-2013 10:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  You gotta love this board.

This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago. hahahaha

There are too many role players on this board.

(03-14-2013 10:56 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 10:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  You gotta love this board.

This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago. hahahaha

There are too many role players on this board.

Yeah it's getting hard to pick a thread where you can have a discussion that isn't interrupted by 2 pages of "nanny nanny boo boo" between some of them. I'm missing a lot of our serious posters these days. It's fun to hear perspectives but way too bothersome to wade through the rest of it to find those perspectives. Some real news is needed soon to refocus the board.

(03-14-2013 11:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yeah it's getting hard to pick a thread where you can have a discussion that isn't interrupted by 2 pages of "nanny nanny boo boo" between some of them. I'm missing a lot of our serious posters these days. It's fun to hear perspectives but way too bothersome to wade through the rest of it to find those perspectives. Some real news is needed soon to refocus the board.

If you treat this board as a drinking game and do a shot every time a Georgetown fan says "quite frankly", you'll be attending meetings before long.

(03-14-2013 01:14 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  He's got it wrong. Florida and Georgia to the B1G.

ROFLMAO!!!

"The GOR isn't ironclad. Texas will find a loophole,they'll leave the big12 behind like a bad date."

Thank God for Louisville fans who know more about GORs, without actually having seen the contracts, than the commissioners, lawyers, ADs and television network partners of the B1G, The Pac 12 and the Big 12

"This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago."

Like it or not, where the ACC plays its basketball tournament is nowhere near as important as Thamel reporting that the commissioners of the 5 power conferences have all privately acknowledged that realignment is far from over. To paraphrase Nick Saban, you are worried about mouse s**t and there is elephant s**t all over the room.

What board is this anyway?!?

(03-14-2013 11:23 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-14-2013 11:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yeah it's getting hard to pick a thread where you can have a discussion that isn't interrupted by 2 pages of "nanny nanny boo boo" between some of them. I'm missing a lot of our serious posters these days. It's fun to hear perspectives but way too bothersome to wade through the rest of it to find those perspectives. Some real news is needed soon to refocus the board.

If you treat this board as a drinking game and do a shot every time a Georgetown fan says "quite frankly", you'll be attending meetings before long.

If the bottle is a good single malt scotch I'm game.

(03-14-2013 11:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If the bottle is a good single malt scotch I'm game.

Yeh....meetings are for quitters...

(03-14-2013 11:26 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  "The GOR isn't ironclad. Texas will find a loophole,they'll leave the big12 behind like a bad date."

Thank God for Louisville fans who know more about GORs, without actually having seen the contracts, than the commissioners, lawyers, ADs and television network partners of the B1G, The Pac 12 and the Big 12

"This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago."

Like it or not, where the ACC plays its basketball tournament is nowhere near as important as Thamel reporting that the commissioners of the 5 power conferences have all privately acknowledged that realignment is far from over. To paraphrase Nick Saban, you are worried about mouse s**t and there is elephant s**t all over the room.

What board is this anyway?!?

You are doing it wrong if you quote an SEC coach and you skip Les Miles.

(03-14-2013 11:26 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  "The GOR isn't ironclad. Texas will find a loophole,they'll leave the big12 behind like a bad date."

Thank God for Louisville fans who know more about GORs, without actually having seen the contracts, than the commissioners, lawyers, ADs and television network partners of the B1G, The Pac 12 and the Big 12

"This thread was about the ACC moving its tournament to MSG. That conversation stopped 50 posts ago."

Like it or not, where the ACC plays its basketball tournament is nowhere near as important as Thamel reporting that the commissioners of the 5 power conferences have all privately acknowledged that realignment is far from over. To paraphrase Nick Saban, you are worried about mouse s**t and there is elephant s**t all over the room.

What board is this anyway?!?

No, GOR is ironclad for everyone except for when horn needs to bolt it will vaporize

Big 12 is a non-factor to ACC schools except to schedule a few games with each year. Not for leaving to go to.

Personally, as a Cincinnati fan living in the midwest or Cincinnati area and member of the Big East since 2005, I could really care less about who gets MSG or about playing in MSG. The first year, Cincinnati was so bad, it didn't even make the top 12 to have a chance to play at MSG. If I had a choice, and was commish for a day, I would allow each team the opportunity to host the confernence tourney allowing for equal distribution ticket revenues and city exposure rather than continuing in New York City. It's just better for the conference.