Actually, we'd be 31-2 because we have 30 regular season games and then 3 C-USA tourney games to play in the championship. However, other than that I still stand by everything I posted.

Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

cuseroc Wrote:Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

I'm more than relaxed. I know my team is cruising for a great seed in the NCAA.

It's damn near impossible for us to fall out of the #1 seed if we win out. The only team behind us that would have a remote chance to overtake us would be Texas (because they gave us one of our two losses) and even if they win out they might not jump us because of the Oklahoma State loss they incrred last week. And on top of that we'd most likely jump Villanova and/or UConn because it's impossible for both of them to win out.

It is ABSOLUTLEY impossible for us to fall past a #2 seed if we win out. Impossible.

You are absurd.

By the way, I think we've got about a 50% shot of winning out. If we do then we'll get see who is correct about this hypothetical situation. If we lose one more game I think we'll most likely end up as a #2 seed, but I still think it's possible for us to lose the C-USA championship game and keep a #1 seed.

Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

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cuseroc Wrote:Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

I'm more than relaxed. I know my team is cruising for a great seed in the NCAA.

It's damn near impossible for us to fall out of the #1 seed if we win out. The only team behind us that would have a remote chance to overtake us would be Texas (because they gave us one of our two losses) and even if they win out they might not jump us because of the Oklahoma State loss they incrred last week. And on top of that we'd most likely jump Villanova and/or UConn because it's impossible for both of them to win out.

It is ABSOLUTLEY impossible for us to fall past a #2 seed if we win out. Impossible.

You are absurd.

I am absurd because your a memphis fan and you cant take the fact that I dont think memphis is as good as you do.

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cuseroc Wrote:Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

I'm more than relaxed. I know my team is cruising for a great seed in the NCAA.

It's damn near impossible for us to fall out of the #1 seed if we win out. The only team behind us that would have a remote chance to overtake us would be Texas (because they gave us one of our two losses) and even if they win out they might not jump us because of the Oklahoma State loss they incrred last week. And on top of that we'd most likely jump Villanova and/or UConn because it's impossible for both of them to win out.

It is ABSOLUTLEY impossible for us to fall past a #2 seed if we win out. Impossible.

You are absurd.

I am absurd because your a memphis fan and you cant take the fact that I dont think memphis is as good as you do.

No, as I've said I have no problem with you saying that Memphis doesn't deserve a #1 seed. My problem was with your comments that Memphis will be "maybe a #3 seed if they win out". That is impossible. Simply impossible.

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

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bitcruncher Wrote:

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

The problem with this is that UNLV and Umass played in conferences that were much better than the present cusa.

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cuseroc Wrote:Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

I'm more than relaxed. I know my team is cruising for a great seed in the NCAA.

It's damn near impossible for us to fall out of the #1 seed if we win out. The only team behind us that would have a remote chance to overtake us would be Texas (because they gave us one of our two losses) and even if they win out they might not jump us because of the Oklahoma State loss they incrred last week. And on top of that we'd most likely jump Villanova and/or UConn because it's impossible for both of them to win out.

It is ABSOLUTLEY impossible for us to fall past a #2 seed if we win out. Impossible.

You are absurd.

I am absurd because your a memphis fan and you cant take the fact that I dont think memphis is as good as you do.

No, as I've said I have no problem with you saying that Memphis doesn't deserve a #1 seed. My problem was with your comments that Memphis will be "maybe a #3 seed if they win out". That is impossible. Simply impossible.

Its not impossible, memphis plays in a really really bad conference.



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2 Big East 0.5680 0.5556 2 16
3 Atlantic Coast 0.5639 0.5478 4 12
4 Southeastern 0.5606 0.5500 3 12
5 Missouri Valley 0.5481 0.5428 5 10
6 Big 12 0.5439 0.5366 6 12
7 Pacific-10 0.5355 0.5300 7 10
8 Western Athletic 0.5236 0.5239 8 9
9 Colonial Athletic 0.5231 0.5178 9 12
10 Mountain West 0.5180 0.5116 11 9
11 Atlantic 10 0.5130 0.5124 10 14
12 Metro Atlantic Athletic 0.5049 0.5051 13 10
13 West Coast 0.5008 0.5084 12 8
14 Horizon League 0.4997 0.5023 14 9
15 Mid-American 0.4992 0.4979 16 12
16 Big Sky 0.4973 0.4888 18 8
17 Conference USA 0.4973 0.5004 15 12
18 Sun Belt 0.4940 0.4963 17 11
19 Big South 0.4891 0.4886 19 9
20 Ohio Valley 0.4801 0.4842 20 11
21 Southland 0.4773 0.4799 21 11
22 Patriot League 0.4745 0.4789 22 8
23 Southern 0.4724 0.4751 23 11
24 Big West 0.4658 0.4621 28 8
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Down 1 From Last Week 26 Ivy League 0.4649 0.4705 8
27 America East 0.4597 0.4703 25 9
28 Mid-Continent 0.4554 0.4662 27 9
29 Atlantic Sun 0.4532 0.4545 32 11
30 Mid-Eastern 0.4403 0.4586 30 11
31 Southwestern Athletic 0.4395 0.4563 31 10
32 Independents

cuseroc Wrote:

3601 Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

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cuseroc Wrote:Relax, and dont go postal on us. If its a possibility, then its not absurd. And its possible that memphis could fall to a 3 seed, even if you win out in a week cusa. Because there are a few other really good teams that are winning in much better conferences that could bypass memphis. If they keep winning and memphis keeps winning, its a possibilty. Time will tell, but I dont think memphis has any hopes of a number 1 seed. I think its absurd for you to even think that.

I'm more than relaxed. I know my team is cruising for a great seed in the NCAA.

It's damn near impossible for us to fall out of the #1 seed if we win out. The only team behind us that would have a remote chance to overtake us would be Texas (because they gave us one of our two losses) and even if they win out they might not jump us because of the Oklahoma State loss they incrred last week. And on top of that we'd most likely jump Villanova and/or UConn because it's impossible for both of them to win out.

It is ABSOLUTLEY impossible for us to fall past a #2 seed if we win out. Impossible.

You are absurd.

I am absurd because your a memphis fan and you cant take the fact that I dont think memphis is as good as you do.

No, as I've said I have no problem with you saying that Memphis doesn't deserve a #1 seed. My problem was with your comments that Memphis will be "maybe a #3 seed if they win out". That is impossible. Simply impossible.

Its not impossible, memphis plays in one of the worst conferences that there is. please.

Impossible. Wait and see. Even if we lose once we won't fall below #3.

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

The problem with this is that UNLV and Umass played in conferences that were much better than the present cusa.

The A-10 was better. UNLV played in the WCC when they went to the Final Four. The WCC was NOT better than the present C-USA. The WCC is the confernce that Gonzaga is in and Gonzaga wasn't worth a damn back then.

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cuseroc Wrote:

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

The problem with this is that UNLV and Umass played in conferences that were much better than the present cusa.

The A-10 was better. UNLV played in the WCC when they went to the Final Four. The WCC was NOT better than the present C-USA. The WCC is the confernce that Gonzaga is in and Gonzaga wasn't worth a damn back then.

The WCC also had loyola Marymount back then as well as UNLV. Loyola mary mount back then for about 3 years was every bit as good as Gonzaga is right now. That would make 2 very good teams in that conference. WCC was much better than the current Cusa .

cuseroc Wrote:

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bitcruncher Wrote:

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

The problem with this is that UNLV and Umass played in conferences that were much better than the present cusa.

The A-10 was better. UNLV played in the WCC when they went to the Final Four. The WCC was NOT better than the present C-USA. The WCC is the confernce that Gonzaga is in and Gonzaga wasn't worth a damn back then.

The WCC also had loyola Marymount back then as well as UNLV. Loyola mary mount back then for about 3 years was every bit as good as Gonzaga is right now. That would make 2 very good teams in that conference. WCC was much better than the current Cusa .

Actually, I might be wrong about the WCC. I don't think UNLV and LMU were in the same confernce. UNLV may have been in the WAC. I'm not positive.

Anyway, you win. C-USA sucks. But we don't and we'll still be no worse than a 2 seed if we win out and we still won't be any worse than a 3 seed if we don't lose more than on more game. See you in March.

One last parting shot. We are 2-0 against the vaunted Big East confernce this year. Both games were on the road. We would have been 3-0 but somebody ducked us.

3601 Wrote:One last parting shot. We are 2-0 against the vaunted Big East confernce this year. Both games were on the road. We would have been 3-0 but somebody ducked us.

You beat Cincy, when they were not playing too well. And you beat a very bad providence. Syracuse also beat Cincy, blew them out. Cincy recently blew Cuse out at the Dome. I think Cincy would beat Memphis right now. They are a much improved and very dangerous team. You would lose to Uconn, villanova, Pitt, for sure. The next 3 would be a tossup. But you can count on having at least 5 or 6 losses right now, if you were playing in the BE. i would love for memphis to meet up with a 9th seed Cincy or Cuse in the tourney. After getting a chance to watch Memphis for the first time in 2 months last night, I like our chances. Not saying we would win, but I would certainly like our chances.

Actually, you are ALL wrong. UNLV back then played in the Big West Conference. New Mexico State was the only other team in that conference that was decent (kinda like UAB in current C-USA).

Big West Conference back then:

San Jose State
Fresno State
Utah State
Cal State-Long Beach (Now Long Beach State)
Nevada-Las Vegas
Pacific
New Mexico State
Cal State-Fullerton

c'mon, I put some fact on the board (a first) and I get nothing?