(03-05-2013 06:43 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 06:23 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  See you in few years.

Doubtful. For all that stuff ERC posted you are still the poorest school in CUSA and have one of the worst fanbases despite a good amount of success. The problem is no one cares, not even your own fans. This isn't about the past this is about the future and where programs will be in 10, 20, 30+ years.

When you bring up all these past accomplishment and your facility and support still look about the same as you did 25 years ago all it screams is you've maxed out and will never be anything more, and there are certainly no assurances you will even be what you were continuing to run on a shoestring budget in the future as money driven as athletics is becoming.

You were just 0-12 this year in football, maybe you think it was a fluke, so did Marshall for a long time when they dropped but it never really got back. I'd much rather align with schools with a higher level of commitment and resources and potential at this point. You guys failed to build any foundation that was anymore substantial than App State, which is your own fault and ERC I absoulutly wouldn't trade oru 50k fans for what we've built here moving forward for what you got.

1. Most of the schools coming in to CUSA have lower operating budgets than USM does. Those will get a nice bump from our conference money. USM itself is working on increasing its revenue, but I am not going to state anything here that I can't publicly verify.

2. You are going to have to quantify "one of the worst fanbases" because we just averaged 25,741 during an 0-12 season at a school with ~12,000 total undergraduates.

3. The lie in your "no one cares..." statement is the fact that you keep posting about it over and over and over...

4. Sure. Running off our past athletic director and university president and hiring new ones who are at least oriented toward change has nothing to do with our future.

5. I guess those end zone suites, baseball suites, locker room upgrades, and new scoreboards we have are just in the collective imaginations of USM fans.

6. When you only have nine losing seasons in your 96 season history, you tend to lean toward believing you will win more than you lose every season. But nothing in life is certain.

7. Since when did commitment equate only to money? You can carry this logical fallacy to an extreme. If Southern Miss has a 27-11 all time record against you in football, does that mean that ECU doesn't have enough commitment to football? Or maybe you are insinuating that money spent is more important than wins and losses on the field?

8. Potential is as much a measure of commitment as it is one of resources. See no. 7 above.

9. Please quantify the statement about nothing more substantial than Appalachian State. At the very least give me another shot out pointing out a logical fallacy.

Quote:Well whos fault is this?? Your Ad has acted like a street walker for years. Attempting to whore himself out for a "Football only" membership. Well guess what........ YOU GOT IT!
What will you do to salvage your other sports???? UC and UCONN dont want em. And your not gonna leave em in cusa either.
Several meetings of your new group have come and gone and no action has been taken for full membership. Before you insult people who have likely done far more in terms of donations and tickets to support their programs than you have look in the mirror. Your upside aint exactly sky high right now.

Yet there isn't a single ECU fan that would support going back to CUSA, so what's that say.

(03-05-2013 07:05 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Yet there isn't a single ECU fan that would support going back to CUSA, so what's that say.

It says you are flat out delusional if you think you are speaking for every single ECU fan out there.

(03-05-2013 07:05 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Yet there isn't a single ECU fan that would support going back to CUSA, so what's that say.

And theres not a single school that would support your asses coming back.

(03-05-2013 07:06 PM)Freshy Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 07:05 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Yet there isn't a single ECU fan that would support going back to CUSA, so what's that say.

It says you are flat out delusional if you think you are speaking for every single ECU fan out there.

I challenge you to find one on this board, and this is probably the most CUSA sympathetic bunch there is in our fanbase. Maybe one of them will throw you a bone.

(03-05-2013 07:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 07:06 PM)Freshy Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 07:05 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Yet there isn't a single ECU fan that would support going back to CUSA, so what's that say.

It says you are flat out delusional if you think you are speaking for every single ECU fan out there.

I challenge you to find one on this board, and this is probably the most CUSA sympathetic bunch there is in our fanbase. Maybe one of them will throw you a bone.

You should stop at just being made to look stupid and childish dude.

Well, I'd talk about coming back to CUSA. But, I don't claim to rep all Tiger fans.

(03-05-2013 06:43 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 06:23 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  See you in few years.

I don't see it. I think their are more attractive candidates. For all that stuff ERC posted you are still the poorest school in CUSA and have one of the worst fanbases even despite a good amount of success. Not exactly an attractive combination. This realignment isn't about the past or games you beat us in in the 50's he is sighting like it matters today, this is about the future and where programs will be in 10, 20, 30+ years. The problem is no one cares, not even your own fans.

When you bring up all these past accomplishment and your facility and support still look about the same as you did 25 years ago all it screams is you've maxed out and will never be anything more, and there are certainly no assurances you will even be what you were continuing to run on a shoestring budget in the future as money driven as athletics is becoming if ERC really wants to talk about money.

You were just 0-12 this year in football, maybe you think it was a fluke, so did Marshall for a long time when they dropped but it never really got back. I'd much rather align with schools with a higher level of commitment and resources and potential at this point. You guys failed to build any foundation that was anymore substantial than App State, which is your own fault and ERC I absolutely wouldn't trade our 50k fans for what we've built here moving forward for what you got.

You haven't seen a lot.

You and your NBE superfan buddies have been wrong at every turn.

I actually think you're smarter than that, but you're so busy trying to be insulting, you wind up making yourself look ridiculous.

You make a good and valid point regarding our budget, but then you say something monumentally stupid by saying we have one of the worst fanbases. I dare say in C-USA that only ECU surpasses USM in terms of market penetration, unless you're trying to use the market size argument, because we all know that's been shot to hell.

I get it in a way, you're attacked a lot, so you're natural response is to be condescending and insulting, but I'd really like to believe you're better than that.

(03-05-2013 06:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 06:04 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 04:04 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  it makes no sense to pay to join a league that won't be any better than the league we have.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro, but that's not true. As bad as you think this deal or new conference will be, you sure don't see anyone clamering to go back to CUSA. You only see programs like yourself hiring people to help them get out. Good lucky helping those programs you added learn how to ride without training wheels, glad it's you and not us but then again wouldn't shock me if a couple of them beat your 0-12 boys. Can't talk much about your basketball team, they are good. Too bad like your football though no one cares to show up and see them which is exactly why you are still where you are.

Hey Jonesing, a few questions...

When was the last time your football was ranked at the end of the year?
When was the last time your basketball team went to the NCAA's?
When was the last time your baseball went to Omaha?
If ECU won 15 straight games in football against USM, would they be ahead in the overall series?
How does it feel to lose ten in a row in basketball to USM? I know, I know,,,,,if, if, if,,,,,but,but,but,,,,,woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Jonesing, ECU is the biggest wannabe ever. Your fans talk a big game, but your teams don't deliver.

Am I just missing where Jonesing answered those questions?

(03-05-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Not bad considering those three had the most to lose. Without the BCS label, they're just like the rest of us nonAQ's. It will buy time and money until something better comes especially for UConn.

At least they got a few years in the sun. UConn has been FBS since 2000, USF has been FBS since 2001 and UC was 28-33 in old C-USA and never finished a season ranked in their history before being in the Big East.

Quote:I get it in a way, you're attacked a lot, so you're natural response is to be condescending and insulting, but I'd really like to believe you're better than that.

Dude, you can't open this board up with out there being 3 or 4 threads a day started on how stupid the schools are that left, or how bad they will regret it etc. Most all of them come from USM fans or the Tulsa turd. Just gets old.

(03-05-2013 07:49 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

Quote:I get it in a way, you're attacked a lot, so you're natural response is to be condescending and insulting, but I'd really like to believe you're better than that.

Dude, you can't open this board up with out there being 3 or 4 threads a day started on how stupid the schools are that left, or how bad they will regret it etc. Most all of them come from USM fans or the Tulsa turd. Just gets old.

Can't disagree with that.

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