(02-14-2013 08:51 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 08:47 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 04:31 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Why do so many seem so convinced that conference realignment is over?

Because there's equally as much evidence that it's over as there is that it's continuing -- which is to say, none.

The guys claiming it's ongoing are mostly bloggers looking for page hits with batting averages south of Juan Castro.

good point...but with the spectre of B1G network and sucking up untapped markets if I'm a betting man, I bet alignment is not finished. With them moving into RU/Maryland areas they are already "out east" and now they see virgin land ahead (ie North Carolina, Virginia, Atlanta market, etc)

Georgia Tech and UVA sound like the strongest Big Ten targets; however, they should be looking at Syracuse and UConn because those schools fit into their eastern wing. The Big Ten Network will force them into a new market which is why UVA and Georgia Tech could be next in line.

I really wish on some level realignment would end and we could go back to talking about games instead of TV deals and crazy twitter rumors.

I still want to know the final details of the NBC TV deal. The potential for Cincinnati to be a flagship brand featured on NBC and their family of networks would be a plus in a situation that is far from ideal.

Like Boise State....I wonder if Cincinnati ever plays a down of football against Tulane and ECU?

(02-14-2013 08:47 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 04:31 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Why do so many seem so convinced that conference realignment is over?

Because there's equally as much evidence that it's over as there is that it's continuing -- which is to say, none.

The guys claiming it's ongoing are mostly bloggers looking for page hits with batting averages south of Juan Castro.

You mean people like E. Gordon Gee?

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...going.html

(02-14-2013 09:38 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 08:47 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 04:31 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Why do so many seem so convinced that conference realignment is over?

Because there's equally as much evidence that it's over as there is that it's continuing -- which is to say, none.

The guys claiming it's ongoing are mostly bloggers looking for page hits with batting averages south of Juan Castro.

You mean people like E. Gordon Gee?

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...going.html

It's not even just him, there was an article last week with direct quotes from athletic directors/coaches of 4 B1G schools.

(02-14-2013 09:26 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Georgia Tech and UVA sound like the strongest Big Ten targets; however, they should be looking at Syracuse and UConn because those schools fit into their eastern wing. The Big Ten Network will force them into a new market which is why UVA and Georgia Tech could be next in line.

I highly doubt the Big Ten would look toward UConn. I doubt the Big Ten looks toward Syracuse given the addition of Rutgers too. The Big Ten is trying to get into large, growing markets. That means moving south along the east coast, not north.

I think UNC and Duke make the next most sense after GT and Virginia. They're excellent brands and I think losing those two schools would destroy the ACC. That would mean the Big Ten would pretty much control the midwest and the east coast down to NC.

(02-13-2013 05:40 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 05:28 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  I don't see Cronin bailing on his hometown school...

He did it once already, and I wouldn't blame him for doing it again if we get stuck with this kind of deal, in a crap conference. He could go to just about any major program and have at least 2-3x the resources he's going to have here.

This kind of piss poor revenue is going to impact the coaches we can hire, big time. Think of this.....the salary for Cronin and Tubs combine is going to half (strictly looking at base salary, no advertising incentives) of the revenue we'd get from this TV deal. Anyway you cut it, this is simply not acceptable.

He left to gain more experience, in order to become a HC. He didn't leave due to some issue with the University.

Sources: ESPN has one week to act
Updated: February 15, 2013, 8:51 PM ET
By Brett McMurphy | ESPN

ESPN has until Thursday to match NBC Sports Network's seven-year, $20-$23 million per year offer to retain the Big East's media rights, league sources told ESPN.

The Big East received an official offer from NBC Sports Network that will extend both the football and men's basketball media rights through the 2019-20 academic year. The amount per year varies based on any future membership changes for the Big East, sources said.

ESPN, the league's rights holder, has until Thursday to match NBC Sports Network's offer to keep the Big East's media rights. ESPN has had the Big East's basketball media rights since the conference was formed in 1979.

ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz declined comment Friday night.

The Big East's basketball media-rights deal with ESPN and CBS expires after the 2012-13 academic year, while the football deal with ESPN expires after 2013-14.

The seven-year deal would be worth between a total of $140 million to $161 million, or about $2 million per school per year. In 2011, the Big East turned down a nine-year deal from ESPN worth $1.17 billion, an average of $130 million annually. Since then, 16 schools have announced they were leaving the conference.

That proposed 2011 ESPN deal, voted down by the league's presidents, would have earned full members $13.8 million a year and non-football members $2.43 million a year.

In 2014, the Big East will be left with a 10-member conference consisting of UConn, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, South Florida, SMU, Temple, Tulane and UCF. East Carolina, originally signed as a football-only member, is expected to be made a full member in 2014, Big East commissioner Mike Aresco has said.

In 2015, Navy is scheduled to join the Big East as a football-only member. Tulsa and UMass are the leading candidates to become the Big East's 12th member if the league decides to expand, sources have told ESPN.

The Big East's current six-year media-rights deal is worth $3.12 million annually for each of the eight full members and $1.5 million annually for each of the remaining non-football members.

The Big East's new $2 million per team deal is less than what the seven departing Catholic schools -- DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova -- are projected to earn when they form their own league, sources told ESPN. Fox Sports is closing on a deal with the Catholic schools worth about $3 million for each, sources said.

The new league, yet to be formed, is expected to have 12-to-14 members. The most likely candidates to join the Catholic schools, sources have told ESPN, are Butler, Xavier, Creighton, Dayton, Saint Louis, Richmond and VCU.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...ources-say

Fire up the internets, call your cable operator and demand ESPN3, and get ready for some Wednesday night football:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...-East.aspx

Quote:ESPN has agreed to match NBC's offer for the Big East, agreeing to pay more than $20M per year for a six-year package, according to several well-placed sources. The two sides still are trying to work out various details about how many games ESPN will carry and where they will air. Sources said the Big East will have to take ESPN's offer to conference presidents, who will have to vote to approve the deal. No formal announcement is expected today. ESPN released a statement this afternoon saying, "Discussions with the Big East are ongoing." The Big East Conference also acknowledged that discussions are continuing.

NBC late last week agreed to a deal that would put Big East football and basketball games primarily on NBC Sports Network, with the ability to move some games to NBC's broadcast network. ESPN had to decide whether to match that deal by today. It matched the rights fee but is not likely to put any games on its broadcast channel, ABC. Sources say ESPN is likely to sublicense a significant amount of games to other networks, such as Fox Sports, which is launching Fox Sports 1 this summer.

(02-21-2013 04:52 PM)#41 Wrote:  Fire up the internets, call your cable operator and demand ESPN3, and get ready for some Wednesday night football:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...-East.aspx

Quote:ESPN has agreed to match NBC's offer for the Big East, agreeing to pay more than $20M per year for a six-year package, according to several well-placed sources. The two sides still are trying to work out various details about how many games ESPN will carry and where they will air. Sources said the Big East will have to take ESPN's offer to conference presidents, who will have to vote to approve the deal. No formal announcement is expected today. ESPN released a statement this afternoon saying, "Discussions with the Big East are ongoing." The Big East Conference also acknowledged that discussions are continuing.

NBC late last week agreed to a deal that would put Big East football and basketball games primarily on NBC Sports Network, with the ability to move some games to NBC's broadcast network. ESPN had to decide whether to match that deal by today. It matched the rights fee but is not likely to put any games on its broadcast channel, ABC. Sources say ESPN is likely to sublicense a significant amount of games to other networks, such as Fox Sports, which is launching Fox Sports 1 this summer.

I don't think this well affect us...we will be out of this dumpster fire by then (i'm hoping)

(02-21-2013 04:52 PM)#41 Wrote:  Fire up the internets, call your cable operator and demand ESPN3, and get ready for some Wednesday night football:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...-East.aspx

Quote:ESPN has agreed to match NBC's offer for the Big East, agreeing to pay more than $20M per year for a six-year package, according to several well-placed sources. The two sides still are trying to work out various details about how many games ESPN will carry and where they will air. Sources said the Big East will have to take ESPN's offer to conference presidents, who will have to vote to approve the deal. No formal announcement is expected today. ESPN released a statement this afternoon saying, "Discussions with the Big East are ongoing." The Big East Conference also acknowledged that discussions are continuing.

NBC late last week agreed to a deal that would put Big East football and basketball games primarily on NBC Sports Network, with the ability to move some games to NBC's broadcast network. ESPN had to decide whether to match that deal by today. It matched the rights fee but is not likely to put any games on its broadcast channel, ABC. Sources say ESPN is likely to sublicense a significant amount of games to other networks, such as Fox Sports, which is launching Fox Sports 1 this summer.

As I understand it the 'match' on ESPN goes beyond the dollar amount. They're also agreeing to match the exposure promised to them by NBC. That's what's baffling by this. That would have appeared to be the deal breaker from ESPN's perspective.




mc

Even if UC is not in the Big East, I would like to see the New Big East geta decent deal and go with NBC. ESPN needs some competition ASAP.

(02-14-2013 09:26 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 08:51 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 08:47 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 04:31 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Why do so many seem so convinced that conference realignment is over?

Because there's equally as much evidence that it's over as there is that it's continuing -- which is to say, none.

The guys claiming it's ongoing are mostly bloggers looking for page hits with batting averages south of Juan Castro.

good point...but with the spectre of B1G network and sucking up untapped markets if I'm a betting man, I bet alignment is not finished. With them moving into RU/Maryland areas they are already "out east" and now they see virgin land ahead (ie North Carolina, Virginia, Atlanta market, etc)

Georgia Tech and UVA sound like the strongest Big Ten targets; however, they should be looking at Syracuse and UConn because those schools fit into their eastern wing. The Big Ten Network will force them into a new market which is why UVA and Georgia Tech could be next in line.

I really wish on some level realignment would end and we could go back to talking about games instead of TV deals and crazy twitter rumors.

I still want to know the final details of the NBC TV deal. The potential for Cincinnati to be a flagship brand featured on NBC and their family of networks would be a plus in a situation that is far from ideal.

Like Boise State....I wonder if Cincinnati ever plays a down of football against Tulane and ECU?

Why would they go with UVA? VT has twice the base. If they go for Virginia they'd be fools to go after UVA.

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Big East confirms that ESPN has matched NBC Sports' offer. If I'm reading this right, it sounds like the Big East has confirmed that ESPN matched the offer not just in money, but in all facets. Official vote coming possibly as soon as Monday.

Quote:Saturday, February 23, 2013
Big East, ESPN agree to TV deal
By Brett McMurphy
ESPN

The Big East Conference confirmed Saturday that ESPN has matched a media rights deal offer, keeping the network as the league's primary rights holder.

The deal is for seven years and worth $130 million through the 2019-20 school year, league sources said. The Big East's new deal is worth less per school than its current ESPN deal and six times less than what ESPN presented two years ago.

The conference did not reveal terms of the agreement in its announcement.

The league's presidents could vote as early as Monday, when they are expected to approve the deal, sources said.

Last week, the Big East received an official offer from NBC Sports Network, but because ESPN is currently the primary rights holder, it had one week to match NBC's offer to retain the Big East's rights.

"ESPN has matched the third-party offer that the Big East Conference received, and, subject to Big East board approval, ESPN and the Big East will continue, for years to come, their long-term relationship, which began in 1980," commissioner Mike Aresco said in a statement.

ESPN also issued a statement, saying, "We look forward to continuing our relationship."

After ESPN matched the financial aspect, the Big East had to be satisfied ESPN's deal matched NBC Sports Network's offer in all facets.

In the past two years since the Big East turned down ESPN's $1.17 billion offer, the league has had 16 schools either leave or announce they were leaving.

The Big East's new deal is comparable to a new media rights deal the Mountain West signed with CBS Sports Network. Both, however, are substantially less than what the power five conferences -- Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC, Big 12 and ACC -- receive.

ESPN's deal with the Big East would include seven years for men's basketball (2013-20) and six years for football (2014-20). The deal would break down to $10 million for the 2013-14 basketball season and $20 million starting in 2014-15 for football and men's basketball, sources said.

ESPN's package includes annually broadcasting 65 football games, 150-plus basketball games, a conference football championship game and the Big East men's basketball tournament on ESPN's family of networks, sources said.

The Big East's current basketball media rights deal with ESPN and CBS expires after the 2012-13 academic year, while the football deal with ESPN will expire after the 2013-14 academic year. The new deal will "sync" both sports through the 2019-20 academic year.

Sources said CBS also will extend its men's basketball rights with the Big East, paying the league about an additional $2 million annually.

That will bring the Big East's total media rights value to about $22 million annually, starting in 2014 and, based on a 12-team league, worth about $1.8 million per school annually.

In 2011, ESPN offered a new nine-year deal to the Big East worth $1.17 billion or an average of $130 million annually. However, the Big East's presidents voted to turn down the deal that would have earned football members nearly $14 million a year.

The Big East's $10 million figure for the men's basketball season in 2013-14 is based on the seven Catholic schools remaining in the league next season, sources said. If those schools leave the Big East before next year, that figure would be reduced.

The seven Catholic basketball schools -- DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's and Villanova -- are expected to leave the Big East and form a 10- to 12-team league, but not until 2014. Fox Sports is willing to pay the seven schools as much as $3 million annually, sources said.

ESPN president John Skipper recently told SI.com that he also believes Fox Sports will get the Catholic 7 deal, but Skipper said ESPN would be interested in sub-licensing some games.

The Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12 each receive at least $20 million per school annually. The SEC is expected to exceed those figures when its new SEC Network deal is completed with ESPN in the coming weeks, sources said.

The ACC, with the addition of Notre Dame as a full member in all sports but football, is expected to earn about $19 million annually per school.

This summer, Pittsburgh and Syracuse will leave for the ACC. On July 1, 2014, Louisville (ACC), Notre Dame (ACC), Rutgers (Big Ten) and the Catholic 7 group are expected to depart, leaving the Big East as a 10-member conference consisting of: UConn, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, South Florida, SMU, Temple, Tulane and UCF.

However, even that number remains uncertain. Some league members, most notably UConn and Cincinnati, continue to lobby to join other leagues.

Cincinnati president Santa Ono recently sent each ACC president video descriptions of the Bearcats' $70 million upcoming stadium renovation and holiday cards in hopes of helping land an ACC invitation, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Tuesday.

In 2015, Navy is scheduled to join the Big East as the league's 11th school, competing as a football-only member. Tulsa and UMass are the leading candidates to become the Big East's 12th member if the league decides to expand, sources told ESPN.

ESPN's Brett McMurphy contributed to this report.

So if football schools sell off the name is this deal null? Can they reopen negotiations?

Nope. Contract is with the corporate entity. Name change doesn't matter an iota.