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RE: Big 10 Scheduling changes
(02-15-2013 01:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I think we've proven that wins don't bring fans unless they're against name brand teams. Possibly a game against Toledo early in the year when it's nice out, on a Saturday, would bring fans.

Oh, oh...now we're going up against the MAC philosophy: Schedule marquee games mid-week at night during November, per the wishes of ESPN, to get the national exposure (even if the game is on ESPNU and/or ESPN3).
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Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.
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(02-15-2013 01:54 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.

The other issue is going to be the APR requirements which will give a bowl ban if APR is under 930.

2012 APR 4yr average below 930
113 Oklahoma State University 928
114 University of Houston 926
115 University of Tulsa 925
116 University of Buffalo 923
117 New Mexico State University 918
118 University of Louisiana-Monroe 917
119 University of Louisville 911
119 UTEP 911

Per wiki

2013-14 postseason: either 930 four-year average or 940 average over most recent two years

2015-2016 postseason and beyond: 930 four-year average
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(02-15-2013 01:54 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.

Good point. Most are barely bowl eligible in the average year.
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RE: Big 10 Scheduling changes
(02-15-2013 03:23 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:54 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.

Good point. Most are barely bowl eligible in the average year.

Teams that went bowling because of 1 FCS win.
Purdue (6-6 with 1 FCS win)
Minnesota (6-6 with 1 FCS win)
Iowa St (6-6 with 1 FCS win)
NC ST (played 2 FCS teams for 7 total wins)
GT (was 6-7 with ACC champ game with 1 FCS win received eligibility approval by NCAA)
Pitt (6-6 and went 1-1 in FCS games and made it to a bowl game)

non-AQ
AF - 6-6 with 1 FCS win
CMU 6-6 with 1 FCS win
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(02-15-2013 01:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:13 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:04 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If NIU gets in a scheduling crunch and doesn't want games with Idaho or Cal Poly, I know of at least 1 non instate FCS program that would bring a huge crowd to Huskie Stadium and the game would be far more than a "tune up" for NIU. How about ND ST

They brought at least 15K fans to the FCS title game in Texas this year and would likely be able to bring that many to DeKalb with the distance being 1/2 of that going to Dallas. 05-stirthepot

There is no reason to schedule a good FCS team.

Win and its no big deal that you defeated a FCS team.

Lose and its an embarrassment even if they win the National Championship that year along with the previous year.

Which is why power conference schools don't want to play us. I would rather play NDSU than Cal Poly or Indiana State or Tennessee Martin, but I understand the rationale for not playing them.

Exactly, thank you for making my point. But scheduling a NDST or SDST who not only draw well but travel well would ensure a crowd in the 20's if not a sellout. Huskies will not get UNI because they schedule Iowa & IA ST every year, Huskies should try to schedule a game with them, they would bring a large crowd as well. Cedar falls is not far from DeKalb and they draw 14 K a game which is as good if not better than several MAC programs.
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(02-15-2013 01:36 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:33 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:10 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  ND ST has open dates this year on 9/14 & 9/21, wonder why a game wasn't scheduled?
ND ST has a OOC opening in 14 and only 1 ooc game scheduled for 15. Looks like an opportunity exists here.

It goes against current philosophy. There is a much better chance of us losing to ND ST that to a school like EIU, Tenn-Martin, etc. If we are going to lose, it has to be for big money. Hence, the games at SF and away at the big boys. If it's a game at HS, it has to be somewhat of a patsy. Even our "big" BCS game against Kansas was against perhaps the worst BCS team in the country.

Here's the philosophy:

- Scedule home games for wins
- Schedule away games for the money.

It's really pretty simple.

And we've succeeded, on those 2 points. Of course, few people want to see us play those games.

Which is why you take a risk and schedule a game against a team like NDST. They've got a rep now, are playing for their 3rd straight national championship and their fans travel well. If Huskie fans don't show up, NDST fans certainly will. The game would be a sellout or close to it.
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(02-15-2013 01:54 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.

They will schedule at least 9 games in conference and each find the 3 weakest BCS programs they can and pay them to play 1 off games. When you only need a 6-6 record to bowl, winning 3 easy OOC home games means you only have to go 3-6 in conference to bowl.
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(02-15-2013 02:15 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:54 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Not sure how half of the Big Ten will get bowl eligible if they drop FCS games from their schedules.

The other issue is going to be the APR requirements which will give a bowl ban if APR is under 930.

2012 APR 4yr average below 930
113 Oklahoma State University 928
114 University of Houston 926
115 University of Tulsa 925
116 University of Buffalo 923
117 New Mexico State University 918
118 University of Louisiana-Monroe 917
119 University of Louisville 911
119 UTEP 911

Per wiki

2013-14 postseason: either 930 four-year average or 940 average over most recent two years

2015-2016 postseason and beyond: 930 four-year average

Huskie John do you know the APR of Mac football teams?
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(02-16-2013 11:24 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:13 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:04 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If NIU gets in a scheduling crunch and doesn't want games with Idaho or Cal Poly, I know of at least 1 non instate FCS program that would bring a huge crowd to Huskie Stadium and the game would be far more than a "tune up" for NIU. How about ND ST

They brought at least 15K fans to the FCS title game in Texas this year and would likely be able to bring that many to DeKalb with the distance being 1/2 of that going to Dallas. 05-stirthepot

There is no reason to schedule a good FCS team.

Win and its no big deal that you defeated a FCS team.

Lose and its an embarrassment even if they win the National Championship that year along with the previous year.

Which is why power conference schools don't want to play us. I would rather play NDSU than Cal Poly or Indiana State or Tennessee Martin, but I understand the rationale for not playing them.

Exactly, thank you for making my point. But scheduling a NDST or SDST who not only draw well but travel well would ensure a crowd in the 20's if not a sellout. Huskies will not get UNI because they schedule Iowa & IA ST every year, Huskies should try to schedule a game with them, they would bring a large crowd as well. Cedar falls is not far from DeKalb and they draw 14 K a game which is as good if not better than several MAC programs.

Bring on those ND State Bisons....yes, they travel well. I've seen that first hand here in Dallas.
Also, change bowl qualifications: need a winning record, 7-5 to go bowling.
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(02-16-2013 07:22 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  Huskie John do you know the APR of Mac football teams?
http://collegefootball.about.com/od/theb...Scores.htm

5 University of Northern Illinois 987...UNI?!?...03-banghead
31 Miami University 967
40 University of Toledo 960
49 Western Michigan University 954
55 Bowling Green State University 951
63 Ohio University 949
74 Ball State University 946
85 Central Michigan University 941
97 Eastern Michigan University 935
97 Kent State University 935
101 University of Akron 933
116 University of Buffalo 923
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(02-16-2013 09:31 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-16-2013 07:22 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  Huskie John do you know the APR of Mac football teams?
http://collegefootball.about.com/od/theb...Scores.htm

5 University of Northern Illinois 987...UNI?!?...03-banghead
31 Miami University 967
40 University of Toledo 960
49 Western Michigan University 954
55 Bowling Green State University 951
63 Ohio University 949
74 Ball State University 946
85 Central Michigan University 941
97 Eastern Michigan University 935
97 Kent State University 935
101 University of Akron 933
116 University of Buffalo 923

Perhaps the Huskies should schedule the University of Northern Iowa. Perhaps finally sport writers will understand the differences between the 2 teams. UNI is another FCS team that draws well and Cedar Fall isn't far from DeKalb.
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CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.
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(02-18-2013 01:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.

They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.
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If Iowa doesn't block our line better, they're going to have a really hard time winning that game.
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(02-19-2013 12:02 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 01:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.

They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.

also lost their top WR, RB and #2 QB to graduation along with losing their #1 returning WR to suspension.

They are going to have a very young Offensive team.
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(02-20-2013 08:51 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:02 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 01:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.

They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.

also lost their top WR, RB and #2 QB to graduation along with losing their #1 returning WR to suspension.

They are going to have a very young Offensive team.

All right, I'm feeling a lot of HUSKIE pride right now.....I say we win both games - a close one with Iowa (first game jitters) and we pull away from the Boilermakers in the 4th qtr.
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(02-21-2013 07:52 PM)bigdhuskie Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 08:51 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:02 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 01:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.

They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.

also lost their top WR, RB and #2 QB to graduation along with losing their #1 returning WR to suspension.

They are going to have a very young Offensive team.

All right, I'm feeling a lot of HUSKIE pride right now.....I say we win both games - a close one with Iowa (first game jitters) and we pull away from the Boilermakers in the 4th qtr.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id...rs-in-2013

Purdue only returns 5 starters on ofense and while they return 8 on D, their D was good but not great. I believe the Huskies will be up by double digits at half and win by 3 td's. I can't see the Boilers scoreing much.

Iowa has 7 back on each side of the ball but losing your QB and being as thin as they are at RB (Mark Weisman, Stevenson HS grad) is their only returning RB from 12. Huskies should be favored in this matchup.
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(02-21-2013 09:17 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-21-2013 07:52 PM)bigdhuskie Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 08:51 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:02 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 01:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  CFN projects NIU losing to both Purdue and Iowa.

They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.

also lost their top WR, RB and #2 QB to graduation along with losing their #1 returning WR to suspension.

They are going to have a very young Offensive team.

All right, I'm feeling a lot of HUSKIE pride right now.....I say we win both games - a close one with Iowa (first game jitters) and we pull away from the Boilermakers in the 4th qtr.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id...rs-in-2013

Purdue only returns 5 starters on ofense and while they return 8 on D, their D was good but not great. I believe the Huskies will be up by double digits at half and win by 3 td's. I can't see the Boilers scoreing much.

Iowa has 7 back on each side of the ball but losing your QB and being as thin as they are at RB (Mark Weisman, Stevenson HS grad) is their only returning RB from 12. Huskies should be favored in this matchup.

Don't think we will be favored in the Iowa game, but the spread will be very close. Win that game and be undef. going into Purdue we will be favored. Let's not get ahead of ourselves... BEAT IOWA!
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(02-21-2013 11:58 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  
(02-21-2013 09:17 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  
(02-21-2013 07:52 PM)bigdhuskie Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 08:51 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:02 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  They are out of their minds. Purdue has a new QB & new HC. Iowa is replacing a 2 year starter at QB.

also lost their top WR, RB and #2 QB to graduation along with losing their #1 returning WR to suspension.

They are going to have a very young Offensive team.

All right, I'm feeling a lot of HUSKIE pride right now.....I say we win both games - a close one with Iowa (first game jitters) and we pull away from the Boilermakers in the 4th qtr.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id...rs-in-2013

Purdue only returns 5 starters on ofense and while they return 8 on D, their D was good but not great. I believe the Huskies will be up by double digits at half and win by 3 td's. I can't see the Boilers scoreing much.

Iowa has 7 back on each side of the ball but losing your QB and being as thin as they are at RB (Mark Weisman, Stevenson HS grad) is their only returning RB from 12. Huskies should be favored in this matchup.

Don't think we will be favored in the Iowa game, but the spread will be very close. Win that game and be undef. going into Purdue we will be favored. Let's not get ahead of ourselves... BEAT IOWA!

Huskies wont be favored in either matchup, I'd say 5 point dogs in each if I was a betting person.
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