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Why are you guys being so testy? "I'm done here" "I won't be back"

Jeez, this is a message board, not a court of law. Nobody is sworn, and nobody goes by their real name (although a number of us know each other). Lighten up.

If you know something, fine. If you are speculating, then that's also fine. The same goes when people believe or disbelieve you - don't lose sleep over it.

Breathe - relax - post.

I think it's pretty well excepted that Blaine has shown up drunk to things.
I've heard far too many stories from reliable people to think they are ALL lying.

The coaches show was the tip of the iceberg.

It's possible Oldblue1 and north beach monarch are the same poster. How often do you see people quit all at once?

Either way, if these allegations are true, I hope you really have told Selig all you know. By all means, continue posting here, as well. Don't get upset because not everyone immediately trusts the words of an anonymous internet stranger who claims to be on the inside.

If he is drunk and showing up to work drunk and it can be documented than Wood needs to address this with Blaine today. He needs to say, if you come to work drunk again your out for cause. If you do your job than we can have a discussion about next year and your legacy at ODU.

For the record, I've literally been private messaged by 7-8 different people, some that you would never even guess would admit something like this (some longggggggg time Blaine supporters too) that they have personally seen Blaine Taylor drunk around town or even at school functions. They didn't want it public so I won't tell their stories or their names, but just know that its clearly not made up and the man absolutely has a problem.

Never said he coaches drunk. No one said anything about that to me.

But showing up to the bbbq, the golf tournament fundraiser and the coaches show were all on the list.

I doubt all different people are simply just making those stories up.

(01-27-2013 11:31 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I deleted a similar post of mine from earlier, but people need to stop making such serious accusations without hard evidence. People today have been saying ODU's known about BT coaching drunk for years while doing nothing to stop it. That's NCAA-sanctions serious...and harsh sanctions at that because it'd reflect a cover-up encompassing an entire athletic department under Jarrett and Selig...and probably involving the Runte and Broderick administrations as well.

There's a difference, and a HUGE one at that, between seeing BT drunk (perfectly acceptable) and saying he coaches drunk.

Since this is the internet, and BT is considered a public figure, the legal aspects are murky (damages etc).

However, ethically speaking, anonymously making accusations against anyone without proof or legitimate sources, right or wrong, is chicken sh**.

One individual was confrontational with Smudge. Juvenile.
The other announced himself/herself as a top 40 ODAF donor. Juvenile.

BTW, how does one find their ODAF rank?

Well quite frankly, I've wanted a new coach for a while, even when we were winning, but I had never heard any of this stuff until now.

I has heard all the rumors before though, even when we were winning and everything seemed great, there were ALWAYS rumors but I think most people just ignored it.

But the coaches show was probably just the last straw for many. He wasn't jovial drunk, he was clinically depressed and out of his mind drunk. He couldn't make any sense at all. He kept rambling and repeating things and drifting out into space.

I think people overlooked the rumors and the occasional "drunk sighting" because it always seemed like he had it somewhat under control.

But when it's right there in front of your face, at a public function like this, you can't overlook it anymore.

(01-27-2013 11:58 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  BTW, how does one find their ODAF rank?

Simple. When members of ODAF are sent season ticket renewals, the ranking is printed on paper. It dictates the order of seat selection.

(01-28-2013 12:34 AM)First time Long time Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:58 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  BTW, how does one find their ODAF rank?

Simple. When members of ODAF are sent season ticket renewals, the ranking is printed on paper. It dictates the order of seat selection.

Hehe I'll look. I have been a football season ticket holder since day 1.

Thanks.

If the guy is really top 45, that's significant. But he should be communicating his distaste directly with Selig, Brandon or Broderick. I've hit two out of the three thus far. I encourage any member of ODAF to do the same.

(01-28-2013 12:42 AM)First time Long time Wrote:  If the guy is really top 45, that's significant. But he should be communicating his distaste directly with Selig, Brandon or Broderick. I've hit two out of the three thus far. I encourage any member of ODAF to do the same.

I can't speak to it.

I have met BT at a couple of events. I couldn't begin to assess whether he was under the influence or not.
He seemed fine.

Even if I felt he wasn't "quite right", I would have no way to legitimately determine if he were drunk, on meds, sleep deprived, depressed, angry, or any one of a number of other possibilities; if indeed it was not just a product of my imagination.

No; hearsay and speculation don't rise to the level of taking the extraordinary step of going to the administration - not without something concrete.

78 are you saying that there is nothing concrete and we should drop this???

(01-28-2013 12:56 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  78 are you saying that there is nothing concrete and we should drop this???

No, If you think BT is drunk, and you feel like you need to report it, then that is on you.

I was just saying that just because I am an ODAF member, I am not going to address it with the administration, based on hearsay and speculation.

Did you actually watch the ENTIRE video??

Nothing about that is hearsay or speculation. You can watch the proof right in front of your very own eyes.

(01-28-2013 01:06 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Did you actually watch the ENTIRE video??

Nothing about that is hearsay or speculation. You can watch the proof right in front of your very own eyes.

Yes.
As I stated; anomalous behavior could be the result by any number of factors (meds, sleep deprivation, dehydration, being nervous, being upset, exhaustion, low blood sugar; even allergies.), including benign misinterpretation.

Speculation?
Sure it is.

Is there a first person eyewitness that saw him consume, within the time frame of the incident in question?

Is there other evidence, such as pictures or video, that can be date and time matched, showing him consuming within the specified time frame?

Was a breathalyzer or blood test performed within a medically proscribed time frame?

Did anyone involved state that they even "smelled" alcohol on his breath or person during the specified time frame?

(01-28-2013 01:26 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 01:06 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Did you actually watch the ENTIRE video??

Nothing about that is hearsay or speculation. You can watch the proof right in front of your very own eyes.

On Saturday morning, I had been up for more than 24 hours and just finished an event which ran from 12am to 7am and required a lot of thinking (no drinking allowed). By the end of this thing, it took me 2 minutes to figure out how to stack a chair on top of another, I could barely focus on what people were saying, and I was having trouble thinking of even the most normal words and phrases. I'm not saying he wasn't drunk, but there's certainly other possibilities. In all honestly, I probably looked way more out of it than BT did in that video and I hadn't had one sip of alcohol.

ps. If you're wondering what event happens from 12am to 7am, it was an MTG tournament...I'm a nerd at heart lol.

Yeah normally it wouldn't be a big deal but when you take a recruit to a funeral the day before, have a bunch of people you know die on you and then have a history like Blaine Taylor's, you lose the benefit of the doubt.

(01-28-2013 01:26 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 01:06 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Did you actually watch the ENTIRE video??

Nothing about that is hearsay or speculation. You can watch the proof right in front of your very own eyes.

Yes.
As I stated; anomalous behavior could be the result by any number of factors (meds, sleep deprivation, dehydration, being nervous, being upset, exhaustion, low blood sugar; even allergies.), including benign misinterpretation.

Speculation?
Sure it is.

Is there a first person eyewitness that saw him consume, within the time frame of the incident in question?

Is there other evidence, such as pictures or video, that can be date and time matched, showing him consuming within the specified time frame?

Was a breathalyzer or blood test performed within a medically proscribed time frame?

Did anyone involved state that they even "smelled" alcohol on his breath or person during the specified time frame?

Well considering we are 2-17 and no one is even going to these things anymore, I think it's gonna be hard to find a first hand account.

Secondly, as I said, if he was sick he should have just called in. I know for a FACT they have canceled the coaches show before or sent Jim corrigan instead when Blaine was "under the weather", I've heard it myself.
So the sickness answer is out the window.

But honestly, you guys are trying to do your best to dress it up and excuse it which is commendable but eveyone here knows Blaine's history. We know he's had problems with this before and deep down inside, you know what happened, even if you won't admit it publicly.

If they have you a lie detector test and said "if you lie to us, we will kill you" and then asked yes or no, was Blaine Taylor drunk, every single one of you would say "yes". You'd have too.

And if you claim otherwise you are straining credibility. He's not sick. He's not coughing or sneezing or gagging or anything like that.

They made no announcement that he was "under the weather" or "not feeling well", nothing at all. They said nothing about him being tired or having traveled (we know for a fact he didn't travel anywhere because he hosted a recruit this weekend and brilliantly took him to a funeral )

You can look far and wide for excuses for him but deep down we all know his history and what happened here. At least a dozen people have now tested me and said they've seen him drunk around town. I highly doubt they are all lying.

He clearly has a problem. He needs help, and he isn't going to get better until he and we admit there is a problem and force him to get that help.

Last time it took a DUI and a 28 day program to get him sober. The man has a problem. The last thing he needs is people looking the other way and trying to excuse his actions for him as something else.

Period.

If the athletic department wants proof and/or eyewitnesses, from what I am reading here, all they would have to do is talk to the people around him individually. I, for one, had never seen/suspected it at an official function before until the coaches show... and there was surely alcohol involved there in my opinion. I have heard about him around town before, but didn't care about that, but I also didn't know he was an alcoholic and had been to rehab etc. So yeah, knowing the full story from Montana puts things into a different perspective.

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(01-28-2013 03:06 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Secondly, as I said, if he was sick he should have just called in. I know for a FACT they have canceled the coaches show before or sent Jim corrigan instead when Blaine was "under the weather", I've heard it myself.

Anyway, while I think he probably was under the influence in the coaches show, that's just my opinion. I don't know that for a fact. I would like to point out that, while he spilled his cup of water, it seemed like it was poured near to the top. He hardly tilted it and it spilled. He wasn't even looking at the cup when he tried to sip it. I mean, I've spilled stuff on myself before - especially when it was poured high. So... just wanted to challenge that small tidbit.