Osei going to Illinois worked well for him, didn't it; and for us opened the spot for Lynch

Plus not sure that our "top" QB who was going to greyshirt is/was a make or break guy for this class.

(01-25-2013 12:54 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  I'm going to reiterate a point that has been made several times on this board, I want kids who WANT to be here as their top choice. I dont want players "to settle" for NIU because they didn't have offers from BCS schools.

Well, how many of the players we got would have wanted to be here if they'd gotten offers from Oklahoma, Oregon, etc?

(01-25-2013 02:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:00 PM)gcd Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 01:25 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Kimble was one of our top? No one, including recruiting services, had ever heard of him when we got his commit.

this is a bad move by Kimble. The SU and NC St recruiting classes for this year wil be soso, that is usually the case with a coaching change. The subsequent classes will be much better pushing a player like Kimble further down the depth chart. . Kimble is a fill in for this class. His best chance to play would have been to come to our place, red shirt, and as a redshirt frosh, compete for the starting job. I doubt very much he will ever see the field as a QB at either SU or NC st. See Miles Osei at UI. Players don't get lost in the shuffle at our place

Explain this, please, because I think I disagree.

i am not sure i can in a post. my point is for SU and NCSt to up thier game, i think they have to recruit at a higher level. their next classes will be better and better players may make it hard for a kimble to get on the field. I would suggest that in Schafer and Doeren third year as HC, would never recruit a Kimble. This is not to say he is a bad player, its just that they will want a more sure thing if there is such a thing. Thats the best i can do, just think about it.

(01-25-2013 02:05 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  Plus not sure that our "top" QB who was going to greyshirt is/was a make or break guy for this class.

also, lets not give up on the QBs we have on the roster. DD did not recruit Drew Hare because he looked good in a uniform.

I was expecting to read about some negative issue about NIU in this thread. All of this has been said in the recruiting and verbal threads. Nothing to see here

This is more what I thought would happen here with the OB bid. If Toledo can do it, we should be able to. Period!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/toledo/football/...9mnI.mXeZ_


Had multiple BCS offers

Yeah! And then they can keep losing to use every year with our 2 star QBs with one offer and we can keep winning the MAC West! Period!

(01-25-2013 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah! And then they can keep losing to use every year with our 2 star QBs with one offer and we can keep winning the MAC West! Period!

Dude, this isn't a pissing contest. I agree that we have deloped the hell out of under-recruited players, but it still would be nice to get a great player once in a while and coach him the same exact way. Imagine what we can do with a kid that has great ability along with good work ethic that is very highly thought of in recruiting circles. Wow! Goodness. If we ever want to take the next step (TCU, Boise) we need to get some great players . Period. I know what you are saying , but you don't always catch lightening in a bottle. Give me a break. We didn't offer this kid that just chose Toledo, but if we did, we would want him just as bad as Toledo. Especially if we want to talk about taking this program to the next level. If anything else, the news that we land a big time recruit now and again, attracts other ones.

Yeah if we got a great player and coached him up we might even be able to make it to a BCS game one day!

Oh, wait. We already did that? Oh, okay. I mean, what are we talking about here? We're one of 5 non BCS teams to ever make a BCS bowl. We ARE at the level of TCU/Boise. The only reason we aren't getting looks from bigger conferences is because we have no fan base to speak of. It literally has ZERO to do with recruiting. Nothing. Oh look, here's a new argument.

(01-25-2013 03:12 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah if we got a great player and coached him up we might even be able to make it to a BCS game one day!

Oh, wait. We already did that? Oh, okay.

Making it to one BCS game was a huge accomplishment and I am as proud as anyone that was there. Trust me. BUt Boise wasn't satisfied with one BCS game, neither was TCU. Getting there is special, but being able to consider yourself that calibur of team long term should be the goal. (obviously you would rather stir the pot) NOt sure why becasue you never used to be that way. To maintain what we are doing I believe we need upgraded recruiting classes. Do you think Florida State would be o.k. with a mediocre class? Hell know, they will be top 10 again or be mad as hell! Getting to a BCS game is the best thing ever, but I dont't want to be a one hit wonder. Let's take it and run with it! We didn't build the Chessick Center to look at. It's to attract great players!

(01-25-2013 03:12 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah if we got a great player and coached him up we might even be able to make it to a BCS game one day!

Oh, wait. We already did that? Oh, okay. I mean, what are we talking about here? We're one of 5 non BCS teams to ever make a BCS bowl. We ARE at the level of TCU/Boise. The only reason we aren't getting looks from bigger conferences is because we have no fan base to speak of. It literally has ZERO to do with recruiting. Nothing. Oh look, here's a new argument.

I honestly wish I could agree, but we are not TCU or BOise. We are more like Hawaii. TCU and BOise both have BCS victories. Boise has 2 wins. We kept it close, but we can't consider ourselves Boise State. Not even close yet. We are, however getting there.

To maintain what we're doing? NIU won 11 games and the MAC, lost the best QB (and arguably player) in school history, the entire offensive line, 2 WRs, and the starting RB (and then lost 2 more RBs during the year) and ended up winning 12 games and going to a BCS bowl. You're acting like what NIU is doing is flukey and can't be sustained. It has been sustained. I'm not stirring the pot, I'm telling the truth. We aren't a one hit wonder.

And to anybody worried about or blaming Carey, I suggest you go look at what's happening with Oregon's recruits right now. They lost their head coach and they're coming off 4(?) straight BCS bowls and their class is getting raided too. You people are being completley irrational.

Man, all this time I was thinking the Chessick Center and it's webcam were there to keep me entertained at work. ha

I feel your pain though. But won't lash out if I need to until signing day is actually here. Then it's a no holds barred ***** fest after that. Watch out Dog Pound!
Maybe Carey and co. will have a surprise for us. I sure hope they do.

(01-25-2013 03:15 PM)niufb83 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 03:12 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah if we got a great player and coached him up we might even be able to make it to a BCS game one day!

Oh, wait. We already did that? Oh, okay.

Making it to one BCS game was a huge accomplishment and I am as proud as anyone that was there. Trust me. BUt Boise wasn't satisfied with one BCS game, neither was TCU. Getting there is special, but being able to consider yourself that calibur of team long term should be the goal. (obviously you would rather stir the pot) NOt sure why becasue you never used to be that way. To maintain what we are doing I believe we need upgraded recruiting classes. Do you think Florida State would be o.k. with a mediocre class? Hell know, they will be top 10 again or be mad as hell! Getting to a BCS game is the best thing ever, but I dont't want to be a one hit wonder. Let's take it and run with it! We didn't build the Chessick Center to look at. It's to attract great players!

We are building the CPC is to make the players we have better. It may help us with one more kid per year in football but seriously just about everyone else has an IPF of some sort.

Actually we already had the use of an IPF it just wasn't NIUs or on campus.

(01-25-2013 03:20 PM)7 Wrote:  To maintain what we're doing? NIU won 11 games and the MAC, lost the best QB (and arguably player) in school history, the entire offensive line, 2 WRs, and the starting RB (and then lost 2 more RBs during the year) and ended up winning 12 games and going to a BCS bowl. You're acting like what NIU is doing is flukey and can't be sustained. It has been sustained. I'm not stirring the pot, I'm telling the truth. We aren't a one hit wonder.

And to anybody worried about or blaming Carey, I suggest you go look at what's happening with Oregon's recruits right now. They lost their head coach and they're coming off 4(?) straight BCS bowls and their class is getting raided too. You people are being completley irrational.

1st of all , who is irrational here? I wore the red jersey and am as proud as ever. Super proud. One of the proudest days was sitting in Sunlife Stadium and seeing our boys take the field. As a Novak era guy, this is what we all envisioned. It was awesome.

We just have different views and that's cool. I am not irrational at all. I felt like the OB would be what we needed to start recruting top flight classes in our league. I agree with player development, but in that regard, I want our coaches to develop the best players and signees in this league. I want this program to reach new heights. The Carey hire will play itself out and hopefully be as awesome as the last two. I just wish they would have taken more time and went through the process. Being the best MAC program over the past 6 or 7 years is absolutely awesome. But our vision 15 years ago in Huskie Stadium was to get this thing even bigger than that. We wanted to be a perinnial top 25 program.

I am excited about next season and think we will be great. I want that to continue and these boards are for debate. I bring up honest questions that have yet to be answered for me. Period. Irrational would not be accurate. Irrational would be me wanting all 4 and 5 start recruits. I just want a solid class with a couple big surprise steals from BCS leagues becaseu the kid says he likes what we are doing and wants to get this program into a top 25 program every year. Something we have only finished the season with once in our history.

TCU and Boise made a history of finishing in the top 25.

(01-25-2013 03:41 PM)niufb83 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 03:20 PM)7 Wrote:  To maintain what we're doing? NIU won 11 games and the MAC, lost the best QB (and arguably player) in school history, the entire offensive line, 2 WRs, and the starting RB (and then lost 2 more RBs during the year) and ended up winning 12 games and going to a BCS bowl. You're acting like what NIU is doing is flukey and can't be sustained. It has been sustained. I'm not stirring the pot, I'm telling the truth. We aren't a one hit wonder.

And to anybody worried about or blaming Carey, I suggest you go look at what's happening with Oregon's recruits right now. They lost their head coach and they're coming off 4(?) straight BCS bowls and their class is getting raided too. You people are being completley irrational.

1st of all , who is irrational here? I wore the red jersey and am as proud as ever. Super proud. One of the proudest days was sitting in Sunlife Stadium and seeing our boys take the field. As a Novak era guy, this is what we all envisioned. It was awesome.

We just have different views and that's cool. I am not irrational at all. I felt like the OB would be waht we needed to start recruting top flight classes in our league. I agree with player development, but in that regard, I want our coaches to develop the best players and signees in this league. I want this program to reach new heights. the Carey hire will play itself out and hopefully be as awesome as the last two. I jsut wish they would have taken more time and went through the process.

I am excited about next season and think we will be great. I want that to continue and these boards are for debate. I bring up honest questions that have yet to be answered for me. Period. Irrational would not be accurate. Irrational would be me wanting all 4 and 5 start recruits. I jsut want a solid class with a couple big surprise steals from BCS leagues becaseu the kid says he likes what we are doing and wants to get this program into a top 25 program every year. Something we have only finished the season with once in our history.

TCU and Boise made a history of finishing in the top 25.

TCU & Boise also have retained the same coach constantly for years. We are still NIU from the MAC, it will take more than 1 BCS bowl to retain a seat in the national spotlight. nothing has changed. respect must still be earned.

It was irrational to expect NIU to lose it's coach and think the recruiting class wouldn't take a hit from it.

(01-25-2013 03:44 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 03:41 PM)niufb83 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 03:20 PM)7 Wrote:  To maintain what we're doing? NIU won 11 games and the MAC, lost the best QB (and arguably player) in school history, the entire offensive line, 2 WRs, and the starting RB (and then lost 2 more RBs during the year) and ended up winning 12 games and going to a BCS bowl. You're acting like what NIU is doing is flukey and can't be sustained. It has been sustained. I'm not stirring the pot, I'm telling the truth. We aren't a one hit wonder.

And to anybody worried about or blaming Carey, I suggest you go look at what's happening with Oregon's recruits right now. They lost their head coach and they're coming off 4(?) straight BCS bowls and their class is getting raided too. You people are being completley irrational.

1st of all , who is irrational here? I wore the red jersey and am as proud as ever. Super proud. One of the proudest days was sitting in Sunlife Stadium and seeing our boys take the field. As a Novak era guy, this is what we all envisioned. It was awesome.

We just have different views and that's cool. I am not irrational at all. I felt like the OB would be waht we needed to start recruting top flight classes in our league. I agree with player development, but in that regard, I want our coaches to develop the best players and signees in this league. I want this program to reach new heights. the Carey hire will play itself out and hopefully be as awesome as the last two. I jsut wish they would have taken more time and went through the process.

I am excited about next season and think we will be great. I want that to continue and these boards are for debate. I bring up honest questions that have yet to be answered for me. Period. Irrational would not be accurate. Irrational would be me wanting all 4 and 5 start recruits. I jsut want a solid class with a couple big surprise steals from BCS leagues becaseu the kid says he likes what we are doing and wants to get this program into a top 25 program every year. Something we have only finished the season with once in our history.

TCU and Boise made a history of finishing in the top 25.

TCU & Boise also have retained the same coach constantly for years. We are still NIU from the MAC, it will take more than 1 BCS bowl to retain a seat in the national spotlight. nothing has changed. respect must still be earned.

You are 100% correct. Couldn't agree more. Money has a lot to do with that as does their ability to sell 40,000+ tickets to every home game.

(01-25-2013 03:50 PM)niufb83 Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 03:44 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  TCU & Boise also have retained the same coach constantly for years. We are still NIU from the MAC, it will take more than 1 BCS bowl to retain a seat in the national spotlight. nothing has changed. respect must still be earned.

You are 100% correct. Couldn't agree more. Money has a lot to do with that as does their ability to sell 40,000+ tickets to every home game.

Boise St and TCU (when still in MWC) coaches are getting paid more than DD is at NC St.