(01-22-2013 10:37 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:35 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:23 PM)bostontiger Wrote:  Does the university have a student shuttle to the downtown campus (law school)? if not, the university needs an immediate, additional plan to provide transport for the students.

Go Tigers GO!
On-campus stadium plan NOW!

Shuttle...give me a break....how many students live on campus? 10%?

The majority of the students are commuter students...they have their own car....they don't need a shuttle, they need to just get their asses down to the FEF.

All the more reason why an OCS continues to be an uphill struggle

New dorms, students moving into neighborhoods south of campus, developers building apartments; the progress is there. It will be a while, but you can see that in 5-10 years a LOT more action will be happening on campus.

(01-22-2013 10:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  If you want students to attend games you have OC facilities. Just look around at schools with good BB programs with OC facilities. Start with the ACC.........

Not sure how our commuter school compares

I go to several UNLV games and the students go ape-sh!t. Their attendance overall sucks but the students come out to cheer like crazy. What's up with our kids?

(01-22-2013 10:40 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:37 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:35 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:23 PM)bostontiger Wrote:  Does the university have a student shuttle to the downtown campus (law school)? if not, the university needs an immediate, additional plan to provide transport for the students.

Go Tigers GO!
On-campus stadium plan NOW!

Shuttle...give me a break....how many students live on campus? 10%?

The majority of the students are commuter students...they have their own car....they don't need a shuttle, they need to just get their asses down to the FEF.

All the more reason why an OCS continues to be an uphill struggle

New dorms, students moving into neighborhoods south of campus, developers building apartments; the progress is there. It will be a while, but you can see that in 5-10 years a LOT more action will be happening on campus.

I am quoting all of this just because I dont want to go back to find the original..

I agree with shuttling. They should run a bus every 30 minutes from campus to LB/Forum starting about 3 hours before game and ending about 1 hour after game. Students that dont live on campus can still park at the Memphis campus and ride the shuttle down with friends.

I think it would help in both basketball and football.

(01-20-2013 03:12 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Memphis being a commuter school hurts too. A majority of students live in the surrounding suburbs and drive to school. Once they finish class/hanging out they go home. In most places, the game is played on campus, students are there (for lack of other option) and they go, sometimes out of boredome...at least that's what I'm told from my Mississippi State friends. Believe it or not, it takes some planning and effort to get to the FEF. You can't just decide to go out of nowhere and walk across campus. It's a little bit of a drive, pay for parking, and al that to see us play Tulane? Again, not making excuses...simply explaining the situation from a student's POV. I'm at the game when I can make it and am very loud.

If I hear "pay for parking" one more time, I am going to explode! Parking is FREE on the street, and your car is just as likely to be broken into in a garage as on the street, if that is your worry. Tiger fans will accompany you all the way to your car after every game.

And I have friends, many, who drive from Cordova every game, after working all day, and some who are raising children. It's not to see Tulane; it's to support your team. And those ARE excuses. Please tell your friends.

How many students drive from Cordova to Cooper-Young or Overton Square or downtown every weekend? The bars in Midtown are PACKED with students.

(01-22-2013 10:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:40 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:37 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:35 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:23 PM)bostontiger Wrote:  Does the university have a student shuttle to the downtown campus (law school)? if not, the university needs an immediate, additional plan to provide transport for the students.

Go Tigers GO!
On-campus stadium plan NOW!

Shuttle...give me a break....how many students live on campus? 10%?

The majority of the students are commuter students...they have their own car....they don't need a shuttle, they need to just get their asses down to the FEF.

All the more reason why an OCS continues to be an uphill struggle

New dorms, students moving into neighborhoods south of campus, developers building apartments; the progress is there. It will be a while, but you can see that in 5-10 years a LOT more action will be happening on campus.

I am quoting all of this just because I dont want to go back to find the original..

I agree with shuttling. They should run a bus every 30 minutes from campus to LB/Forum starting about 3 hours before game and ending about 1 hour after game. Students that dont live on campus can still park at the Memphis campus and ride the shuttle down with friends.

I think it would help in both basketball and football.

That would work in certain places, but in the South, and Memphis for certain, taking the bus or any form of public transportation is viewed as something that's for poor people or a certain demographic instead of being something that's smart and resourceful.

(01-20-2013 08:36 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Me three...wish we DID have more blue hairs, especially in all those EMPTY seats in the student section. Funny how so many of the students come just to watch the OTHER team play instead of coming to watch the tigers play whoever they are playing. Last time I checked, that's not supporting YOUR team. I've often wondered why Coach doesn't get involved in trying to rally the students to come to games, but then I realize that's probably pretty far down the list of important things to do nowdays.

Me, four.

I would PAY to sit in the student seats below me. I am a whole section above and I guarantee I pay a lot more to sit up there than a student activity fee costs. It kills me to see a whole section of seats below me empty nearly every game.

I come to 98 percent of the games, walk blocks in every kind of weather, and go to work bright and early the next day. I also rush to many of the games on weekdays from my job in all parts of the county. Cry me a river.

(01-22-2013 11:31 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:12 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Memphis being a commuter school hurts too. A majority of students live in the surrounding suburbs and drive to school. Once they finish class/hanging out they go home. In most places, the game is played on campus, students are there (for lack of other option) and they go, sometimes out of boredome...at least that's what I'm told from my Mississippi State friends. Believe it or not, it takes some planning and effort to get to the FEF. You can't just decide to go out of nowhere and walk across campus. It's a little bit of a drive, pay for parking, and al that to see us play Tulane? Again, not making excuses...simply explaining the situation from a student's POV. I'm at the game when I can make it and am very loud.

If I hear "pay for parking" one more time, I am going to explode! Parking is FREE on the street, and your car is just as likely to be broken into in a garage as on the street, if that is your worry. Tiger fans will accompany you all the way to your car after every game.

And I have friends, many, who drive from Cordova every game, after working all day, and some who are raising children. It's not to see Tulane; it's to support your team. And those ARE excuses. Please tell your friends.

How many students drive from Cordova to Cooper-Young or Overton Square or downtown every weekend? The bars in Midtown are PACKED with students.

How many bars on Beale or downtown are packed with students?

The students suck money balls is about the only thing you can say.

(01-20-2013 09:38 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Unless you have on campus sports, FB & BB, it will be very difficult to have consistent student involvement. Also have you noticed most all of the ACC schools with large student involvement in BB have them seated in prime seats at courtside? Most of our student seating is nose-bleed. Also is there any promotion to students, any reliable transportation to the games, emphasis to go, etc? And Memphis is becoming more on-campus in terms student life too, so that too is an old, tired argument - and it costs money (travel & parking to go downtown) which students don't have.

There is plenty of student seating extending all the way down to the court almost. Parking is FREE on the street. When I was in college and we wanted to go out to a restaurant or to the mall, we would carpool, all contributing to the gas.

How many students go all over this county for entertainment or shopping?

How far do students think they are going to have to drive to work some day? It will probably be more than 20 minutes each way.

But yes, we do need more marketing to the students and shuttle busses would help, too.

(01-20-2013 09:44 AM)Maiamire Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 09:38 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Unless you have on campus sports, FB & BB, it will be very difficult to have consistent student involvement. Also have you noticed most all of the ACC schools with large student involvement in BB have them seated in prime seats at courtside? Most of our student seating is nose-bleed. Also is there any promotion to students, any reliable transportation to the games, emphasis to go, etc? And Memphis is becoming more on-campus in terms student life too, so that too is an old, tired argument - and it costs money (travel & parking to go downtown) which students don't have.

Yes. Please explain to me how



Sections 110 and 109 are 'nose bleed'. Or how they can't even be filled up in order to make students sit in the higher levels.

I'm in 205. I look DOWN on a whole section of empty student seats, and I pay a TSF donation, too.

(01-20-2013 09:55 AM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  Atlanta, your post is so full of BS it is coming out of your eyes. There are two lower level sections for students and even the upper level seats provides a perfectly fine view. And students of the university that is playing the game need to have PROMOTIONS to remind them?! Are you kidding me? I heard a lot of excuses when I was a student of why people wouldn't go, but that has to be, far and away, the worst excuse I've ever heard. Finally, you say it costs too much money. Are you a college student or an undesirable living in a Mumbai slum? Parking is $10 and getting there and back is no more than $10 of gas. Get 4 friends and you spend **gasp** $5 on this lavish trip!

Cheaper than a movie. Parking is FREE.

Hint: Their entertainment dollars are pouring into Cooper-Young, Overton Square, and downtown. Come out and see it some weekend. You can hardly get in a door of establishments in those areas.

(01-20-2013 02:09 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 09:55 AM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  Atlanta, your post is so full of BS it is coming out of your eyes. There are two lower level sections for students and even the upper level seats provides a perfectly fine view. And students of the university that is playing the game need to have PROMOTIONS to remind them?! Are you kidding me? I heard a lot of excuses when I was a student of why people wouldn't go, but that has to be, far and away, the worst excuse I've ever heard. Finally, you say it costs too much money. Are you a college student or an undesirable living in a Mumbai slum? Parking is $10 and getting there and back is no more than $10 of gas. Get 4 friends and you spend **gasp** $5 on this lavish trip!

You can make all the immature statements you want but schools that have oc facilities have more students at their games. You may believe that is no excuse for poor student participation but it doesn't change the fact that where there are oc facilities more students (and out of town alum) attend. And two baseline sections are not the court side primo seats that the students have at NCSt, Duke, UNC and other ACC schools that were my example. I think more students should attend also but it doesn't change the facts I have stated about oc facilities and student attendance.

Our university situation is bad from two prospectives relative to student attendance. We have a large commutor segment who likely gets home & fellowships with non-students who don't attend our games & we have an on-campus housed group that doesn't have transportation to the games - neither works for attendance when facilities are off-campus. And yes I was a student & didn't have even $20 x2 (like most students that I know) to attend 2 games per week given other priorities.

Non-students who don't attend our games? Even the real students don't attend the games. What is wrong with bringing the non-students with you to the games with a guest ticket, thereby INCREASING attendance at the games?

Every non-student fan who goes to a game is a "commuter" by definition, from their home or work.

$20 X 2 is a fallacy. Free parking and less than $5 gas money from the U. campus. It takes less than 15 minutes to drive downtown from campus, doing the speed limit. I know. I make the drive from my home near the U. for every game.

I bet your other priorities include some entertainment dollars.

(01-20-2013 04:20 PM)NTMB Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 04:18 PM)NTMB Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 02:20 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  NTMB - are you saying that our student section is just fine with the attitudes they bring to the game? Watch games of any other major program. The students are on their feet all game. Our students stand only when the old farts stand up. Other student sections get ridiculous when the opponent is facing the section taking free throws (btw - the baseline sections seem to be a vast majority of schools' student sections). Our students sit there and don't do a thing.

Your post seems to be stating that its ok for the students to act the same way the non-students do. That's fine if you feel that way, but that doesn't change the fact that them being that apathetic makes them a bad student section when compared to other schools. Other schools do not use the cheerleaders and bands to give off the energy, they use the student section and it's what makes college basketball so special everywhere else.

What I'm saying is that students are no different than any other fan when it comes to getting excited during a game. Students have many more pressing needs and obligations than watching basketball on weeknights and saturday mornings. The economy is in the crapper and most of our student body is living off campus, paying rent, car, and all the same bills as most adults in Memphis... plus working (often full time) and going to school full time. Throw in their own extracurricular activities (such as social organizations, etc.) and I personally can see why there is apathy among the students toward attending games. Now as for the students AT the games... I simply pointed out that I doubt that the student section is the only "dead" section in the forum and they are there to be entertained just like anyone else there. To expect them to provide you with entertainment and inspiration is just dumb.

Also, I don't attend other schools' events. the only way I know how the students typically act at other schools is either when WE play them, and of course they're fired up for that; or when they are shown on TV, and of course the section is going to look good when the camera is zoomed in on their faces.

I'm not saying any of the above is good. Just trying to help some of you cope with it.

I'm Old School. I don't expect the students to entertain me and I don't expect them to be entertained. I expect them to come out, have fun, show loyalty to their school, and cheer for their team. I sure expect them to stand up and try to distract the guy making the free throws right in front of their seats. We are all screaming from the rafters and the students just sit there.

My son is a student and he has all those obligations ~ school, two jobs, car, off campus ~ and he somehow makes every game at his school.

(01-20-2013 10:55 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 08:57 AM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:12 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Memphis being a commuter school hurts too. A majority of students live in the surrounding suburbs and drive to school. Once they finish class/hanging out they go home. In most places, the game is played on campus, students are there (for lack of other option) and they go, sometimes out of boredome...at least that's what I'm told from my Mississippi State friends. Believe it or not, it takes some planning and effort to get to the FEF. You can't just decide to go out of nowhere and walk across campus. It's a little bit of a drive, pay for parking, and al that to see us play Tulane? Again, not making excuses...simply explaining the situation from a student's POV. I'm at the game when I can make it and am very loud.

I was a student 2 years ago. My friends and I never missed a game. It's a 15 minute drive from campus and a 25 minute drive from East Memphis. That excuse is tired and played out regarding attendance.

Again, you keep talking about attendance when that's not the point. The students that do go are the quietest, least enthusiastic fans in the whole forum. That's incredibly embarrassing when it's supposed to be students that give the crowd energy.

Fact is , commuter schools are normally in bigger cities, urban campuses. There is much more to do compared to college towns. Ole miss has one of the best pregame football sites in the country. But aside from those seven days, nothing worth goining to oxford for. Schools like cinci, memphis, houston,usf, ucf,have enough intrested fans, they just have many more options and distractions!

Bingo! It's a *choice* our students are making. Come see how their dollars flow on a Saturday night in Midtown. Their trip WAY downtown to a game could be paid for by just one of the six expensive drinks they have on a Saturday night.

(01-21-2013 11:46 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 11:29 AM)staciemontero Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 11:26 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 11:21 AM)staciemontero Wrote:  

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Lord have mercy....if true, this younger generation of college student is more screwed up than I thought.

Ha well our adult fans are expecting the same things, so I don't think we can throw stones.

yeah well.... at least most of those adult fans actually show up to the games

I agree with that, BUT the reason most of those folks still go is because they have invested $$ in season tickets. Obviously, the students are paying for them as well (from the student activities fee) but they don't see it as throwing money away when they don't attend. I've been frustrated at times this year, but I still go, because I'm not wasting the dollars I spent paying for them.

I'm betting MOST of those adult fans that have major $$ invested in the athletic program/basketball go to games because they just support the team, not there for a date, social activity or whatever you want to call it, not there to be seen on ESPN acting a fool, not there to see a visiting big name school/rival ... just wish more students had a little school spirit and cared about supporting their fellow student athletes.

You are right. That logic is backward. I am a very small donor; I sit in the nosebleeds, for which I pay a "donation", in addition to my ticket price, to the TSF, even though I have thousands of dollars I still owe for my own children's tuition. I attend the games not because I have invested in a season ticket, but rather, I invest in a season ticket because I support my team and school. (even though my degree is from another school.)
And far from being a social activity, I am frequently there, in my seat, all by myself.
Yes, most of the adult fans are still going to the games even though we haven't gotten very far in the Dance in four years.

(01-22-2013 02:33 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 01:12 PM)Tiger188 Wrote:  There are 2 areas of student sections. The one in the lower level and the one in the upper level directly above the one in the lower level. The one in the upper level consists of 2 sections and with the exception of the Louisville game, (which still did not fill up all the way. There were empty seats in these sections), not a sole has been in the upper student sections. SO I say open these sections up for season tickets. They would be swiped up quick. When the upper and lower student sections are combined, they consist of about 2,000 seats, which if they filled up every game, would be one heck of a student section. But they dont. Only about 200-300 students actually come. So I say get rid of the upper student section and give them as season tickets, and just have the lower level student section available for students and student guests, at least then it would be full. Students that want to bring guests just end up not even coming to games now because they know they will have to sit up top, and don't want to. So they don't come. So just let them sit down low.

I second this. Some students actually showed up for the Louisville game but there was still a whole empty section of student seats in the terrace. There is maybe one game a year when there are any student seats used in the upper deck. Take the student section in the terrace and sell them to the general public.

Please, first, give the long-time season ticket holders/TSF donators/Rebounders/Highland Hundred members/football building fund contributors, and others who sit *above* those seats in the rafters a crack at them. I would LOVE to move down. The student section I sit above did not have one single person in it last game.

(01-22-2013 05:11 PM)NTMB Wrote:  Just curious, what's the waiting list for regular season tickets look like these days?

I may be wrong, but I think there are always season tickets to be had.

(01-22-2013 10:01 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 09:58 PM)Maiamire Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 09:54 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 09:50 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  And of course the students that are there are amongst the less enthusiastic people in the forum.

Texting and tweeting

But they spent so much time and money making their way to the forum! They must be exhausted.

"I can't afford all this gas money! #ImBroke"

-sent from My iPhone.

"See you at Overton Square after the game?"

(01-22-2013 10:33 PM)Tiger188 Wrote:  

(01-22-2013 10:23 PM)bostontiger Wrote:  Does the university have a student shuttle to the downtown campus (law school)? if not, the university needs an immediate, additional plan to provide transport for the students.

Go Tigers GO!
On-campus stadium plan NOW!

They have a shuttle from campus to the forum every game. Students just won't go unless we're in the top 5 or playing a big team

Heck, I used to drive from my home in the U of M area, east down Poplar to Laurelwood Shopping Center where I would meet a friend and take the MATA shuttle down to the Forum...which said shuttle bus would deliver us after the game out to Laurelwood where I would get in my car and go back home, west. Shuttle bus, my azz.