Thank you, Professor. So there's no damaged or torn tissue in a pull? In a strain is the muscle not just overtaxed, yet not torn? Please explain the difference rather than grading my attempt to simplify it.

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(01-04-2013 05:01 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  Thank you, Professor. So there's no damaged or torn tissue in a pull? In a strain is the muscle not overtaxed, but not torn? Please explain the difference rather than grading my attempt to simplify it.

there's tearing of muscle fibers in both strains and pulls. They're the same mechanism of injury, but i think people use pull when they want to indicate more severe damage (i.e. more amount of muscle fiber that's torn)

I know if someone pulls your groin hard enough, it could cause a strain.

I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

What in the blue hell are you all talking about?

(01-04-2013 04:59 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:54 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  balzac


and
you guys can argue about ANYTHING cant you?

no we can't, what an absurd statement

Really?


Post: #11RE: Exactly what kind of injury does Tarik Black have?

a strain is a pull. WTF is pastner talking about?

(01-04-2013 05:08 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:59 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:54 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  balzac


and
you guys can argue about ANYTHING cant you?

no we can't, what an absurd statement

Really?


Post: #11RE: Exactly what kind of injury does Tarik Black have?

a strain is a pull. WTF is pastner talking about?

the joke is, you said we could argue about anything, and then i denied it and started an argument about it

what's the difference between a break and a fracture? it's the same discussion, nothing

or a heart attack and a myocardial infarction (or a "coronary" if you're really old)

or COPD and emphysema

etc etc

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:01 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  Thank you, Professor. So there's no damaged or torn tissue in a pull? In a strain is the muscle not overtaxed, but not torn? Please explain the difference rather than grading my attempt to simplify it.

there's tearing of muscle fibers in both strains and pulls. They're the same mechanism of injury, but i think people use pull when they want to indicate more severe damage (i.e. more amount of muscle fiber that's torn)

agreed.

Now back to the original point. A strain is the lessor of the injuries and will heal naturally, with time. A pull is more serious, with more damaged tissue. It likely will require a longer time to heal and may even require further medical intervention.
Whether this is in Greys Anatomy or not this is how the two terms are differentiated in locker rooms, since the origin of stadiums.

(01-04-2013 05:14 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:01 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  Thank you, Professor. So there's no damaged or torn tissue in a pull? In a strain is the muscle not overtaxed, but not torn? Please explain the difference rather than grading my attempt to simplify it.

there's tearing of muscle fibers in both strains and pulls. They're the same mechanism of injury, but i think people use pull when they want to indicate more severe damage (i.e. more amount of muscle fiber that's torn)

agreed.

Now back to the original point. A strain is the lessor of the injuries and will heal naturally, with time. A pull is more serious, with more damaged tissue. It likely will require a longer time to heal and may even require further medical intervention.
Whether this is in Greys Anatomy or not this is how the two terms are differentiated in locker rooms, since the origin of stadiums.

that may be, I'm just noting that, in the medical lexicon, it's nonsensical

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

Pretty sure not

(01-04-2013 05:55 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

Pretty sure not

Mouche was out b/c of a different kind of groin pull?

(01-04-2013 05:12 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:08 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:59 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:54 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  balzac


and
you guys can argue about ANYTHING cant you?

no we can't, what an absurd statement

Really?


Post: #11RE: Exactly what kind of injury does Tarik Black have?

a strain is a pull. WTF is pastner talking about?

the joke is, you said we could argue about anything, and then i denied it and started an argument about it

If ya have to explain 'em . . . well anyway, I thought it was funny.

Groin injuries are nothing to play with. Hurt like hell. Not going to get better anytime soon.

Playing basketball with a groin injury is much easier though than playing, say, soccer.

(01-04-2013 07:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:55 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

Pretty sure not

Mouche was out b/c of a different kind of groin pull?

Just read again. Can't remember a couple of years ago right now, but this one is definitely "different" than Mouche last year which is what I was thinking of

(01-04-2013 07:31 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 07:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:55 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

Pretty sure not

Mouche was out b/c of a different kind of groin pull?

Just read again. Can't remember a couple of years ago right now, but this one is definitely "different" than Mouche last year which is what I was thinking of

Yeah if I remember correctly Charles hyperextended his groin. Lol

(01-04-2013 07:38 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 07:31 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 07:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:55 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:06 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  I think he pulled something much like Mouche a couple years ago. It might be awhile.

Pretty sure not

Mouche was out b/c of a different kind of groin pull?

Just read again. Can't remember a couple of years ago right now, but this one is definitely "different" than Mouche last year which is what I was thinking of

Yeah if I remember correctly Charles hyperextended his groin. Lol

@snicker