(12-17-2012 07:52 AM)Yoda Wrote: (12-17-2012 06:54 AM)johnbragg Wrote: You're mixing up some terms here, but I think you're saying that if the C-7 leave in 2013 with the Big East name, then Conference USF would have a hard time keeping the BCS-AQ bid. If that argument comes anywhere close to getting any support from the BCS powers-that-be, then the C-7 just don't leave until 2014.
(I don't think you're talking about the NCAA tournament autobids--Conference USF would keep those under the WAC rules, where all that matters is having 7 members.)
Well, I know what I'm trying to say but I don't know that it was clear or necessarily entirely accurate.
Well, you're using some terms in confusing ways. You keep saying "autobid" in sentences about football. "Autobids" apply to NCAA tournaments--basketball, FCS, soccer, etc. Do you mean the BCS AQ bid? Because, once again, there's a super-duper-simple fix--schedule the split for June 30, 2014 instead of June 30, 2013. There's plenty of time to get "Conference USF" written into the Gang-of-Five contracts if "Conference Seton Hall" takes the Big East name with them.
Quote:Second, speaking of basketball... Same basic argument -- they are a new conference that does not automatically send its conference champion to the NCAA tourney -- for 8 years (or whatever it is now).
If I recall correctly, and I may not, there is a formula that the NCAA uses to determine whether or not a conference is a new or ongoing conference. I don't remember what it is exactly but I think it is something like a minimum of X number of schools must have played together in the same conference for a minimum of Y number of years over the previous Z number of years. As I recall it, this criterion applies regardless of who retains the conference name.
Conference name has little to do with it. The rules definitely used to be like that--I think it was 6 schools for 5 years. But they changed those rules for the benefit of the WAC.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/2011-01-19...-auto-bids
From that press release: "The new rules basically stipulate that a conference must have seven active Division I members that sponsor men’s and women’s basketball and that the conference sponsor a minimum of six men’s sports and six women’s sports."
Now, that's a press release, not the actual rule. But the press release implies that any 7 Division I schools that play the right combination of sports could form a conference and have an autobid tomorrow. "Conference USF" keeps the autobid under the WAC rule, without question. You've got members going, member coming, but always more than 7. Conference name won't matter.
The Catholics certainly think that they will get an autobid. Are they behind on their NCAA rulebook? Or have they delved deeper into that rulebook than you or I, and the continuity requirements still apply for new leagues? Or do they figure they'll get a waiver or a rule change if the WAC got one?
Quote:If they meet that criterion, whatever it is, then fine -- there is no problem. If they don't meet it, however, then you can expect the MWC and perhaps others to fight giving your champion an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. I'm not saying that they will win, but they will probably use every trick in the book to damage you.
Why is the MWC going to lead the charge against the C-7 having an NCAA basketball tournament bid?
