(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 10:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  At the gorcery store on Saturday I was behind a lady that "paid" for her items with food stamps. After she completed her "purchase" I said, "You're welcome". She obvioulsy had no clue, gave me a "Huh" face and continued on her way. Now, normally I don't judge folks because, like this lady, I didn't know her backstory, etc. However, when I saw the carten of cigarette and the 12 pack of beer go across the scanner and the cash somehow magically appeard to pay for those items, I felt inclined to comment. Pretty sure she still has no idea why I said what I did.

I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

(12-02-2012 02:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 10:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  the carten of cigarette and the 12 pack of beer

that's a lot of work for a 4 dollar pack of smokes and a 2 dollar tall-boy...

Sad.

UofM really knows his food stamps. Having been on them so long I guess that's to be expected.

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 10:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  At the gorcery store on Saturday I was behind a lady that "paid" for her items with food stamps. After she completed her "purchase" I said, "You're welcome". She obvioulsy had no clue, gave me a "Huh" face and continued on her way. Now, normally I don't judge folks because, like this lady, I didn't know her backstory, etc. However, when I saw the carten of cigarette and the 12 pack of beer go across the scanner and the cash somehow magically appeard to pay for those items, I felt inclined to comment. Pretty sure she still has no idea why I said what I did.

I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

I would go with direct transfer of money at the federal level, via the negative income tax or consumption tax prebate, and push the focused and means-tested aid programs out to the states, who could do them or not. Since I would also do French health care, which would lift a huge Medicaid burden off the states, they would have money to do it. Basically let the feds provide a basic safety net and the states supplement. I would expect to see variations from state to state, as they experiment with options, and out of that would further expect the best options to be identified and replicated.

In that model, I would expect food stamps to be adopted in some form on a widespread basis by states. More liberal states would do them because they are liberal. More conservative states would do them because conservative states tend to be more rural, and that means farmers, and farmers like food stamps because they increase demand for farm products. What would be interesting is how various states developed procedures to reduce fraud, and how those procedures got adopted elsewhere.

(12-04-2012 07:42 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 10:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  At the gorcery store on Saturday I was behind a lady that "paid" for her items with food stamps. After she completed her "purchase" I said, "You're welcome". She obvioulsy had no clue, gave me a "Huh" face and continued on her way. Now, normally I don't judge folks because, like this lady, I didn't know her backstory, etc. However, when I saw the carten of cigarette and the 12 pack of beer go across the scanner and the cash somehow magically appeard to pay for those items, I felt inclined to comment. Pretty sure she still has no idea why I said what I did.

I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

Bingo.

Why am I subsidizing their food when they're using the money they earned for their vices?

I use the money I earn for the feeding and upkeep of my family. Maybe Drew will chip in for my vices.

(12-04-2012 07:42 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 10:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  At the gorcery store on Saturday I was behind a lady that "paid" for her items with food stamps. After she completed her "purchase" I said, "You're welcome". She obvioulsy had no clue, gave me a "Huh" face and continued on her way. Now, normally I don't judge folks because, like this lady, I didn't know her backstory, etc. However, when I saw the carten of cigarette and the 12 pack of beer go across the scanner and the cash somehow magically appeard to pay for those items, I felt inclined to comment. Pretty sure she still has no idea why I said what I did.

I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

fraid not, if you get food stamps, it means you qualify...after that, it's not your business...and once you pay your taxes, it's not your money anymore...it's the governments.

(12-04-2012 09:31 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:42 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

Bingo.

Why am I subsidizing their food when they're using the money they earned for their vices?

I use the money I earn for the feeding and upkeep of my family. Maybe Drew will chip in for my vices.

do you qualify for food stamps?

(12-04-2012 01:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:42 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I see you don't understand how FOOD stamps work...no alcohol...no tobacco...

I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

fraid not, if you get food stamps, it means you qualify...after that, it's not your business...and once you pay your taxes, it's not your money anymore...it's the governments.

aren't we the government? just sayin...

(12-04-2012 01:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 09:31 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:42 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:09 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 06:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I see you totally missed the point.

I'll make it simple. The money used for the alcohol and tobacco should be used for the food, not the alcohol and tobacco.

people have vices...that's life...it's not your place to judge them...government food stamps are for FOOD...what those people do with the money they earn is their business...not yours.

Yes, yes it is our business. If you've got money, you don't need mine.

Bingo.

Why am I subsidizing their food when they're using the money they earned for their vices?

I use the money I earn for the feeding and upkeep of my family. Maybe Drew will chip in for my vices.

do you qualify for food stamps?

Not yet but Maobama is trying his hardest to have the entire nation on food stamps.