Comcast and FOX failed to come to an agreement for the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs to continue carrying FOX Sports Net programming. They're still negotiating. No one noticed until yesterday evening, but the agreement expired on 7/31.

Anyhow...

With Comcast clearing that deck, there's 13 future and continuing Big East members who reside in Comcast Sportsnet markets or at least have a concentration of fans there.

Just sayin...

SNY: UConn, Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's (though MSG Network like StJ b/c they play at the Garden).
CSN Chicago: DePaul, Notre Dame
CSN Houston (starting 10/1): Houston
CSN New England: Providence, UConn too
CSN Mid-Atlantic: Navy football, Georgetown
CSN Philadelphia: Villanova, Temple
CSS: Memphis

CSS, CSN Houston and SNY were not affiliates of FSN.

Comcast has areas sprinkled throughout Florida too.

(08-14-2012 03:16 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  Comcast and FOX failed to come to an agreement for the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs to continue carrying FOX Sports Net programming. They're still negotiating. No one noticed until yesterday evening, but the agreement expired on 7/31.

Anyhow...

With Comcast clearing that deck, there's 13 future and continuing Big East members who reside in Comcast Sportsnet markets or at least have a concentration of fans there.

Just sayin...

SNY: UConn, Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's (though MSG Network like StJ b/c they play at the Garden).
CSN Chicago: DePaul, Notre Dame
CSN Houston (starting 10/1): Houston
CSN New England: Providence, UConn too
CSN Mid-Atlantic: Navy football, Georgetown
CSN Philadelphia: Villanova, Temple
CSS: Memphis

CSS, CSN Houston and SNY were not affiliates of FSN.

Comcast has areas sprinkled throughout Florida too.

Comcast sucks. CSS sucks. Announcers on CSS sucks. So... no.

I think that could be more a statement of Fox wanting to start its own nationwide sports network, than Comcast Sports keeping them off... but we shall see.

Comcast is owned by NBC....

(08-14-2012 03:46 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:16 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  Comcast and FOX failed to come to an agreement for the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs to continue carrying FOX Sports Net programming. They're still negotiating. No one noticed until yesterday evening, but the agreement expired on 7/31.

Anyhow...

With Comcast clearing that deck, there's 13 future and continuing Big East members who reside in Comcast Sportsnet markets or at least have a concentration of fans there.

Just sayin...

SNY: UConn, Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's (though MSG Network like StJ b/c they play at the Garden).
CSN Chicago: DePaul, Notre Dame
CSN Houston (starting 10/1): Houston
CSN New England: Providence, UConn too
CSN Mid-Atlantic: Navy football, Georgetown
CSN Philadelphia: Villanova, Temple
CSS: Memphis

CSS, CSN Houston and SNY were not affiliates of FSN.

Comcast has areas sprinkled throughout Florida too.

Comcast sucks. CSS sucks. Announcers on CSS sucks. So... no.

That times 1,000!

Plus, many of those CSN affiliates (just like with Fox Sports Net) have contracts with their local MLB, NBA, & NHL teams...so there are many dates (especially nights) UNAVAILABLE for any Big East coverage.

NBC Sports HAS a new National Sports Channel that most sports fans already get that NEEDS LIVE PROGRAMMING.

Zero need for any CNS or CSS crap.

(08-14-2012 04:47 PM)ikers494 Wrote:  Comcast is owned by NBC....

Comcast bought NBC, which is good for sports, because NBC was only willing to spend all their dough on the olympics and sunday night football

Many of you missed the point. Then again I wasn't completely clear. 24 hours in a day. Even less than for carrying football and basketball games. They have to go somewhere after NBC and NBCSN

The point wasn't CSN being your national network, but picking up some content on a regional level. YES, CSS IS GODAWFUL, but its run on the shoetip of shoestring budgets. Most of the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs are not.

If anything, its a great place to show replays of Big East content.

(08-14-2012 04:49 PM)monty Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 04:47 PM)ikers494 Wrote:  Comcast is owned by NBC....

Comcast bought NBC, which is good for sports, because NBC was only willing to spend all their dough on the olympics and sunday night football

Comcast bought NBC Universal from GE, but then rolled their cable channels into the NBC Universal holdings; so basically NBC executives are overseeing the cable channels programming/operations. The one change was where Dick Ebersol changed positions from President of NBC Sports to Senior Adviser/VP of NBC Universal Sports, while the former Comcast sports chief is now President of NBC Universal Sports - So you have the full former NBC Sports staff with a tweak of top management. That will open money to be spent on events other than the NFL and Olympics, but don't expect them to give up on the Olympics either, especially after record ratings this Olympics and even more likely next year, with the games only an hour ahead in Rio, allowing for live prime-time events. NBC Sports will just diversify and fillout schedules between NBC, NBC-SN, and regional Comcast Stations, which might get re-branded.

(08-14-2012 05:04 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  Many of you missed the point. Then again I wasn't completely clear. 24 hours in a day. Even less than for carrying football and basketball games. They have to go somewhere after NBC and NBCSN

The point wasn't CSN being your national network, but picking up some content on a regional level. YES, CSS IS GODAWFUL, but its run on the shoetip of shoestring budgets. Most of the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs are not.

If anything, its a great place to show replays of Big East content.

I think you are spot on about Tier 3 content being on the RSN's. Basketball produces a ton of inventory, there may be lesser football games televised regionally, and baseball and olympic sports. I could see a BE branded network on the Comcast RSN's, similar to what the SEC did with ESPN.

Here's a good read on what they plan to do.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/0...cs-sports/

(08-14-2012 03:46 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:16 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  Comcast and FOX failed to come to an agreement for the Comcast Sportsnet RSNs to continue carrying FOX Sports Net programming. They're still negotiating. No one noticed until yesterday evening, but the agreement expired on 7/31.

Anyhow...

With Comcast clearing that deck, there's 13 future and continuing Big East members who reside in Comcast Sportsnet markets or at least have a concentration of fans there.

Just sayin...

SNY: UConn, Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's (though MSG Network like StJ b/c they play at the Garden).
CSN Chicago: DePaul, Notre Dame
CSN Houston (starting 10/1): Houston
CSN New England: Providence, UConn too
CSN Mid-Atlantic: Navy football, Georgetown
CSN Philadelphia: Villanova, Temple
CSS: Memphis

CSS, CSN Houston and SNY were not affiliates of FSN.

Comcast has areas sprinkled throughout Florida too.

Comcast sucks. CSS sucks. Announcers on CSS sucks. So... no.

Completely agree. I hate it when Memphis games are on CSS. Having Directv, I can't even pay extra to recieve the channel. Comcast has it locked down to only Comcast cable customers. And I refuse to give up my Directv for cable tv. Comcast cable is not even close to providing what Directv does.

In case some folks missed it, the OP was GOOD news, lol.

(08-14-2012 07:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  In case some folks missed it, the OP was GOOD news, lol.

I, personally, wasn't reponding to the OP with my comment. If it means more money then you right, it is good news. But what I was responding to was the comment about CSS. I've spent the last several years missing close to half the Memphis basketball games because they have been broadcast on CSS. I'm sure you already know that Comcast does not allow CSS to be shown on Directv. That cuts out a lot of fans here in Memphis. I am more than willing to pay to get all the televised games. I even keep a CBS Sports online membership to catch the home games I can't pick up on tv. Sorry if I seem negative but this deal with CSS and Directv is a sore subject to me. Half of our games for the last several years have been on a channel I can't recieve for any price.

(08-14-2012 07:32 PM)MemphisMarc Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 07:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  In case some folks missed it, the OP was GOOD news, lol.

I, personally, wasn't reponding to the OP with my comment. If it means more money then you right, it is good news. But what I was responding to was the comment about CSS. I've spent the last several years missing close to half the Memphis basketball games because they have been broadcast on CSS. I'm sure you already know that Comcast does not allow CSS to be shown on Directv. That cuts out a lot of fans here in Memphis. I am more than willing to pay to get all the televised games. I even keep a CBS Sports online membership to catch the home games I can't pick up on tv. Sorry if I seem negative but this deal with CSS and Directv is a sore subject to me. Half of our games for the last several years have been on a channel I can't recieve for any price.

And I wasn't responding to you, either. I get your issue. I have the same problem. But the deal that would be struck would solve those issues, b/c the games would likely be on NBC Sports, not on Comcast, unless we're talking Tier 3, assuming those even get sold. Even then, we would be talking the UT-Martin game in FB, and maybe a handful of the worst BB games, but I imagine that will not be the case, anyway.

Curious, if a market doesn't have this cable company/channel and that market is one of the bigger basketball powers in the conference, how do you get over that hurdle?

(08-14-2012 08:15 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Curious, if a market doesn't have this cable company/channel and that market is one of the bigger basketball powers in the conference, how do you get over that hurdle?

You have to deal with that in the negotiations. The issue is mostly restricted to Comcast. IF our deal is with NBC, for example, then it's really no issue, b/c most games will be on NBC Sports, which is in more homes than any sports channel besides ESPN, and usually on the same access tier as ESPN.

The best games will be aired on the NBC over-the-air flagship station, Tier 2 will likely be all NBC Sports, and Tier 3, which may or may not be included in any deal, will likely be farmed out to Regional Sports Networks to air in the appropriate regions. And if Tier 3 rights are left to the individual schools, then it is up to each school to set up its own deal with RSNs.

But in football, Tier 3 is typically only the worst FB game, say the FCS game you might have, and in BB, it may be the worst few games, maybe 3 to 5, at most. And the only people with any issue would be those fans who don't live in the region where their school is located.

(08-14-2012 07:58 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 07:32 PM)MemphisMarc Wrote:  [quote='TripleA' pid='8152652' dateline='1344989092']
In case some folks missed it, the OP was GOOD news, lol.

I, personally, wasn't reponding to the OP with my comment. If it means more money then you right, it is good news. But what I was responding to was the comment about CSS. I've spent the last several years missing close to half the Memphis basketball games because they have been broadcast on CSS. I'm sure you already know that Comcast does not allow CSS to be shown on Directv. That cuts out a lot of fans here in Memphis. I am more than willing to pay to get all the televised games. I even keep a CBS Sports online membership to catch the home games I can't pick up on tv. Sorry if I seem negative but this deal with CSS and Directv is a sore subject to me. Half of our games for the last several years have been on a channel I can't recieve for any price.

And I wasn't responding to you, either. I get your issue. I have the same problem. But the deal that would be struck would solve those issues, b/c the games would likely be on NBC Sports, not on Comcast, unless we're talking Tier 3, assuming those even get sold. Even then, we would be talking the UT-Martin game in FB, and maybe a handful of the worst BB games, but I imagine that will not be the case, anyway.
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Yea, just didn't want to sound like I was complaining about the deal in the OP. I am absolutely ecstatic about going to the Big East and cannot even imagine Memphis getting the amount of money that its looking like the BE teams will get.

I am a loyal DirecTV customer and hate we don't get CSS but Comcast isn't the problem, Charter is. Charter owns half of the network and won't give it to DirecTV. I'm pretty sure most of the other Comcast RSN's are available on the Sports Tier. I wouldn't be surprised to see NBC/Comcast use CSS as a bargaining chip, give us a better placement, say next to ESPN, and we will give you CSS. Keep in mind CSS covers these BE states, TN, KY, FL and TX.

http://www.csssports.com/pages/about_us

EDIT: Only about half of the Comcast RSN's are available on DirecTV.

does comcast do css

(08-14-2012 09:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  does comcast do css

In Memphis, you have to have the Comcast/xfinity cable service to pick up CSS. I believe at one point, CSS was offered on Directv but from what I read Comcast made then take it off. Not sure how accurate that is, but I do remember reading it somewhere.

(08-14-2012 09:19 PM)MemphisMarc Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 09:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  does comcast do css

In Memphis, you have to have the Comcast/xfinity cable service to pick up CSS. I believe at one point, CSS was offered on Directv but from what I read Comcast made then take it off. Not sure how accurate that is, but I do remember reading it somewhere.

It's on uVerse in Memphis, too, if you go to a high enough sports tier.