(08-14-2012 06:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:43 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:45 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:38 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  You don't like justice?

It should be no surprise that I reject the biblical depictions of justice, especially when it comes to such punishment. I suspect you take the bible more literally and so accept stoning as godly justice in the appropriate biblical context.

Make sure you don't wear clothing of two different fabrics or touch the skin of a deceased pig or else you'll get stoned.

I don't think any sensible people advocate for old testament law in modern times. The question posed is whether or not, within the biblical context, those people who were stoned for such offenses were in fact the recipients of appropriate and moral justice.

I say no, that it was barbarism and superstition, no better than burning women for alleged witchcraft.

Tell that to the people who oppress homosexual rights.

Well I did say "sensible" people.

(08-14-2012 02:04 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 01:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 12:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 12:15 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Does this mean that the "God is on our side" war rhetoric can be put to rest?

I don't know, but your question is certainly irrelevant.

I would think that people should stop saying that. God is on which ever side he chooses and it may or may not be the one we think is right. Scripture bears that out..

Certainly Habakkuk was frustrated. However, I do think we can study and understand what constitutes "justice", and God is on the side of justice.

God allowed the Jews to be slaves in Isreal for Generations.... To the Pharaoh he said "For this purpose I have raised you up"..

(08-13-2012 09:54 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Only governments want war.

This ^. Also add in war profiteers and you've nailed it. If it wasn't in the name of religion, it would be in the name of something else.

(08-14-2012 08:54 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(08-13-2012 09:54 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Only governments want war.

This ^. Also add in war profiteers and you've nailed it. If it wasn't in the name of religion, it would be in the name of something else.

This point is acknowledged and addressed in my responses. Reread them to find my answer

(08-14-2012 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 04:10 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:45 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:38 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:29 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Stonings included?

You don't like justice?

It should be no surprise that I reject the biblical depictions of justice, especially when it comes to such punishment.

No, it's not a surprise. What's a surprise is that you actually think you have a better approach to justice.

If atheists are by definition, amoral, I don't see where agnostics have any other choice either.

Do you believe that Old Testament justice was moral?

Honestly...I think the OT is a bunch of hogwash. I don't pay it any attention at all. I told my pastor this. You know what he said? "Honestly..I also have a hard time with a lot of it." THIS is why I continue to attend church. I admire honesty.

(08-14-2012 06:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:43 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:45 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:38 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  You don't like justice?

It should be no surprise that I reject the biblical depictions of justice, especially when it comes to such punishment. I suspect you take the bible more literally and so accept stoning as godly justice in the appropriate biblical context.

Make sure you don't wear clothing of two different fabrics or touch the skin of a deceased pig or else you'll get stoned.

I don't think any sensible people advocate for old testament law in modern times. The question posed is whether or not, within the biblical context, those people who were stoned for such offenses were in fact the recipients of appropriate and moral justice.

I say no, that it was barbarism and superstition, no better than burning women for alleged witchcraft.

Tell that to the people who oppress homosexual rights.

Muslims?

(08-15-2012 06:27 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 06:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:43 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 03:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-14-2012 02:45 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  It should be no surprise that I reject the biblical depictions of justice, especially when it comes to such punishment. I suspect you take the bible more literally and so accept stoning as godly justice in the appropriate biblical context.

Make sure you don't wear clothing of two different fabrics or touch the skin of a deceased pig or else you'll get stoned.

I don't think any sensible people advocate for old testament law in modern times. The question posed is whether or not, within the biblical context, those people who were stoned for such offenses were in fact the recipients of appropriate and moral justice.

I say no, that it was barbarism and superstition, no better than burning women for alleged witchcraft.

Tell that to the people who oppress homosexual rights.

Muslims?

All of the above.

LoL...The gays have it so hard here in the US.

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.