(07-28-2012 03:38 PM)Yankee Runner Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 03:26 PM)GCEagle Wrote:  LOL at UTSA fans talking smack. You better hope and pray that you never play ECU or USM. It will get ugly. Quick.

I'm not talking smack about us beating anybody. About 3/4 of CUSA will definitely put 50 points on us before the first half. Especially ECU and Southern Miss. Then your 2nd and 3rd string will come out the second half and put another 50 points on us. So what? It happens, but it won't happen forever. That's what my post was about, try working on your reading comprehension.

No conference will want a team that regularly gets beat by 50 points, moron. So take your bucket of chicken and go back to the kiddy table where you belong.

(07-27-2012 11:21 PM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  BB was quoted in a recent article that recent expansion was based on schools in metro markets. Obviously, ODU was an exception and was a move to satisfy ECU in an effort to reduce costs in the olympic sports.

Not even close to being true. ODU's home metro population is Top 40 in the U.S., right between those of Indianapolis and Nashville:

http://proximityone.com/metros0010.htm

(07-28-2012 03:49 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 03:26 PM)GCEagle Wrote:  LOL at UTSA fans talking smack. You better hope and pray that you never play ECU or USM. It will get ugly. Quick.

UTSA should get a pretty good idea of what they will be up against in CUSA when they visit Ruston this year

I don't get the "you will see" comments. We already know LaTech is gonna beat us, and likely a blow out. Who is disputing that? Most of us already have a very good idea of what we are up against.

(07-28-2012 02:38 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  

MU_ATO Wrote:Memphis hoops was the ONLY major loss to CUSA. Losing a hoops program like Memphis would be a major blow to any conf.

UCF, SMU, & Houston are hardly losses. TV markets that have already been replaced. Their athletic programs had their moments but not exactly dominant in any way shape or form.

You're making it out to be as if we'll be worse off. The Big East in basketball will be more or less the same as it was before the losses of Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia with Memphis and Temple and with SMU as well as UH starting to pull in major recruits (plus UCF has facilities but they still have to prove some things). The nBE will still send 7-10 teams to the Dance and there are more chances for quality wins than there ever was in C-USA, where there was 3-4 chances in a given year (and to some, one).

nBE football is basically C-USA 1.0 but that's better than C-USA 3.0. Louisville and Cincinnati has improved their programs to BCS caliber since they left, South Florida and Rutgers have shown flashes of brilliance, UConn has been at least as good as, say, ECU. Houston has picked up it's recruiting as well as UCF, Boise is coming in as a perennial top 25 program while Temple and Memphis at least are moving in the right direction.

It's not the SEC but it's more than a combination of solid markets.

I didn't imply anything other than what I said. CUSA still has a solid core and other than losing Memphis basketball it's as if nothing has changed. 1 sport. Period.

Nice try up talking up the Big East especially the part about SMU, Houston, and UCF hoops have some great impact that would make up for losing Pitt, Syracuse and WVU hoops. Memphis almost makes up for Syracuse in basketball but not quite. The rest combined dont eclipse WVU, Pitt or Syracuse on their own. I also enjoyed the UCONN-ECU comparrison. That was hilarious. Oh and the flash of what was it... "brilliance" from Rutgers & South Florida. All of the descriptions you give are great and all but no matter how many adjectives you use to describe the current and future Big East it still doesn't change the fact that CUSA lost a single sport power. Still have the best football teams. Still have the best baseball teams. Still have the best basketball teams minus Memphis. The TV markets lost to the Big East have already been replaced plus some. These are facts and not just feel good descriptions.

Disgusting.

(07-28-2012 03:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 02:38 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  

MU_ATO Wrote:Memphis hoops was the ONLY major loss to CUSA. Losing a hoops program like Memphis would be a major blow to any conf.

UCF, SMU, & Houston are hardly losses. TV markets that have already been replaced. Their athletic programs had their moments but not exactly dominant in any way shape or form.

You're making it out to be as if we'll be worse off. The Big East in basketball will be more or less the same as it was before the losses of Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia with Memphis and Temple and with SMU as well as UH starting to pull in major recruits (plus UCF has facilities but they still have to prove some things). The nBE will still send 7-10 teams to the Dance and there are more chances for quality wins than there ever was in C-USA, where there was 3-4 chances in a given year (and to some, one).

nBE football is basically C-USA 1.0 but that's better than C-USA 3.0. Louisville and Cincinnati has improved their programs to BCS caliber since they left, South Florida and Rutgers have shown flashes of brilliance, UConn has been at least as good as, say, ECU. Houston has picked up it's recruiting as well as UCF, Boise is coming in as a perennial top 25 program while Temple and Memphis at least are moving in the right direction.

It's not the SEC but it's more than a combination of solid markets.

LOL, don't waste your time rationalizing with MU_ATO. Dude is insanely butthurt, and will say anything to save face/allow him to sleep at night. It's been that way ever since we Sandusky'ed Marshall for 3 quarters, then put our second and third strings in, and even they outscored them. It has only gotten worse since we received our invite.

I doubt there is a thread on this board that mentions UH that he hasn't made the same, tired "TV market" comments in.

(07-28-2012 01:32 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  Have fun being a TV market in the Big East.

$$$ure thing :)

Youre such a d0uche. Feel free to go back to football season you whiny birch and see who was "butthurt". Your crying ass about the mean old Marshall football team making comments. You cried like the wussy boy you are. Since then you've cried about Marshall ever since. You've even been called out on it since then.

The TV market comments are facts. Houston is as irrelevant as any other garden variety CUSA team minus their TV market. You think you got into another conf based on what? Your spectacular basketball team? Your epic failure of a football team? Your outstanding fan support? Only your twisted pea brain thinks its anything but Houston's geographic location.

Please enlighten us.

(07-28-2012 03:58 PM)GCEagle Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 03:38 PM)Yankee Runner Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 03:26 PM)GCEagle Wrote:  LOL at UTSA fans talking smack. You better hope and pray that you never play ECU or USM. It will get ugly. Quick.

I'm not talking smack about us beating anybody. About 3/4 of CUSA will definitely put 50 points on us before the first half. Especially ECU and Southern Miss. Then your 2nd and 3rd string will come out the second half and put another 50 points on us. So what? It happens, but it won't happen forever. That's what my post was about, try working on your reading comprehension.

No conference will want a team that regularly gets beat by 50 points, moron. So take your bucket of chicken and go back to the kiddy table where you belong.

Gosh you are dumb son. Never did I say that the SEC will extend us an invite next year, after we lose most of our games by 30+. Not sure how I can make it any more clear, a 5 year old gets my point.

And sorry to inform you, but southern Miss has been sitting at the kiddy table since 1978. So basically, a 1 year old baby is sitting at the kiddy table with a 34 year old grumpy woman. Who is out of place? Hell, there is even an unborn fetus sitting with you. Other babies came, sat down, ate the cheerios that you bought, then left for the adult table before they hit their teens. All you can do is ***** about how you can easily beat the babies, before they mature. Ain't you the big boss

Is a UTSA fan talking ****? Lulz

(07-28-2012 12:47 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 12:15 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss.

I feel sorry for what happened to UofH. It felt like I was in a foreign country for the championship game. Lots of girls wearing burkas and a bunch of -------.

Now I know where the band gets it from

edit: how come the word illegals was dashed out in my reply, but still remains in this tool's original post?

Eh, there are some racist USM fans but most of us are decent.

Perhaps C-USA should add go ahead and add Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Florida Atlantic, Appalaichan State and Delaware to the East.

And Texas State, Troy, Arkansas St, New Mexico State and Louisiana-Lafayette to the West.

Two 12 team divisions with good geography. C-USA becomes the premiere league in the SW/SE/Atlantic Coast behind the power conferences.

(07-28-2012 04:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Perhaps C-USA should add go ahead and add Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Florida Atlantic, Appalaichan State and Delaware to the East.

And Texas State, Troy, Arkansas St, New Mexico State and Louisiana-Lafayette to the West.

Two 12 team divisions with good geography. C-USA becomes the premiere league in the SW/SE/Atlantic Coast behind the power conferences.

(07-28-2012 12:47 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 12:15 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss.

I feel sorry for what happened to UofH. It felt like I was in a foreign country for the championship game. Lots of girls wearing burkas and a bunch of -------.

Now I know where the band gets it from

edit: how come the word illegals was dashed out in my reply, but still remains in this tool's original post?

I tried to clean the nonsense up. Originally, I missed it.

(07-28-2012 04:41 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 04:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Perhaps C-USA should add go ahead and add Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Florida Atlantic, Appalaichan State and Delaware to the East.

And Texas State, Troy, Arkansas St, New Mexico State and Louisiana-Lafayette to the West.

Two 12 team divisions with good geography. C-USA becomes the premiere league in the SW/SE/Atlantic Coast behind the power conferences.

It's interesting that it's the university presidents who are pushing the issue. The reasons could be just about anything or any combination of things, but you gotta think the driving force is either fear of more defections or just flat-out setting up a Plan B for 5-10 years down the road.

I'm certainly not privy to the pertinent hard data, but intuitively, the only things that add value at this point are expanding the footprint within reason and/or bringing in targeted TV markets (I hate saying the latter, but it is what it is).

The things that make the most sense under the above criteria are a) going after the Front Range MWC schools should that conference take another blow, b) adding a couple more metro schools in the Eastern Time Zone, or c) some combination of both. With the exception of MTSU, it's hard to see where any more Sun Belt schools advance either footprint or TV. There are a few traditional MAC schools who would be pretty good fits otherwise, but their positive effects on the bottom line are questionable.

The only thing that would just totally piss me off would be expanding beyond 18, which could happen if we rush into "b" before "a" is off the table. CUSA shouldn't jump into anything until at least Boise State's situation is resolved.

Why is C-USA in expansion mood again? Why add more bottom feeders to this conference if we're not getting a raise in our TV deal? This conference is going the way of the WAC-16, a beast that had no identity with schools with different missions and culture. Maybe an airport meeting will be inevitable in the next few years.

I was C-USA's biggest defender for many years but I can't really defend or support something anymore that's becoming a monstrousity like the WAC-16. I would LOVE for UTEP to go to the MWC, I know I'm in the minority here since most UTEP fans have a hard on for the new C-USA but for God's sake, I hope this conference stops expanding just for the sake of adding TV markets. I'm still interested in preserving our relationship with Tulsa and Rice but other than that, I don't really care about C-USA anymore.

(07-28-2012 04:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Perhaps C-USA should add go ahead and add Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Florida Atlantic, Appalaichan State and Delaware to the East.

And Texas State, Troy, Arkansas St, New Mexico State and Louisiana-Lafayette to the West.

Two 12 team divisions with good geography. C-USA becomes the premiere league in the SW/SE/Atlantic Coast behind the power conferences.

Nah, what we need are more West Coast schools only joining for one sport.

(07-28-2012 03:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  LOL, don't waste your time rationalizing with MU_ATO. Dude is insanely butthurt, and will say anything to save face/allow him to sleep at night. It's been that way ever since we Sandusky'ed Marshall for 3 quarters, then put our second and third strings in, and even they outscored them. It has only gotten worse since we received our invite.

Not cool. You can come up with a better "we beat you bad" comparison than child rape.

(07-28-2012 03:31 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  I would feel bad for UTEP, but the Miners have an easy out. They can join the MWC tomorrow.

CUSA should "gift" UTEP to the MWC.

That's where they should be.

(07-28-2012 04:55 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why is C-USA in expansion mood again? Why add more bottom feeders to this conference if we're not getting a raise in our TV deal?

Because, as Banowsky says, there is strength in numbers.

(07-28-2012 03:22 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 03:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 02:38 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  You're making it out to be as if we'll be worse off. The Big East in basketball will be more or less the same as it was before the losses of Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia with Memphis and Temple and with SMU as well as UH starting to pull in major recruits (plus UCF has facilities but they still have to prove some things). The nBE will still send 7-10 teams to the Dance and there are more chances for quality wins than there ever was in C-USA, where there was 3-4 chances in a given year (and to some, one).

LOL, don't waste your time rationalizing with MU_ATO.

Rationalizing? LOL. Caltex did the nothing but rationalize big east basketball. Memphis is a good replacement for Syracuse (although not their equal). No one replaces Pitt, their one bad year notwithstanding. Temple is solid. UCF is a NIT team in a good year. And UH and SMU were long-time C-USA bottom-feeders who he rationalizes with "Stepped up recruiting" (SMU got some transfers and stuff but nothing close to elite high schoolers). Of course it's still a quality hoops league.

First off, UH was a bottom feeder in the first version of C-USA basketball, the last year notwithstanding, but was an RPI top-100 team every year of C-USA 2.0 except 2009-10 when they actually made the NCAA Tournament anyway. UH beat ranked teams, was on the NCAA bubble a couple times, made four postseason appearances and was even was ESPN's Weekly Watch Team of the Week once. Until 2010, their lowest finish in C-USA 2.0 was fifth.

And if you hadn't noticed, UH has a top 15 recruiting class coming in, which means nothing until the program proves it on the court but it shows the talent level is rising as the Big East has come calling. Throw in the renovation of Hofienz Pavilion and it's clear to see UH is coming back to life after a couple of transition years (Dickey inherited little from Penders and the players who were here didn't all fit).

SMU is more of a mystery but they are improving facilities and have a big name coach.