Unemployment will increase as medium and large sized corporations absorb the additional costs. The tax increases baked into the law will be highlighted and become a bigger campaign issue now that it certain they will begin as legislated January 1, 2013. Obama cannot use the SCOTUS ruling as a campaign issue to gain support.

Of course he will... Obama wil point to this and policy all the time trying to distance themselves from the economy. Everytime something is brought up about potential negative imapct on the economy of Obamacare, he will say how much more important the social aspect of it are.

This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

(06-28-2012 09:35 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Unemployment will increase as medium and large sized corporations absorb the additional costs. The tax increases baked into the law will be highlighted and become a bigger campaign issue now that it certain they will begin as legislated January 1, 2013. Obama cannot use the SCOTUS ruling as a campaign issue to gain support.

That's not a bright side. You guys aren't looking at the BIG picture. For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Goddamned living. They can now force you to buy ANY fuken thing. Romney getting elected is going to fix it? Roberts stupid ass was a Gdamn Bush appointee. R and D. All the fuken same. Progressive pieces of fly-covered dog sh*t.

(06-28-2012 09:59 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:35 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Unemployment will increase as medium and large sized corporations absorb the additional costs. The tax increases baked into the law will be highlighted and become a bigger campaign issue now that it certain they will begin as legislated January 1, 2013. Obama cannot use the SCOTUS ruling as a campaign issue to gain support.

That's not a bright side. You guys aren't looking at the BIG picture. For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Goddamned living. They can now force you to buy ANY fuken thing. Romney getting elected is going to fix it? Roberts stupid ass was a Gdamn Bush appointee. R and D. All the fuken same. Progressive pieces of fly-covered dog sh*t.

Is it limited to "buying" or would this include any kind of activity.

(06-28-2012 10:03 AM)I45owl Wrote:  Is it limited to "buying" or would this include any kind of activity.

Actually by the ruling it could be "any kind of activity" that congress passes... I think people were just using the "buying" option for ease of explanation.

Ayn Rand was a Gdamn genius. Stick a fork in us. This nation is done.

Democrats now plan to tax you if you buy bacon.

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

(06-28-2012 10:10 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Democrats now plan to tax you if you buy bacon.

I already pay taxes when I buy bacon.

(06-28-2012 09:59 AM)Rebel Wrote:  For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Goddamned living. They can now force you to buy ANY fuken thing.

That is a disturbing precedent. On the other hand, the Court did explicitly reject the Commerce Clause argument as a justification for this, and explicitly declared it to be a tax. Politically, that will put Congress in a small box for future power-grabs, because they will have to sign up for a tax-increase in order to do something like this.

Quote:Romney getting elected is going to fix it?

If Obama is re-elected, you will be stuck with ObamaCare for the rest of your life. Choose wisely.

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

Here's what's known: The president lied about it not being a tax.

Repeatedly, shamelessly lied.

Barak Obama.
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid

Pants.

On.

Fire.

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

No fear of the unknown at all.

It's knowledge that the population won't respond by doing nothing, and that will result in unintended consequences. And that knowledge is pretty certain, not unknown at all, because that's what has happened every time.

I can assure you that I will not respond by trusting my own health care to the Obamacare system in the future. Not sure exactly what I am going to do, but I know I'm not going to trust what emerges here. There are several interesting avoidance possibilities, and I will just wait to see which one develops best.

(06-28-2012 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

No fear of the unknown at all.

It's knowledge that the population won't respond by doing nothing, and that will result in unintended consequences. And that knowledge is pretty certain, not unknown at all, because that's what has happened every time.

I can assure you that I will not respond by trusting my own health care to the Obamacare system in the future. Not sure exactly what I am going to do, but I know I'm not going to trust what emerges here. There are several interesting avoidance possibilities, and I will just wait to see which one develops best.

You finally going to move away? Tell us which liberty-embracing countries you're considering since America has become a bastion of communists.

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

Said the two who want to legislate every tiny aspect of life.

(06-28-2012 11:51 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

Said the two who want to legislate every tiny aspect of life.

Said the idiot.

(06-28-2012 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This will be interesting. Lawmakers almost always assume a static state, that people will simply comply with the law and it will have no unintended consequences. In actuality, that almost never happens. What will be interesting to see is what unintended consequences do occur. There will be some, and they will be significant, of that we can be certain.

Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

No fear of the unknown at all.

It's knowledge that the population won't respond by doing nothing, and that will result in unintended consequences. And that knowledge is pretty certain, not unknown at all, because that's what has happened every time.

I can assure you that I will not respond by trusting my own health care to the Obamacare system in the future. Not sure exactly what I am going to do, but I know I'm not going to trust what emerges here. There are several interesting avoidance possibilities, and I will just wait to see which one develops best.

Start with eating right and getting regular exercise.

I'm not kidding.

Your healthcare may be out of your hands, but your health isn't.

(06-28-2012 11:51 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 11:51 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 11:25 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 10:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Typical right-wing tactic - when all else fails, tell people to be afraid of the unknown.

It isn't really a "tactic". THey fear the unknown by nature.

Very true.

Said the two who want to legislate every tiny aspect of life.

Said the idiot.

Don't get so hostile when I call you out for your blatant hypocrisy. It's not like you're even trying very hard to hide it anymore.