Dennis Dodd nailed it with this paragraph right here on the new state of College Football:

Removing labels doesn't remove the reality. A playoff probably lessens access for the sport's unwashed. At least makes it more uncertain. That selection committee? Its composition will have to reflect that the Big East is no longer considered a BCS-level conference. The ACC has become less of a factor. That Big Four -- Pac-12, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 -- are calling the shots. To be precise, the commissioners of those leagues are calling the shots.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...he-problem

It is what it is.

Cue Sagarin, RPI ,DMA charts and commence to Dennis Dodd bashing.

And now that the playoff structure has been decided, let the chaos begin...

(06-27-2012 06:20 AM)Maize Wrote:  Dennis Dodd nailed it with this paragraph right here on the new state of College Football:

Removing labels doesn't remove the reality. A playoff probably lessens access for the sport's unwashed. At least makes it more uncertain. That selection committee? Its composition will have to reflect that the Big East is no longer considered a BCS-level conference. The ACC has become less of a factor. That Big Four -- Pac-12, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 -- are calling the shots. To be precise, the commissioners of those leagues are calling the shots.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...he-problem

It is what it is.

Yep the big 4 set themselves up, and didn't even need to go to 16 teams each.

We don't know all of the rules, yet, so some of this is a bit premature.

I think they need to come up with the criteria for both the playoff and the process for how to select teams for the other 4 "BCS" games and then apply those criteria publically to previous years so there can be debate and openess about the process.

The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

Just remember that exclusive clubs tend to get more exclusive, not less so...

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

The ACC will still be in the Orange Bowl. The question is what happens when a 12-1 ACC champion is compared to a 11-1 or 11-2 Big 12 or SEC or Big Ten runner-up for the fourth semifinal spot. Magic 8-ball says...ask again later.

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

If it's going to bite the ACC in the rear, what will it do to the Big East? Surely not treat it better considering that the "BCS" still views the ACC as higher on the rung.

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

I think 10% of your posts on this board are specifically trying to make people believe this fantasy.

Great line from the article:

Never mind that the Fiesta has done more than its share for the BCS by taking/having to take Boise, TCU, Connecticut, Pittsburgh and Utah over the years. (And yes, I know UConn and Pittsburgh were from BCS leagues, but if you don't see the similarity, turn in your fan card.)

Of the 12 spots, The ACC in most years would get at least 2. They got 2 last year out of 10 spots.

(06-27-2012 07:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

I think 10% of your posts on this board are specifically trying to make people believe this fantasy.

2007 would have been tricky. Other than Ohio State it's tough to say for sure who would have been automatic locks for the other slots.

It's not a fantasy, hokie. The ACC under-performed during the BCS era. The ACC put itself in this position, and have nobody to blame, but themselves...

(06-27-2012 07:56 AM)EERSFAN Wrote:  Great line from the article:

Never mind that the Fiesta has done more than its share for the BCS by taking/having to take Boise, TCU, Connecticut, Pittsburgh and Utah over the years. (And yes, I know UConn and Pittsburgh were from BCS leagues, but if you don't see the similarity, turn in your fan card.)

He is referring to a Pitt team that was 8-4. A 10-2 Pitt team is in the 6 BCS bowls, no problem.

(06-27-2012 07:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

I think 10% of your posts on this board are specifically trying to make people believe this fantasy.

What fantasy?

2007-
Ohio St- VT would not finish ahead of them. period.
LSU- 48-7? Enough said
Oklahoma coming off demolition of #1 Missouri and with same record- enough said
USC in a period where they had been to BCS bowls 5 straight years and had same record.. I don't think so VT.

The only one that is remotely debatable is USC.

That's not a fantasy at all...

(06-27-2012 07:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

I think 10% of your posts on this board are specifically trying to make people believe this fantasy.

What fantasy?

2007-
Ohio St- VT would not finish ahead of them. period.
LSU- 48-7? Enough said
Oklahoma coming off demolition of #1 Missouri and with same record- enough said
USC in a period where they had been to BCS bowls 5 straight years and had same record.. I don't think so VT.

The only one that is remotely debatable is USC.

That's not a fantasy at all...

How many ACC teams were in the BCS last year?

(06-27-2012 07:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:19 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  The ACC has an automatic qualifier into the 6 BCS bowls (Orange Bowl). How does that hurt the ACC?

That could be called a crumb going to the ACC.

I think the fact that it's going to be a selection committee is going to wind up biting the ACC in the rear end a lot. 2007 VT wouldn't have gotten in- and they're the only one that would be close the last 10 years.

I think 10% of your posts on this board are specifically trying to make people believe this fantasy.

What fantasy?

2007-
Ohio St- VT would not finish ahead of them. period.
LSU- 48-7? Enough said
Oklahoma coming off demolition of #1 Missouri and with same record- enough said
USC in a period where they had been to BCS bowls 5 straight years and had same record.. I don't think so VT.

The only one that is remotely debatable is USC.

That's not a fantasy at all...

What about Georgia and (to a lesser extent) Kansas? USC's loss to a terrible Stanford team (one of the biggest upsets ever) may have kept them out.

(06-27-2012 07:57 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Of the 12 spots, The ACC in most years would get at least 2. They got 2 last year out of 10 spots.

Now that's a fantasy..

4 playoff teams- most years from the true 4 power conferences
4 teams for Rose/Champions bowl- from the true 4 power conferences
1 acc team

There's only 3 other spots. most years it'll go to another SEC, Big Ten team, and then 1 from any of the other 4 power conferences.