(06-02-2012 10:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-02-2012 09:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  You can have all the spirit you want, but when Obama makes it impossible for a US company to compete in global markets, I don't think many are going to stay around to run themselves into bankruptcy. And there are several proposals on his wish list that have the ability to do precisely that.
I'll ask my standard two questions for the left, that nobody has answered satisfactorily:
1. Let's assume hypothetically that I am looking to build a plant to manufacture a product for sale worldwide. The plant will cost $100 million to build and will employ 3,000 people. Why should I build it in the US? Assume whatever additional facts you need.
2. If you can't convince me to build it here, how does our economy recover?

Sure. 1) who in the world is going to buy the end product. Who has the money? Will the US create tariffs that make it more expense to sell in the US.
2) security. When you build this plant, is the govt going to be stable enough for you to produce goods that you will eventually sell to Americans?

Well, if nobody has the money I won't build it anywhere, so that point is moot. As for any US tariff, if the tariff is less than or equal to the cost differential in the US, then it doesn't hurt me. If it's greater than, then WTO is going to get involved and the US tariff is going to be ruled illegal.

Security and stability used to be the big US calling card. But after GM, and with Obama making noises about taxes and Chuckie Schumer making noise about going after people who leave the US for tax avoidance purposes, political risk here is not looking nearly as good as it used to. As long as we are the reserve currency, we still have an edge for currency risk. But that's another edge we are losing.

Bottom line--nobody is going to locate here for the reasons you have given.

(06-02-2012 09:35 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  I've heard an interesting story told in various forms since 2008 that chemical weapons were supposedly brought into South America/Venezuela from the Middle East as part of a plot to smuggle them into the US.

The weapons got as far as Mexico when an informant inside one of the Cartels tipped the US off and the weapons were intercepted.

Haven't seen anything in the Media about it, except some bits and pieces about some US cross-border ops into Mexico, Drone Ops, etc.

I almost totally forgot. You are the one with your Israeli propagandist...I mean informant. I laugh whenever your "informant tells you this crap since it never turns out to be true and yet, you still buy into it. On with your tin foil hat.

(06-02-2012 09:39 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2012 09:25 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  And we buy their exports. Whatever we lose we can make up.

firm I like ya but I just don't think you get the inter-connectivity that exists between our economy and Europe's. You don't just make up losing a huge chunk of 25% of your exports. If Spain, Italy and Greece go into the tank then it will have dramatic impacts to us.

Google it and read up.

I bought a big jar of stuffed spanish olives imported from Spain. Just trying to do my part to help keep Spain afloat. :)

Btw, they are damn good.