(05-28-2012 04:23 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'm making nothing up. It has happened to me. The only absurdity is coming from someone who says it doesn't happen. I find it amusing that you talk about Jewish people making jokes about themselves and ignore the jokes that black people make about themselves

What the hell are you talking about? Blacks make jokes about themselves all the time, what the f*ck does that have to do with this at all?

Quote:"you people" Has become a meme in movies

That's what humor is; it takes the ordinary daily occurrences and amplifies them to poke fun at their inconsistencies/absurdity. The fact that this happens in movies actually proves my point that it really doesn't happen in real life.

(05-28-2012 04:40 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 02:47 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 09:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Exactly smn. I will miss the quite, but MLK said something about judging people by the quality of their character, not the color of their skin... Yet here today... Blacks are among the first to judge people by the color of their skin rather than the quality of their character. If a black man says "n", it's fine... If a white man does, even as a similar term of endearment... Of "cool".., it is a slight... Because of the color of the speaker. Look at the term "boy". Aren't there black people who are boys? The question is, am I intending to slight you when I say it. If I am, then it shouldn't matter if I call you boy or "n" or Trixie... It's an insult.

Yeah, it is so unfair, I mean it's not as if I can in anyway comprehend why blacks would be more touchy towards racially insensitive terms than the average person. It's been like a whole 60 years since they've finally been guaranteed the right to vote/learn/work/etc, I mean, come on! I don't get upset when someone says mick despite the fact there's a decent chance my great-great-great-great-great grandparents might have faced some slight discrimination until they assimilated into our culture, COME ON BLACK PEOPLE GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Get over yourself. What are we? Nine? Mommy, he called me a name!! I know i used the same word to dscribe my best friend 5 minutes ago, but tHIS guy is different from me.

Their sensitivity is not my problem. I'm not responsible for how you interpret something. I'm only responsible for how I mean it. You'll notice thy nobody has written "n" on here, though it is certainly prevalent in culture... But nobody has a problem writing redneck or honky or cracker. MOSTLy because while certainly insulting, and often intended as such... They are merely words. Who cares

Get over myself? You do realize a black man in alabama the age of my father would remember being forced to drink in different fountains and go to different schools? This isn't some far off thing that happened hundreds of years ago, this is something that PEOPLE ALIVE LIVED THROUGH. You compare me to a child, yet you're throwing a hissy-fit because a race which was literally not equal in the eyes of the law in much of the country until ~60 years ago is more sensitive than you towards racism? Jesus christ man, I know it must hurt to be called a cracker, for all the vitriol it carries (lol), but there is an inherent difference between the two, and it's one that anyone with an elementary grasp of history can comprehend.

You don't care about being called a cracker, not because 'it's just words', but because your living relatives can't recount stories of being hosed by police and arrested for not moving to the back of a bus, all the while being called cracker by those in power. It's just a word to you, because it doesn't carry any literal meaning to you or I.

Quote:1. That's stereotyping, remember how you libs hate that? But now it's OK.

2. Do you ever see Holocaust humor among Jews?

1. Again, keep getting your information from the media, and you'll continue to be old + out of touch with reality. It's obvious you haven't the slightest idea what a 'liberal' thinks or believes, considering most comedians are decidedly liberal, and they make their f*cking living on that sort of thing.

2. Yep.



I find this thread increasingly hilarious though, as it becomes more and more obvious that the people commenting on what would or wouldn't be able to be shown due to PC-ness have no idea about any current comedy and the state of their humor. The fact is, the only thing that is drawing the line for most comedians/television/movies is the mostly conservative backed regulations on obscenity, not politically correctness gone awry.

(05-28-2012 07:09 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:40 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 02:47 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 09:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Exactly smn. I will miss the quite, but MLK said something about judging people by the quality of their character, not the color of their skin... Yet here today... Blacks are among the first to judge people by the color of their skin rather than the quality of their character. If a black man says "n", it's fine... If a white man does, even as a similar term of endearment... Of "cool".., it is a slight... Because of the color of the speaker. Look at the term "boy". Aren't there black people who are boys? The question is, am I intending to slight you when I say it. If I am, then it shouldn't matter if I call you boy or "n" or Trixie... It's an insult.

Yeah, it is so unfair, I mean it's not as if I can in anyway comprehend why blacks would be more touchy towards racially insensitive terms than the average person. It's been like a whole 60 years since they've finally been guaranteed the right to vote/learn/work/etc, I mean, come on! I don't get upset when someone says mick despite the fact there's a decent chance my great-great-great-great-great grandparents might have faced some slight discrimination until they assimilated into our culture, COME ON BLACK PEOPLE GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Get over yourself. What are we? Nine? Mommy, he called me a name!! I know i used the same word to dscribe my best friend 5 minutes ago, but tHIS guy is different from me.

Their sensitivity is not my problem. I'm not responsible for how you interpret something. I'm only responsible for how I mean it. You'll notice thy nobody has written "n" on here, though it is certainly prevalent in culture... But nobody has a problem writing redneck or honky or cracker. MOSTLy because while certainly insulting, and often intended as such... They are merely words. Who cares

Get over myself? You do realize a black man in alabama the age of my father would remember being forced to drink in different fountains and go to different schools? This isn't some far off thing that happened hundreds of years ago, this is something that PEOPLE ALIVE LIVED THROUGH. You compare me to a child, yet you're throwing a hissy-fit because a race which was literally not equal in the eyes of the law in much of the country until ~60 years ago is more sensitive than you towards racism? Jesus christ man, I know it must hurt to be called a cracker, for all the vitriol it carries (lol), but there is an inherent difference between the two, and it's one that anyone with an elementary grasp of history can comprehend.

You don't care about being called a cracker, not because 'it's just words', but because your living relatives can't recount stories of being hosed by police and arrested for not moving to the back of a bus, all the while being called cracker by those in power. It's just a word to you, because it doesn't carry any literal meaning to you or I.

Quote:1. That's stereotyping, remember how you libs hate that? But now it's OK.

2. Do you ever see Holocaust humor among Jews?

1. Again, keep getting your information from the media, and you'll continue to be old + out of touch with reality. It's obvious you haven't the slightest idea what a 'liberal' thinks or believes, considering most comedians are decidedly liberal, and they make their f*cking living on that sort of thing.

2. Yep.



I find this thread increasingly hilarious though, as it becomes more and more obvious that the people commenting on what would or wouldn't be able to be shown due to PC-ness have no idea about any current comedy and the state of their humor. The fact is, the only thing that is drawing the line for most comedians/television/movies is the mostly conservative backed regulations on obscenity, not politically correctness gone awry.

That was weak.

What was weak? It was a holocaust joke in a major motion picture made in the past 5 years. It makes it impossible to argue that that sort of humor doesn't exist.

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(05-28-2012 04:23 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'm making nothing up. It has happened to me. The only absurdity is coming from someone who says it doesn't happen. I find it amusing that you talk about Jewish people making jokes about themselves and ignore the jokes that black people make about themselves

What the hell are you talking about? Blacks make jokes about themselves all the time, what the f*ck does that have to do with this at all?

Wow. You accused me of fabricating things. That what I am describing doesn't really happen. I said I haven't fabricated anything, what about that is unclear to you? The part about jokes is merely an "and 1"

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[quote]"you people" Has become a meme in movies

That's what humor is; it takes the ordinary daily occurrences and amplifies them to poke fun at their inconsistencies/absurdity. The fact that this happens in movies actually proves my point that it really doesn't happen in real life.
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Once again... It isn't funny if it doesn't bear a resembled e to the truth... Meaning while the movies may make it absurd, it certainly is true... To say it is proof that it DOESnT happen flies in the face of reality. If the greatest leapers in sports weren't generally black rather than white, the meme about "white men can't jump" wouldn't be funny. If nerds didn't generally like star wars, then the big bang theory wouldn't be funny.

FTR, i don think I've complained about fairness. I just don't like being lied to and manipulated. More on this later

(05-28-2012 07:09 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  [quote='Hambone10' pid='7940712' dateline='1338241250']
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Get over myself? You do realize a black man in alabama the age of my father would remember being forced to drink in different fountains and go to different schools? This isn't some far off thing that happened hundreds of years ago, this is something that PEOPLE ALIVE LIVED THROUGH. You compare me to a child, yet you're throwing a hissy-fit because a race which was literally not equal in the eyes of the law in much of the country until ~60 years ago is more sensitive than you towards racism? Jesus christ man, I know it must hurt to be called a cracker, for all the vitriol it carries (lol), but there is an inherent difference between the two, and it's one that anyone with an elementary grasp of history can comprehend.

And I have friends whose fathers were tortured and killed by the koreans and Vietnamese, and my grandfather was a prisoner of the nazis. The grandparents of many Jews I know we're killed by the nazis... Does that mean it's okay for me or them to judge people of German or vietnamese descent by the actions of their ancestors rather than their own character? Or would that be racist?

Quote:You don't care about being called a cracker, not because 'it's just words', but because your living relatives can't recount stories of being hosed by police and arrested for not moving to the back of a bus, all the while being called cracker by those in power. It's just a word to you, because it doesn't carry any literal meaning to you or I.

As I said... If "n" is so offensive, then why is it so embraced? If they (those who are supposedly offended for their ancestors) are so Worried about the feelings of their parents, whyndomthey use it themselves. I understand you want this to be true (that they are offended) so you (and they) can control people like me, but the fact is, they clearly aren't offended by the word... And/ or, don't care about their parents or grandparents history.

(05-28-2012 07:54 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  What was weak? It was a holocaust joke in a major motion picture made in the past 5 years. It makes it impossible to argue that that sort of humor doesn't exist.

You just typed "that that"...LOL. Sorry but that's funny. Almost as funny as saying I "do do" in a sentence.

To summarize UCF08's position on slang/racial insults:
1. Any racial references to whites are no big deal. They are something to be laughed about or shrugged off since whites are in the majority. Racial insults to whites simply doesn't carry the gut-wrenching impact of racial insults toward blacks. So STFU whitey and take it.
2. The same applies to Jewish people since they are so self-depreciating and some movies have Holocaust jokes. I once saw a fight break out between a Jewish person and another guy because the guy asked what the difference was between a Jew and a pizza. I am sure UCF08 would be LOL at the answer but the guy got a smashed nose.
3. HOWEVER, any racial reference to blacks is a MAJOR line to cross and should be severely dealt with immediately. What blacks say to each other is of no consequence, whites and other non-blacks do not have any special permission to use similar words to a black. It is about respecting historical sensitivities.

Yes, that is clearly an accurate and non-skewed version of what I said. I am a non-stop white apologist who thinks our drivers licenses should say "Cracker" instead of "Caucasian"

(06-01-2012 11:25 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Yes, that is clearly an accurate and non-skewed version of what I said. I am a non-stop white apologist who thinks our drivers licenses should say "Cracker" instead of "Caucasian"

Thanks for the clarification, but we didn't really need it. Your comments pretty much speak for themselves.

lol right

(06-01-2012 12:24 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  lol right

LOL, and thanks for taking it in good humor. When I see a grapefruit in the middle of the strike zone, I can't help but swing at it.

Marion Barry is still alive?....there is no justice in this world.

You'd think he would have faded into obscurity after 'that b*tch set him up'

(06-01-2012 01:25 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You'd think he would have faded into obscurity after 'that b*tch set him up'

It's Washingtoon, DC, what did you expect?

Not a whole lot.