(04-16-2012 12:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 11:50 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I would agree that ECU is ahead of the Sun Belt programs, but not by as far as Pirate fans would claim. If you put ECU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, Troy, stAte, Louisiana, and FIU all together you would have a great group of football teams. That would be one hell of a lineup to build a league around.

Only thing I'll say about stAte and ULL is that they have to prove not only that they can repeat the success of last year, but that they will be able to do it consistently, and sustain it through coaching changes that will inevitably happen. I'm not saying they won't or can't, but it's just one of those things you have to prove. I hope both do.

Yep, no denying that.

(04-16-2012 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 12:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 11:50 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I would agree that ECU is ahead of the Sun Belt programs, but not by as far as Pirate fans would claim. If you put ECU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, Troy, stAte, Louisiana, and FIU all together you would have a great group of football teams. That would be one hell of a lineup to build a league around.

Only thing I'll say about stAte and ULL is that they have to prove not only that they can repeat the success of last year, but that they will be able to do it consistently, and sustain it through coaching changes that will inevitably happen. I'm not saying they won't or can't, but it's just one of those things you have to prove. I hope both do.

Yep, no denying that.

And it's hard not to be impressed with what you guys have done. At least by all appearances hit a home run by getting Gus and appear to be making huge strides. I hope it continues. In no way am I rooting against Sun-Belt schools. In general I support all non-AQ's improving themselves, and my major frustration is with those who don't appear who be doing everything within their power to be successful. You guys certainly appear to be doing that now and that's what all need to be doing.

(04-16-2012 10:43 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Point of clarification, UTSA playing in the WAC this year is similar to USA playing in the SBC, yes they're playing WAC schools, but they aren't actually playing "conference games" until 2013.

What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:43 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Point of clarification, UTSA playing in the WAC this year is similar to USA playing in the SBC, yes they're playing WAC schools, but they aren't actually playing "conference games" until 2013.

What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Probably because you can't compete for a league title or a bowl game.

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:43 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Point of clarification, UTSA playing in the WAC this year is similar to USA playing in the SBC, yes they're playing WAC schools, but they aren't actually playing "conference games" until 2013.

What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Not sure how it works for UTSA, but USA's games this year count toward deciding the conference championship.
We just aren't eligible for the conference title or bowl consideration.

If yall are in the same boat, then I would say we are both playing "conference" games.

(04-16-2012 02:49 PM)Dedsquirrl Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:43 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Point of clarification, UTSA playing in the WAC this year is similar to USA playing in the SBC, yes they're playing WAC schools, but they aren't actually playing "conference games" until 2013.

What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Not sure how it works for UTSA, but USA's games this year count toward deciding the conference championship.
We just aren't eligible for the conference title or bowl consideration.

If yall are in the same boat, then I would say we are both playing "conference" games.

Correct

(04-16-2012 02:59 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 02:49 PM)Dedsquirrl Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:43 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Point of clarification, UTSA playing in the WAC this year is similar to USA playing in the SBC, yes they're playing WAC schools, but they aren't actually playing "conference games" until 2013.

What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Not sure how it works for UTSA, but USA's games this year count toward deciding the conference championship.
We just aren't eligible for the conference title or bowl consideration.

If yall are in the same boat, then I would say we are both playing "conference" games.

Correct

Seconded

(04-16-2012 02:49 PM)Dedsquirrl Wrote:  Not sure how it works for UTSA, but USA's games this year count toward deciding the conference championship.
We just aren't eligible for the conference title or bowl consideration.

If yall are in the same boat, then I would say we are both playing "conference" games.

That's what I think too.

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Oh are we still considering the WAC to be an FBS Conference?

(04-16-2012 04:56 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 01:00 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  What do you mean? Why aren't UTSA games against WAC teams "conference games"?

Oh are we still considering the WAC to be an FBS Conference?

This is probably the last year, if I had to guess.

(04-16-2012 11:40 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 11:38 AM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 11:31 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  It's amazing how quickly UTSA & UNCC think they can jump up to the bigtime before ever touching the football field

1) UTSA "touched a football field" last season.

2) I, for one, think UTSA would be better off playing the WAC or Sun Belt for the next 5. It seems to me (like you are hinting at) that UTSA is moving too fast. In the next 3 years UTSA football is going to take beat downs that it might take a long time to recover from. = /

I meant divison 1 football and it would be better like you said to build up your program in the Sun Belt

If Tech joins the Sun Belt there will be a slight bit of irony in this statement.