(04-13-2012 07:49 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  when he doesn't play much at this little known, never hardly heard of D2 place, he will be out of basketball in a year or two

Hillsdale is a top D2 college and probably has a better roster than the NIU.

oh yeah, a real powerhouse--they did not make the 64 team D2 National Championship tourney so they are, at best, the 65th best D2 team in the country....

as for their roster, little zach will have much trouble there if they are that good...but, doubtful they are very athletic....

(04-13-2012 07:49 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  when he doesn't play much at this little known, never hardly heard of D2 place, he will be out of basketball in a year or two

Wait. How can you say that it is little known? Have you never listened to Mark Levin(conservative talk show host)?

(04-13-2012 01:00 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 12:46 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  I never understand why people care where the talent comes from...If NIU is good with a bunch of Michigan players, I won't care.

It's a lot like the Illini fans focusing on Chicago....who cares? There are a lot of big cities that churn out talent. Just get it from somewhere.

It's about the pipelines created to the high schools. If/when MM leaves for (MSU) GREENer pastures, some/many/all of those MI pipelines will close up without him at NIU. In-state pipelines would not close up as easily and have a far better chance of remaining open with a new coaching staff.

I'm not convinced. It's all about the coach. All coaches/staffs have some kind of pipeline and I don't care where they come from if they are good.

I don't think the location of the pipelines matter anywhere near as much as the coach/staff.

Brad Waller. One of the greats. I was going to bring him up -- for the young uns here.

BW did not come to NIU from HS. He transfered in.

(04-14-2012 07:22 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  Brad Waller. One of the greats. I was going to bring him up -- for the young uns here.

I wouldn't call Waller one of the greats. Very good shooter, but just an average ballhandler and not a good defender. One-dimensional player.

BTW, Waller started his college career at Cincinnati.

(04-14-2012 12:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 07:49 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  when he doesn't play much at this little known, never hardly heard of D2 place, he will be out of basketball in a year or two

Wait. How can you say that it is little known? Have you never listened to Mark Levin(conservative talk show host)?



Tough talk from somebody who hangs on Rachel Maddow's every insane thought.

no, why would anyone listen to a conservative talk show host? Never heard of him or this midling D2 school.

(04-14-2012 08:47 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  no, why would anyone listen to a conservative talk show host? Never heard of him or this midling D2 school.

I can use a good laugh at the end of a long day at work.

Btw, you too can go to that school. THey offer a free coure on the "Constitution".

(04-14-2012 11:27 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-14-2012 08:47 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  no, why would anyone listen to a conservative talk show host? Never heard of him or this midling D2 school.

I can use a good laugh at the end of a long day at work.

Btw, you too can go to that school. THey offer a free coure on the "Constitution".

I don't know what youa re smoking, but my ultra liberal Obama lovin' niece is a student at Hillsdale and she loves the place. Lot of kids there from the western suburbs. As a D2 school they are pretty decent in football and have a couple of guys in the NFL draft watch list. Also the alma mater of former Packer placekicker Chester Marcol.

It's an unfortunate situation, hopefully the last thing Patton does to this program (recruiting Miller who from the start nobody believed could play on this level).

I'm sure Montgomery should have handled it better, we'll never know the full story, probably both parties at fault. But its over and done, let the Montgomery era fully begin, all his guys.

17 huskie, they are his guys except for Nixon, Bolin and Christian.

Hillsdale is a very good school. Don't accept government money but all financial needs are met through other means. One of the few schools where you get a true "liberal arts" education.

wow, out of the mainstream much? hope Zach enjoys the right wing indoctrinaton.....Sincerely doubt there is any "liberal" in the liberal arts program.

"Hillsdale’s modern rise to prominence occurred in the 1970s. On the pretext that some of its students were receiving federal loans, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare attempted to interfere with the College’s internal affairs, including a demand that Hillsdale begin counting its students by race. Hillsdale’s trustees responded with two toughly worded resolutions: One, the College would continue its policy of non-discrimination. Two, "with the help of God," it would "resist, by all legal means, any encroachments on its independence."

Following almost a decade of litigation, the U.S. Supreme Court decided against Hillsdale in 1984. By this time, the College had announced that rather than complying with unconstitutional federal regulation, it would instruct its students that they could no longer bring federal taxpayer money to Hillsdale. Instead, the College would replace that aid with private contributions."

(04-14-2012 01:46 PM)niutwo two Wrote:  17 huskie, they are his guys except for Nixon, Bolin and Christian.

Right, I meant more that regardless of who recruited them, if players make it through a season with a coach, things must be ok. You often see players leave right after a coaching change and the 1st season after the coaching change.

(04-14-2012 09:45 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  wow, out of the mainstream much? hope Zach enjoys the right wing indoctrinaton.....Sincerely doubt there is any "liberal" in the liberal arts program.

"Hillsdale’s modern rise to prominence occurred in the 1970s. On the pretext that some of its students were receiving federal loans, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare attempted to interfere with the College’s internal affairs, including a demand that Hillsdale begin counting its students by race. Hillsdale’s trustees responded with two toughly worded resolutions: One, the College would continue its policy of non-discrimination. Two, "with the help of God," it would "resist, by all legal means, any encroachments on its independence."

Following almost a decade of litigation, the U.S. Supreme Court decided against Hillsdale in 1984. By this time, the College had announced that rather than complying with unconstitutional federal regulation, it would instruct its students that they could no longer bring federal taxpayer money to Hillsdale. Instead, the College would replace that aid with private contributions."

Glad someone backed me up on this and I am not the one smoking illegal substances. Only thing I can think of is 79's niece is a libertarian not an ultra liberal and 79 is confused by the difference.