(04-04-2012 10:44 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote: Hambone I think you are approaching where I ended with Max. He will ignore or distort the points you make to suit his purpose and then, when you call him out on it, he'll just resort to insulting you and calling you stupid. Being the Obama sycophant he is that is the inevitable conclusion.
You make some great points. Keep it up.
Hope springs eternal. I'd honestly like to have a lucid discussion with someone who disagrees with me without it devolving into lunacy. We have a board like that on the Rice page, but because we all generally know and respect each other, and it is difficult to vehemently disagree without risking hurting friends feelings, we rarely get into meangful disputes
Max... To sum up your responses... You have an opinion as to why people who disagree with your position do so, and while it might not represent the majority, or even a meaningful number... If it represents one, it proves your point and can be applied to all. In your mind, the seventeen other stated reasons are the minority, and the one that paints your opponents as greedy, stupid, liars is the majority. Not exactly intelligent adult discourse.
Ok, if you don't agree with everything Obama says, then don't bring up romneycare as proof that republicans are being hypocritical. 90% of us have NEVER cast a vote for office for Romney... And even those that DID vote for him in a primary may have had other reasons, just like you.
Bringing up McCain was merely an attempt to show how two similar intentions could result in entirely different approaches. This is where your comics fall short. In the same way a Maserati and Chevy are both cars with many similarities, obviously close enough for your charts... Wheels, check... Engine, check... On a checklist, they will grade out very closely... But that doesn't mean you would be indifferent between the,. The point is, sometimes it is some pretty small differences that make a world of difference. Put leather on a Tahoe, it's still not an Escalade
Back to the point... You realize that insurance isn't healthcare, right? Obamacare doesnt force people to go to the doctor... To get healthcare. It forces them to buy insurance for something you also argue is a basic fundamental right... If it is a right, then yes... The government must defend it. It can't charge you (other than through taxes) for Protecting your basic Constitutional rights. That is their job. Obamacare keeps trying to argue both sides... It's a tax, but it's not... It's a right, but it's not...