(05-30-2012 01:28 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:05 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:54 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:35 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:26 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  what are u talking about? All CUSA champ games have had major sponsors including Xbox, Mcdonalds, etc. Whether its at a neutral site or not isn't going to effect sponsorship money. Thats CUSA. Imagine the type of sponsorship a big east champ game could get.

Ad sponsors like CUSA has are only a portion of the sponsorship revenue. A neutral site gives more time to set up more corporate events and give the conference the revenue from ticket and luxury box sales. More events means more $$. More luxury box sales means more $$.

Maybe if you are the SEC...but not if you are the Big East...as no neutral site, city and stadium will risk BUYING/sponsoring that game in which both teams could be 1,000-2,000 miles away...and may not win their division till just 6-7 days prior to the Championship Game...hence why the Big East, just like Pac-12 and CUSA, are using the #1 "seed" as their Championship Game site.

Also, Pac-12 Championship Game last year had major sponsors in Dr Pepper and UPS...as even winning Coach Chip Kelly gave them a NASCAR shout-out in his post-game comments:

No doubt. Which is why I agree that for the BE an on-campus site is the best, but I was just trying to give a reason why a neutral site *could* be preferred, but only from a money-grubbing perspective. Sponsors will be all over the game for ad spots no matter where it's played. I wasn't doubting that aspect at all. I was only suggesting that the overall conference had potential to make more money from a neutral site, but I agree that it is a bad idea for the teams and the fans.

9 out of 10 times...the Big East Conf can make a lot more money playing in a guaranteed SOLD OUT campus/home stadium of the #1 team vs most neutral site situations. (Heck, most Big East Schools OWN their own stadium....so zero $$$ in "stadium rental" would be needed...only teams like USF, SDSU, Memphis and Temple (all have very favorable leases...much cheaper than renting a neutral site one-off game) would have direct extra stadium costs if they hosted a Championship Game.

IIRC, Indy PAYS the B1G to host their CCG, not the other way around. I am sure the ACC and SEC have similar deals. There wouldn't be any rental fee, but there would be a loss of revenue. And the sold out stadium would only benefit the home team, not the conference as a whole. UCF has luxury boxes, but they're not going to sell them to others if they host a CCG. Luxury box sales are far more valuable than regular seat sales and the BE would likely get none of that revenue if hosted on-campus. The home team would, though. So it would greatly benefit the home team to host on campus. Even if the conference took half of the ticket sales $$, it wouldn't make half as much as a neutral site would. That's all I'm saying. I want the CCG at home because I'm a fan and it's a better experience for the fans and the conference's geography does not lend itself to a neutral site game that would be well-attended - which would reflect poorly on the conference even if they do make more $$.

Do USF, SDSU, and Temple play home games on the Saturday before an NFL game? Also, when does the NFL start playing Saturday games? I'm wondering if we might have a conflict eventually on scheduling a champ game on short notice.

(05-30-2012 02:14 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  And the sold out stadium would only benefit the home team, not the conference as a whole.

Believe you are quite mistaken in regards to how Conf Championship Game Revenue is divided up (between the conf and the 2 teams participating).

(05-30-2012 03:07 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 02:14 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  And the sold out stadium would only benefit the home team, not the conference as a whole.

Believe you are quite mistaken in regards to how Conf Championship Game Revenue is divided up (between the conf and the 2 teams participating).

From what I understand, the home team splits a certain amount of ticket sales with the conference (50-50 is what I heard CUSA takes from the CCG). Any sort of luxury box sales stays with the home team. If you have any different information, I would love to know.

(05-30-2012 03:12 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 03:07 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 02:14 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  And the sold out stadium would only benefit the home team, not the conference as a whole.

Believe you are quite mistaken in regards to how Conf Championship Game Revenue is divided up (between the conf and the 2 teams participating).

From what I understand, the home team splits a certain amount of ticket sales with the conference (50-50 is what I heard CUSA takes from the CCG). Any sort of luxury box sales stays with the home team. If you have any different information, I would love to know.

All Game Day Revenue is "shared" with the Conf...as the Conf runs the game (sets the ticket prices, etc...).

The "home team" doesn't have to travel..plus they enjoy the benefit of playing in front of their own fans (home field advantage, which sometimes helps...but not always).

(05-30-2012 03:00 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Do USF, SDSU, and Temple play home games on the Saturday before an NFL game? Also, when does the NFL start playing Saturday games? I'm wondering if we might have a conflict eventually on scheduling a champ game on short notice.

The NFL doesn't play on Saturdays anymore except for special circumstances (e.g. they usually play a game on the Saturday before Christmas) and those circumstances wouldn't apply during the first weekend in December. Even then, you can't discount Thursday night or Friday night as potential championship game dates in order to avoid the glut of games on Saturday (which is why the Pac-12 plays their championship game on Friday night)

(05-30-2012 12:45 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Disagree when it comes to a league like Big East or ACC. The big 10 can get away with it because they are the big 10. A neutral site for our league would be a disaster in all respects and certainly a money loser. There just isn't enough public interest for a neutral site big east championship be it corporate or local fan support.

ACC lost money on its champ game when it was in tampa.

The ACC championship game has actually sold tickets well with Charlotte as the site, which makes sense since that's really the center for the conference. The irony of FSU fans complaining about Tobacco Road right now is that the ACC played the football conference championship game in Florida locations for several years in order to appease FSU and Miami, yet people didn't show up. Now that the game is being played in Charlotte (where it should have been in the first place), it's doing well.

(05-30-2012 04:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 03:00 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Do USF, SDSU, and Temple play home games on the Saturday before an NFL game? Also, when does the NFL start playing Saturday games? I'm wondering if we might have a conflict eventually on scheduling a champ game on short notice.

The NFL doesn't play on Saturdays anymore except for special circumstances (e.g. they usually play a game on the Saturday before Christmas) and those circumstances wouldn't apply during the first weekend in December. Even then, you can't discount Thursday night or Friday night as potential championship game dates in order to avoid the glut of games on Saturday (which is why the Pac-12 plays their championship game on Friday night)

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