New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

(03-07-2012 08:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

Please let me know when you join the B12 and play 9 conference games anyway so I can laugh at your whining for nothing.

(03-07-2012 08:55 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-07-2012 08:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

Please let me know when you join the B12 and play 9 conference games anyway so I can laugh at your whining for nothing.

Playing 9 conference games in the Big XII is far more preferable than 9 games in the ACC. At least most years we would have more than 2 interesting conference home games, and we wouldn't be in a conference with a team that hasn't had a winning season in 17 years or hasn't been in the final polls since 1962.

(03-07-2012 09:07 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(03-07-2012 08:55 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-07-2012 08:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

Please let me know when you join the B12 and play 9 conference games anyway so I can laugh at your whining for nothing.

Playing 9 conference games in the Big XII is far more preferable than 9 games in the ACC. At least most years we would have more than 2 interesting conference home games, and we wouldn't be in a conference with a team that hasn't had a winning season in 17 years or hasn't been in the final polls since 1962.

??? you want all that travel to Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, WVU and Iowa??

(03-07-2012 09:07 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(03-07-2012 08:55 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-07-2012 08:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

Please let me know when you join the B12 and play 9 conference games anyway so I can laugh at your whining for nothing.

Playing 9 conference games in the Big XII is far more preferable than 9 games in the ACC. At least most years we would have more than 2 interesting conference home games, and we wouldn't be in a conference with a team that hasn't had a winning season in 17 years or hasn't been in the final polls since 1962.

If you are going to go, then I wish you just would. It gets old hearing how superior Clemson is to all the rest of us. You obviously deserve more than our lowly conference. I hope for your sake it happens soon.

(03-07-2012 08:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  New question.



Since the ACC is responsible for the cluster foxtrot that is 9 game conference schedules, is the ACC going to foot the bill for buying out of the OOC series because of the dumb*** 9 game conference slate?

$500k to buy out the UGA series.

I think the reason why the ACC is going to a 9 game schedule is to get more $$$ from ESPN. It will obviously increase the number of "good" games that ESPN will be getting so they were probably the one to suggest this.
Perhaps Syracuse might be able to take some of the games off of your hands. We had scheduled to play Boston College on a regular basis (every year) and Georgia Tech is an upcoming series so since that will be a conference game it will mean that we need a few out of conference games. I am sure Kent State would be acceptable to the AD as it is in Ohio which is a good recruiting area for us. I am sure the AD wouldn't mind taking Georgia off of your hands too but not if we have to pay $500K

(02-14-2012 12:39 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(02-14-2012 12:18 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  While I may be throwing stones at a glass house here. But why do you need to rely on fans traveling to "Death Valley" to have a sell out? I'd be priding myself on making sure 0 fans from an opponents school shows up.

When fans are excited enough about their program to go to away games it generally shows the school has dedicated itself to having a quality football program. Do you think UNC would have averaged 5 wins a year for the past decade with their resources if they took 10k fans on the road for every game? What about the bowl tie-ins? Do you think that we would be in Shreveport at all if we as a conference showed we could travel? When bowl scouts are at games and there are 1-2k opposing fans in a stadium how inclined do you think they are to invite that team?

Part of what makes the SEC great is the fact that from top to bottom the schools support their team. I've been to UK @ South Carolina games where neither team was close to bowl eligibility and UK still traveled in huge numbers, far greater than the majority of crowds we have seen in the past from Tabakky Rd and UVA. I'm being as honest as I can be when I say that there was no appreciable difference this year between the crowd that Wofford (enrollment 1500) brought than the one that UNC brought (enrollment 28k).

Syracuse will not bring many fans for football games but for basketball there will be a large contingent of Syracuse fans coming to ACC arenas.
Syracuse was number one in the Big East for basketball fans visiting opposing arenas. I guess whenever the football program turns it around then perhaps there may be more interest but right now the football program needs a bit of help.

(03-08-2012 02:42 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  Syracuse will not bring many fans for football games but for basketball there will be a large contingent of Syracuse fans coming to ACC arenas.
Syracuse was number one in the Big East for basketball fans visiting opposing arenas. I guess whenever the football program turns it around then perhaps there may be more interest but right now the football program needs a bit of help.

That's well and good, but basketball attendance doesn't improve the football product, and the football product is where the big money is going to come from.

A tip fot he hat for you because unlike the rest of the Syracuse contingent around here who keep saying Syracuse will make an attendance impression yu at least admit the truth.

(03-08-2012 11:20 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(03-08-2012 02:42 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  Syracuse will not bring many fans for football games but for basketball there will be a large contingent of Syracuse fans coming to ACC arenas.
Syracuse was number one in the Big East for basketball fans visiting opposing arenas. I guess whenever the football program turns it around then perhaps there may be more interest but right now the football program needs a bit of help.

That's well and good, but basketball attendance doesn't improve the football product, and the football product is where the big money is going to come from.

A tip fot he hat for you because unlike the rest of the Syracuse contingent around here who keep saying Syracuse will make an attendance impression yu at least admit the truth.

The added basketball attendance
will not help the football product but it will add extra $$$ to the athletic budget at these schools so that certainly helps the bottom line at the schools so they can use this added revenue to improve their athletic facilities.

Say Clemson and Louisville are added to the Big XII... Your Division will more than likely look like this; Clemson, Louisville, WVU, Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State. If you're saying that this is more appealing than the current ACC, then kudos you're in a better place!

(03-09-2012 01:22 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Say Clemson and Louisville are added to the Big XII... Your Division will more than likely look like this; Clemson, Louisville, WVU, Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State. If you're saying that this is more appealing than the current ACC, then kudos you're in a better place!

Good point. That division would really STINK! Better the [Blue] Devils you know than the [Big 12 North/East Basketball-dominated] Devils you don't know.

(03-08-2012 11:20 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(03-08-2012 02:42 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  Syracuse will not bring many fans for football games but for basketball there will be a large contingent of Syracuse fans coming to ACC arenas.
Syracuse was number one in the Big East for basketball fans visiting opposing arenas. I guess whenever the football program turns it around then perhaps there may be more interest but right now the football program needs a bit of help.

That's well and good, but basketball attendance doesn't improve the football product, and the football product is where the big money is going to come from.

A tip fot he hat for you because unlike the rest of the Syracuse contingent around here who keep saying Syracuse will make an attendance impression yu at least admit the truth.

We had 5000 at Chapel Hill in 2003 (IIRC)...we will travel decently. We have tons of alumni and Central NYers who have relocated along I-85/95 corridors. If Cuse starts winning more consistently we will do ok...certainly better than most northern ACC teams. Syracuse has a fairly large "T-shirt fan base" as the school is the de facto pro team for Central NY.