There is nothing badass about that little football stadium, I did check it out. That is not a D-1 football stadium. If they are serious candidates I hope they plan to build a real stadium. They are 3 hrs from G'ville, that will be a home game for us and we will seriously take that little place over. It's not bragging if you can and do

(01-21-2012 08:29 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  This below an excerpt from an 80 year old North Texas Exes (and a true gentleman) who has seen UNT play in 3 different on-campus stadiums since the 1940's (and 5 stadiums if you count Texas Stadium & the Cotton Bowl stadium at Fair Park where we had played games, too); this gent who lives in Dallas and who was responding to another SBC alum as far as UNT versus FIU for a possible expansion candidate if there is an expansion of membership at all (which I really don't think there will be this go around).

Also, he is speaking of possible expansion schools who are all presently playing at the FBS level.

"Admittedly, I don't know or understand the purpose of the alliance set-up is but it seems that it will lose a lot in terms of NCAA basketball revenue distribution if it is only one league. From what I read, it hasn't been determined whether the merger is football only or for all sports nor for how many teams will be involved.

I don't know who North Texas' friends or enemies are but my perception is definitely different than yours. Your argument that we would get no support from the west because there's no recruiting advantage since we don't play one another. Then wouldn't the opposite be also true? Why would they vote against us since we don't play? We were in a conference with Tulsa for a dozen or so years and got along just fine. I would expect their support. You might have a valid argument about Tulane (and maybe Rice) if the other school being considered were private but it appears to me that only public universities are being considered. Furthermore, I have doubts that Rice would pick a Florida college over one in Texas for a conference partner. It's a given that ECU would prefer FIU over us but I'm not that sure about the others. Denton, Texas is exactly 18 miles further from Huntington, WV than Miami. They (ECU) also understand that there aren't other qualified candidates in their area. They might have to hold their nose but if enough are for us then I don't believe that they would remain against us. Denton is even closer to Birmingham than Miami and I don't believe that they would feel strongly about accepting or rejecting us.

Maybe it's just a sign of the times but I don't understand how you choose a school with seven years of FBS play (FIU) over one with forty years (UNT), especially when the older school has a better winning percentage. The larger one is in a larger metro area, TV market and is better located for the (Alliance) universities involved. I guess politics is just dirty at any level."

Because we'd like to have a Florida presence for recruiting. We already have all the Texas we need. Tell that to the old fart on your way out the door.

(01-21-2012 07:45 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:42 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:35 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  Here you go...the Big East 2.0. (save yourselves the bucks that flying westward ho' will create and a much better region for these schools).

The Big A (tlantic) Conference

Marshall (Yes They Are)!
ECU (an eastern seaboard giant who will show the Big East what they are missing)
GSU (their time has finally come)
ODU (with their $100M athletic budget "or is it revenue" and a Big A natural)
App. State (Loretta Lynn sings coal miners daughter pre-game, half time and post game at its Big A debut game
Temple U (Oh yes, those Philly sandwiches)
Ohio (gotta' talk em' out of leaving the MAC)
University of Buffalo http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/fball/index
ONE LAST SURPRISE:
The La Tech Bulldogs! Bring a touch of jambalaya, crawfish pie and mint julep to a very cold, snowy league and then they can say "FREE! FREE! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY! WE'RE FREE AT LAST (and they'd be free from the WAC which will no longer exist, of course)

Does this Big A Conference make sense? Probably as much as half the other cookie cutter leagues being tossed around most loosely.

And if Craig Thompson really was the brainchild behind the MWC's present (terrible) TV conference package for such a (I'm serious) prestigous league, he should be fired immediately from this very Alliance which he thought would save his job.

Brit Banowsky still has his eyes on the Big 12 job, is not focussed on this Alliance whatsoever( except by lipservice) and Brit won't take his eyes off the Big 12 job till he gets that job--now or later).

I now...... take a bow!

I know....pure conference-creating brilliance!

Is it now time for CUSA/MWC Map--3'rd Attempt?

I'd say it's time for one irrelevant ******* to lose CUSA posting privileges for about 8 years.

(01-22-2012 01:44 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  There is nothing badass about that little football stadium, I did check it out. That is not a D-1 football stadium. If they are serious candidates I hope they plan to build a real stadium. They are 3 hrs from G'ville, that will be a home game for us and we will seriously take that little place over. It's not bragging if you can and do

You sound like an arrogant lil prick. You sure you aren't a Who or Mickey Mouse U fan.

I believe if you read this thread everyone that has brought ODU up has said the football stadium would need a major expansion. For a school who didn't play a game of college football from 1941-2008 they are doing pretty good. Season tix sold out, with a waiting list, with a 27-8 record.

Am I advocating them no, but they look a lot more attractive with a ton more potential than some on the list.

(01-22-2012 02:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:45 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:42 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:35 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  Here you go...the Big East 2.0. (save yourselves the bucks that flying westward ho' will create and a much better region for these schools).

The Big A (tlantic) Conference

Marshall (Yes They Are)!
ECU (an eastern seaboard giant who will show the Big East what they are missing)
GSU (their time has finally come)
ODU (with their $100M athletic budget "or is it revenue" and a Big A natural)
App. State (Loretta Lynn sings coal miners daughter pre-game, half time and post game at its Big A debut game
Temple U (Oh yes, those Philly sandwiches)
Ohio (gotta' talk em' out of leaving the MAC)
University of Buffalo http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/fball/index
ONE LAST SURPRISE:
The La Tech Bulldogs! Bring a touch of jambalaya, crawfish pie and mint julep to a very cold, snowy league and then they can say "FREE! FREE! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY! WE'RE FREE AT LAST (and they'd be free from the WAC which will no longer exist, of course)

Does this Big A Conference make sense? Probably as much as half the other cookie cutter leagues being tossed around most loosely.

And if Craig Thompson really was the brainchild behind the MWC's present (terrible) TV conference package for such a (I'm serious) prestigous league, he should be fired immediately from this very Alliance which he thought would save his job.

Brit Banowsky still has his eyes on the Big 12 job, is not focussed on this Alliance whatsoever( except by lipservice) and Brit won't take his eyes off the Big 12 job till he gets that job--now or later).

I now...... take a bow!

I know....pure conference-creating brilliance!

Is it now time for CUSA/MWC Map--3'rd Attempt?

I'd say it's time for one irrelevant ******* to lose CUSA posting privileges for about 8 years.

Oh, MUther, MUther, MUther, what are we going to do with all you coal miners anyway?

Yet....WE ARE TEXAS! The world's 13'th largest economy and well, uh, your state and its people are like a scene out of "The Grapes of Wrath."

North Texas, with the single most largest DFW Metroplex constituency of any other Texas university (including UT/TAMU) along with its #5 ranked TV market can take or leave this little clam bake, ie, a conference whose staying power will be about the same as the WAC 16.

Our future will be dictated by the market we're located and that will be sooner than later Yet we are in no hurry or desperate to do anything now as some other schools seem to be. At some point some posters on this board will understand why SMU with few wins and average attendance the last 2 1/2 decades were asked to join the Big East.

I really can understand the envy some schools have because they are not located in a large metro area, but the NCAA and ESPN for certain know the importance of these large Nielsen ratings gold mines more than some posters on this message board seem to or maybe they do but just don't want to admit it.

And should expressing an opinion get one kicked off a conference smack board? Some of us merely respond tit for tat what is dished out to us, so you that are doing the dishing out need to be able to handle the counter-points, too.

(01-22-2012 03:35 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(01-22-2012 02:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:45 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:42 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 07:35 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  Here you go...the Big East 2.0. (save yourselves the bucks that flying westward ho' will create and a much better region for these schools).

The Big A (tlantic) Conference

Marshall (Yes They Are)!
ECU (an eastern seaboard giant who will show the Big East what they are missing)
GSU (their time has finally come)
ODU (with their $100M athletic budget "or is it revenue" and a Big A natural)
App. State (Loretta Lynn sings coal miners daughter pre-game, half time and post game at its Big A debut game
Temple U (Oh yes, those Philly sandwiches)
Ohio (gotta' talk em' out of leaving the MAC)
University of Buffalo http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/fball/index
ONE LAST SURPRISE:
The La Tech Bulldogs! Bring a touch of jambalaya, crawfish pie and mint julep to a very cold, snowy league and then they can say "FREE! FREE! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY! WE'RE FREE AT LAST (and they'd be free from the WAC which will no longer exist, of course)

Does this Big A Conference make sense? Probably as much as half the other cookie cutter leagues being tossed around most loosely.

And if Craig Thompson really was the brainchild behind the MWC's present (terrible) TV conference package for such a (I'm serious) prestigous league, he should be fired immediately from this very Alliance which he thought would save his job.

Brit Banowsky still has his eyes on the Big 12 job, is not focussed on this Alliance whatsoever( except by lipservice) and Brit won't take his eyes off the Big 12 job till he gets that job--now or later).

I now...... take a bow!

I know....pure conference-creating brilliance!

Is it now time for CUSA/MWC Map--3'rd Attempt?

I'd say it's time for one irrelevant ******* to lose CUSA posting privileges for about 8 years.

Oh, MUther, MUther, MUther, what are we going to do with all you coal miners anyway?

Yet....WE ARE TEXAS! The world's 13'th largest economy and well, uh, your state and its people are like a scene out of "The Grapes of Wrath."

North Texas, with the single most largest DFW Metroplex constituency of any other Texas university (including UT/TAMU) along with its #5 ranked TV market can take or leave this little clam bake, ie, a conference whose staying power will be about the same as the WAC 16.

Our future will be dictated by the market we're located and that will be sooner than later Yet we are in no hurry or desperate to do anything now as some other schools seem to be. At some point some posters on this board will understand why SMU with few wins and average attendance the last 2 1/2 decades were asked to join the Big East.

I really can understand the envy some schools have because they are not located in a large metro area, but the NCAA and ESPN for certain know the importance of these large Nielsen ratings gold mines more than some posters on this message board seem to or maybe they do but just don't want to admit it.

And should expressing an opinion get one kicked off a conference smack board? Some of us merely respond tit for tat what is dished out to us, so you that are doing the dishing out need to be able to handle the counter-points, too.

No. You posted your drivel without anyone mentioning UNT. You tried to hijack this thread as you did the other one. This isn't some imagined retaliation for something a CUSA fan posted. This isn't the smack board. This is OUR discussion board. The mods have placed a warning at the top of this forum stating that schools shall not come here and promote entrance into CUSA, where we can discuss the issues but have no bearing on any decision made in that regard anyway. You are NOT WANTED NOT WANTED NOT WANTED. So go back to the great state of Texas where you are also apparently not wanted and get back to being irrelevant. You can post anything you want about UNT and your school may even get an invite someday. But don't post it here. Send letters to the CUSA office or whatever. We don't care. We're talking about who we'd like to invite. And right now you are not it.

If you need a tissue you can ask Kitkat or Tallgrass or LouisKitton or whatever he's calling himself these days.

I live in Virginia Beach and let me tell you guys, ODU would be fantastic. They have a very rabid fanbase and they will have to expand their stadium for football because theey sell it out already

(01-22-2012 01:44 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  There is nothing badass about that little football stadium, I did check it out. That is not a D-1 football stadium. If they are serious candidates I hope they plan to build a real stadium. They are 3 hrs from G'ville, that will be a home game for us and we will seriously take that little place over. It's not bragging if you can and do

You won't take over that "little place" when they have a 3 year waiting list for season tickets.

As for a earlier post, Southern Miss is not in Texas and you don't come anywhere remotely close to filling our guest sections.

(01-22-2012 05:35 AM)Oceana Tiger Wrote:  I live in Virginia Beach and let me tell you guys, ODU would be fantastic. They have a very rabid fanbase and they will have to expand their stadium for football because theey sell it out already

I think they plan to tear down the "clamshells" and build out to 40k.

(01-22-2012 03:35 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  I really can understand the envy some schools have because they are not located in a large metro area, but the NCAA and ESPN for certain know the importance of these large Nielsen ratings gold mines more than some posters on this message board seem to or maybe they do but just don't want to admit it.

What is there to envy about North Texas. UNT has 7 consecutive losing seasons. That would be 2-9, 3-9, 2-10, 1-11, 2-10, 3-9, 5-7. Thats an 18-65 record in the last 7 years to go back even futher you have 3 winning seasons in the last 20 years. Going back to 1975 UNT has a whopping 14 winning seasons. You all went to 4 bowls in the early 2000s, WoW. One of them you had to get a waiver from the NCAA because you had what...A losing record. BTW your basketball sucks also.

And you done all that without the death penalty....I think Id rather have to have the death pealty as an excuse.

I want what's best for C-USA football, period. I'm looking at this from 30 years following college football. Do you really believe that TV networks are going to look at an upstart like ODU and throw money into a TV contract? East Carolina is accused of being a regional draw and we travel heavy and sell out 50k every Saturday. If we aren't moving the TV meter do you really believe ODU, who is so regional people in other parts of Virginia don't know they exist, is the answer? Va is VT and UVA crazy, ODU isn't even a blip. You think that is C-USA's football answer? That is all I am saying. The idea behind the merge is strength in numbers and a much better TV deal for all involved. The conference needs a school that can sell TV time, ODU, really?

I would not worry about it. You're not going to have to take any FCS schools. Hopefully though the powers that be are lookiing years forward and not considering schools with $15 million budgets or FBS attendance of 15k. More than likely it will be Utah State and FIU

Well, thanks a lot folks. Not just one, but two threads moved to the smack boards.

Hey Mods! Instead of moving threads to the smack board, how about banning the trolls from non-CUSA schools when they get out of line?

(01-22-2012 06:14 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Well, thanks a lot folks. Not just one, but two threads moved to the smack boards.

Hey Mods! Instead of moving threads to the smack board, how about banning the trolls from non-CUSA schools when they get out of line?

AMEN. This was a good thread until that UNT ******* got involved....AGAIN.

(01-22-2012 06:14 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Well, thanks a lot folks. Not just one, but two threads moved to the smack boards.

Hey Mods! Instead of moving threads to the smack board, how about banning the trolls from non-CUSA schools when they get out of line?

Tiger,

Do you mind starting another thread on regular board with the map again along with one with the highly sought and next in line schools for possible expansion.

(01-22-2012 12:14 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  You guys are serious about ODU? Are we going to only play them in DFS? They can't accomidate the number of Pirates that would flood that tiny little stadium. It doesn't even seat a full 20k. One side of DFS is more than that and in '16 we're going up to 58k. One huge thing that has to be taken into consideration is facilities, and I'm saying that for selfish reasons, because we travel well and fill up the visitors sections of the stadiums we visit and then some, if you're not in Texas that is. If they are a serious candidate I hope they have a serious facility upgrade plan because when the Pirates come to town we are going to own that stadium.

ODU needs a serious facility upgrade? Are you serious? Take a look at these facilities and explain to me how that is so. Be sure and click on "Photo Gallery" under each facility to see different angles of what they have.

http://www.odusports.com/ot/oldd-new-facilities.html


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(01-22-2012 08:14 PM)ECUgradstudent Wrote:  

(01-22-2012 06:14 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Well, thanks a lot folks. Not just one, but two threads moved to the smack boards.

Hey Mods! Instead of moving threads to the smack board, how about banning the trolls from non-CUSA schools when they get out of line?

Tiger,

Do you mind starting another thread on regular board with the map again along with one with the highly sought and next in line schools for possible expansion.

Yes ...a third one should do the trick..LOL

Someone else can start it. Until the mods run some of these non-CUSA trolls off this board, a third thread would end up in smack with the other two.

Good luck with that idea... After a thread reaches 100 or so it will devolve into another LT cat fight....

So ready for this to get over with