I've always had a gruging respect for colmes because he has, in the past, represented his view in a hostile environment without being petty..

After this, he needs to be canned. I would be surprised if even Bill Mahar would slum it this badly..

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-...ay-with-it

Background:

Santorum and his wife, Karen Garver Santorum, have seven children. One child was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, a serious genetic disorder. In 1996, a son, Gabriel, was born prematurely and lived for only two hours. While pregnant, Karen Santorum developed a life-threatening intrauterine infection and a fever that reached nearly 105 degrees. She went into labor when she was 20 weeks pregnant and allowed doctors to give her Oxytocin to speed the birth.

Karen Santorum wrote a book about the experience: Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum.[125] In it, she writes that the couple brought the deceased infant home from the hospital and presented the dead child to their living children as "your brother Gabriel" and slept with the body overnight before returning it to the hospital. The anecdote was also written about by Michael Sokolove in a 2005 New York Times Magazine story on Santorum.[1] Karen is also the author of a book on etiquette for children.

Colmes hates any human and most animals who are better looking than him.

With that said, Comes went too far and should fall on his sword. But the left never does that, they just call for the GOP to do it.

I don't think I would have handled a stillborn the same way... But I hope I never have to find out how I would.

And don't put Mahr above this either.

(01-03-2012 12:26 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  I don't think I would have handled a stillborn the same way... But I hope I never have to find out how I would.

And don't put Mahr above this either.

Having just had my 3rd I don't know what I would have done. My kids were very interested throughout the pregnancy and to go to the hospital and just come back telling them the baby is dead.

But we had our kids there with us when the wife delivered so I suppose it would not have been an issue for us.

I *completely* understand presenting the baby to the siblings..

Given the subject, I suggest we simply don't discuss it beyond saying Colmes shouldn't have said what he did. Just leave it at that.

Combs is an idiot bomb thrower. Like others, he has said he gets some of the talking points from Jornalolist. He is a tool....... Bombthrower, tool, sounds like UnGrad oh, but Combs is not black.

(01-03-2012 01:48 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Given the subject, I suggest we simply don't discuss it beyond saying Colmes shouldn't have said what he did. Just leave it at that.

This.

(01-03-2012 01:48 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Given the subject, I suggest we simply don't discuss it beyond saying Colmes shouldn't have said what he did. Just leave it at that.

So you're an ignorant fool and you defend Colmes right to be one?

There are emotional and physiological responses that a woman has when giving birth. Sleeping w/ the baby was probably very beneficial to her from both perspectives.

And Colmes' comments sound like "hate speech".

Easily the lowest thing I have ever heard him say.

But Colmes has manned up and apologized directly to Rick and his wife.

Still waiting for Bill O'Reilly's apologies to the family of Jennifer Moore and Shawn Hornbeck.

(01-03-2012 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Still waiting for Bill O'Reilly's apologies to the family of Jennifer Moore and Shawn Hornbeck.

You say this like ANYONE on this board listens to that hack.

It isn't Right vs. Left on here, as much as you want to vilify the Republicans, 98% of this board is right behind you. The only issue is that we don't defend the Dems blindly like you do.

(01-03-2012 11:35 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Still waiting for Bill O'Reilly's apologies to the family of Jennifer Moore and Shawn Hornbeck.

You say this like ANYONE on this board listens to that hack.
It isn't Right vs. Left on here, as much as you want to vilify the Republicans, 98% of this board is right behind you. The only issue is that we don't defend the Dems blindly like you do.

Agree 100%.

(01-03-2012 12:00 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:35 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Still waiting for Bill O'Reilly's apologies to the family of Jennifer Moore and Shawn Hornbeck.

You say this like ANYONE on this board listens to that hack.
It isn't Right vs. Left on here, as much as you want to vilify the Republicans, 98% of this board is right behind you. The only issue is that we don't defend the Dems blindly like you do.

Agree 100%.

If you're agreeing that I follow democrats blindly you are sadly mistaken.

My opinion of O'Reilly isn't a secret.

(01-03-2012 11:35 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  You say this like ANYONE on this board admits that they listen to that hack.

FIFY

(01-03-2012 04:12 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:35 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  You say this like ANYONE on this board admits that they listen to that hack.

FIFY

I'll admit it..I like O'Reilly. I think he's funny as h@ll!!

(01-03-2012 04:14 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 04:12 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:35 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  You say this like ANYONE on this board admits that they listen to that hack.

FIFY

I'll admit it..I like O'Reilly. I think he's funny as h@ll!!

Dennis Miller makes me laugh. The goofball professor from Columbia makes me cry.

I don't understand it. I can't fathom taking a dead child home, but he has the right to do as he pleases. I just wish he would extend the same courtesy to me and understand why I wouldn't want to put my family through the trauma and understand why I would want to terminate the pregnancy. If you find out a child has a fatal chromosmal disorder what monster would force someone to carry it through against the families wishes?

(01-03-2012 01:29 PM)Rebel Wrote:  My opinion of O'Reilly isn't a secret.

I could give 2 sh!ts about almost all these talking heads. Almost none of them speak for me. I do like the Judge and Stossel. I can tolerate Morning Joe. Other than that... F the rest of them....especially Hannity and Madow.

(01-03-2012 05:29 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't understand it. I can't fathom taking a dead child home, but he has the right to do as he pleases. I just wish he would extend the same courtesy to me and understand why I wouldn't want to put my family through the trauma and understand why I would want to terminate the pregnancy. If you find out a child has a fatal chromosmal disorder what monster would force someone to carry it through against the families wishes?

I don't get it and neither does my wife. Personally...I think it is morbid as hell..but..since it does not violate the principle of non aggression..then it is none of my business what these people chose to do in this instance.

(01-03-2012 05:29 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't understand it. I can't fathom taking a dead child home, but he has the right to do as he pleases. I just wish he would extend the same courtesy to me and understand why I wouldn't want to put my family through the trauma and understand why I would want to terminate the pregnancy. If you find out a child has a fatal chromosmal disorder what monster would force someone to carry it through against the families wishes?

So you're drawing a moral equivalence between showing someone a corpse and making someone into a corpse..

Thats pretty telling