(05-26-2011 09:29 PM)Claw Wrote:  Still think Palin's out?

Yeah, I do.

This bus-tour thing she's doing, plus the movie, are obviously designed to "test the waters", so at the minimum, she is either thinking about running, or wants to preserve the option of running for as long as possible.

But I still think, when it's all said and done, she will not be a candidate in any of the caucuses or primaries. No doubt there will be a significant write-in vote in some of those contests. But not enough to win any delegates to the Convention, or anything like that.

(05-26-2011 09:47 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(05-26-2011 09:29 PM)Claw Wrote:  Still think Palin's out?

Depends on how much money she brings in during the Bus Tour....

Look at that list. 4, if not 5, of those names will be out of the race before her bus tour is over.

Palin would do well against this field. She could win the endorsements of Trump, Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, and Huckabee. Romney would gets endorsements from governors, congress, senators and newspapers. Its comes down to how Republicans digest Romneycare and will the tea party back Romney vs Palin. Without Palin the door opens for a guy like Newt or Perry to come in a be a voice for the tea party wing. Newt's attack on establishment wing of the party shows how he will play this. He is going for the teaparty vote and will attack Romney on Romneycare. I see Palin/Newt on one side and Romney, Pawlenty on the other in the primaries. Tea party vs the establishment. Palin, Bachman, Perry and Newt are bomb throwers but that is red meat that the base loves. Does the party go for the safe but boring pick with the establishment types or the Tea party that is undisiplined but has the passion and excitement. The party typically goes for the establishment guy, but with Obama being a big favorite they may go for the principled canidate to find out what the country wants. A simple yes for more goverment or no for limited goverment. Palin won't change those who voted for Obama because they like his policies. She will change those that voted for Obama who hate Obamacare. Romney might not get those votes as it might not be seen as big enough difference.

(05-24-2011 08:55 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Who in this group has stated goal to repeal ObamaCare?

Paul. He also wants to eliminate half the departments, phase out medicare, phase out medicaid, and phase out social security.

You know, to be thorough and all.

What a melancholy choice! All preferable to Obama but I don't think any of them can win. The only thing that buoys my spirits is that I am often wrong in this type of prediction.

I'm still undecided. What Republicans need is a clean candidate. A no baggage candidate. Not many people in that category.

The idiocy of the independent voters got Obama elected in 2008. Clearly these people are hoodwinked easily. Responses here prove that to be fact. All the hope and change they wanted has failed, and failed miserably, but the idiocy independent voter remains as a deciding factor. So play to them. Hoodwink them.

Republicans need to lull these idiocy independents to stay home and not vote or convince the idiocy independents with idiotic stuff, a slight of hand so to speak, like get a real black man in the white house, or vote for another Texas southerner in the white house, or the first woman, or just a plain no baggage idiot, an assured gridlock candiate. etc.

I'm still for this below, with maybe 1 and 2 interchanged. But I remain undecided, a category not in this poll and the below does not appear to be in the minds of the idiocy independents either.

Goal 1 Repeal ObamaCare
Goal 2 Secure Borders
Goal 3 Cut size of Gov't - Balance Budget
Goal 4 Reduce the National Debt

Herman Cain(GA)- Any moron can turn a mid-size piizza chain around(even SOAF).


Newt Gingrich(GA)-Well, he is Gingrich, what more needs to be said?


John Huntsman(UT)-Don't really know much about the man. Caught a few minutes of him on C-Span. Didn't really hear him say anything because the only part I saw was him walking around taking a minute or so with everyone at the house party but no political talk or ideas.


Gary Johnson(NM)-Who?



Ron Paul(TX)-Nuttier than a fruitcake but ok defense policy.



Tim Pawlenty(MN)-Ran Minnesota into the ground.



Mitt Romney(MA)-Seems more moderate. Gave us Obamacare...I mean gave the state of Massachsetts Romneycare.


Rick Santorum(PA)-Seems like he is all over the board. Playing to the Tea-party guy(far right), moderate right and a the fundamentalist Christians. Not really sure who he is or what he believes.

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Gary Johnson(NM)-Who?

Ron Paul Part II.

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Ron Paul(TX)-Nuttier than a fruitcake but ok defense policy.

So you disagree with his social stances or his transparency stances or his civil liberties stances? I don't think that's accurate....

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Rick Santorum(PA)-Seems like he is all over the board. Playing to the Tea-party guy(far right), moderate right and a the fundamentalist Christians. Not really sure who he is or what he believes.

Calling Santorum Tea Party shows how you just don't understand the Tea Party at all. Santorum is a values voter kinda candidate. He thinks the number issues this country should deal with right now are gay marriage, abortion, (and I'm ad libbing here) keeping women in the kitchen. In his perfect world, everybody would be forced to live in the TV show The Wonder Years.

(05-28-2011 07:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Gary Johnson(NM)-Who?

Ron Paul Part II.

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Ron Paul(TX)-Nuttier than a fruitcake but ok defense policy.

So you disagree with his social stances or his transparency stances or his civil liberties stances? I don't think that's accurate....

(05-28-2011 06:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Rick Santorum(PA)-Seems like he is all over the board. Playing to the Tea-party guy(far right), moderate right and a the fundamentalist Christians. Not really sure who he is or what he believes.

Calling Santorum Tea Party shows how you just don't understand the Tea Party at all. Santorum is a values voter kinda candidate. He thinks the number issues this country should deal with right now are gay marriage, abortion, (and I'm ad libbing here) keeping women in the kitchen. In his perfect world, everybody would be forced to live in the TV show The Wonder Years.

So GJ is also nuttier than a fruitcake. Thanks. As for Paul on social issues, some I agree with some I don't. It is the fiscal part that make him nutty. As for Santorum, I was saying that he was trying to cater to all but not succeeding in any(except maybe the fundamentalist Christians). I know very well what the tea party is all about.

(05-28-2011 07:49 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I know very well what the tea party is all about.

You've made many, many intentionally false comments. If you know what the tea party is about, so far you have refused to say.

(05-28-2011 08:57 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 07:49 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I know very well what the tea party is all about.

You've made many, many intentionally false comments. If you know what the tea party is about, so far you have refused to say.

Riiiight. Lots of false comments.

(05-28-2011 09:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 08:57 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 07:49 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I know very well what the tea party is all about.

You've made many, many intentionally false comments. If you know what the tea party is about, so far you have refused to say.

Riiiight. Lots of false comments.

Right. Lots of false comments.

(05-28-2011 09:36 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 09:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 08:57 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 07:49 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I know very well what the tea party is all about.

You've made many, many intentionally false comments. If you know what the tea party is about, so far you have refused to say.

Riiiight. Lots of false comments.

Right. Lots of false comments.

And Ignorant comments

(05-28-2011 09:36 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 09:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 08:57 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 07:49 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I know very well what the tea party is all about.

You've made many, many intentionally false comments. If you know what the tea party is about, so far you have refused to say.

Riiiight. Lots of false comments.

Right. Lots of false comments.

Such as?