Lefty says some of Cain's support is about race

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

Proof Positive of the insanity that is Lefty.

He got caught off guard...He admitted it. HC is not a career politician. He actually got paid for creating and producing things in the marketplace...not stealing for a living. This is the type of thing he will need to be careful of. The media will set out to marginalize him. They do not want this guy in the mix.

If you watch the whole interview (which I happened to catch flipping channels on a plane Sunday) everything he says about Israel is that they should be in charge of their matters, not the US. He basically says his opinion doesn't matter because Israel is a sovereign nation capable of handling their own foreign policy. That, along with ignorance, are where he's coming from when he says it should be negotiated. I have a feeling Israel would need a TON in return to allow the "right of return".

He also says that he can't make a decision on foreign wars until he's in office. He doesn't have enough information as a regular citizen and can't make an informed decision on the campaign trail. A smart and respectable thing to say, if you ask me, but it won't be getting him any votes.

(05-28-2011 11:31 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  If you watch the whole interview (which I happened to catch flipping channels on a plane Sunday) everything he says about Israel is that they should be in charge of their matters, not the US. He basically says his opinion doesn't matter because Israel is a sovereign nation capable of handling their own foreign policy. That, along with ignorance, are where he's coming from when he says it should be negotiated. I have a feeling Israel would need a TON in return to allow the "right of return".

He also says that he can't make a decision on foreign wars until he's in office. He doesn't have enough information as a regular citizen and can't make an informed decision on the campaign trail. A smart and respectable thing to say, if you ask me, but it won't be getting him any votes.

Cain is not stupid. I expect he will learn very quickly not to get drawn into this type of thing again. Look for him to go on the offensive when he draws an interviewer that is trying to goad him into saying something he will regret. He is not a politician. I expect he will become more of one very quickly.

(05-28-2011 12:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is not a politician. I expect he will become more of one very quickly.

I hope not. I want a statesman. Nikki Haley comes to mind, as did Sanford before he started "humping hiking the Appalachian Trail".

(05-28-2011 12:58 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 12:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is not a politician. I expect he will become more of one very quickly.

I hope not. I want a statesman. Nikki Haley comes to mind, as did Sanford before he started "humping hiking the Appalachian Trail".

It tends to happen when the party wants to turn you into the personification of everything, EVERYTHING they stand for. Have you ever noticed how a candidate becomes a puppet when they get the nomination.

(05-28-2011 01:13 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It tends to happen when the party wants to turn you into the personification of everything, EVERYTHING they stand for. Have you ever noticed how a candidate becomes a puppet when they get the nomination.

Somehow I don't see that happening to Herman Cain. His entire life has been about results, not polls, people's opinions, and telling people what they want to hear to get ahead.

(05-28-2011 11:31 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  If you watch the whole interview (which I happened to catch flipping channels on a plane Sunday) everything he says about Israel is that they should be in charge of their matters, not the US. He basically says his opinion doesn't matter because Israel is a sovereign nation capable of handling their own foreign policy. That, along with ignorance, are where he's coming from when he says it should be negotiated. I have a feeling Israel would need a TON in return to allow the "right of return".

He also says that he can't make a decision on foreign wars until he's in office. He doesn't have enough information as a regular citizen and can't make an informed decision on the campaign trail. A smart and respectable thing to say, if you ask me, but it won't be getting him any votes.

I can't stop flip-flopping on this guy. I hate him one minute and can deal with him the next.

That statement to some may point out that he's uninformed and naive, but it tells me that he's smart enough to not make promises that he can't keep.

But as you said, not many people want to vote for a person that doesn't make the promises that they want to hear, even if it is a lie.

(05-28-2011 01:17 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 01:13 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It tends to happen when the party wants to turn you into the personification of everything, EVERYTHING they stand for. Have you ever noticed how a candidate becomes a puppet when they get the nomination.

Somehow I don't see that happening to Herman Cain. His entire life has been about results, not polls, people's opinions, and telling people what they want to hear to get ahead.

I understand and want to believe that. But alas, I'm to cynical to see it as anything different.

My point was less about what Cain said than what the lib said. It seems a republican can't hold any opinion of a black person, positive or negative, without being racist.

That's the way libs are, racists deflect.

(05-28-2011 02:33 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  My point was less about what Cain said than what the lib said. It seems a republican can't hold any opinion of a black person, positive or negative, without being racist.

So true. And, of course, it's impossible for a lib to be racist.

(05-28-2011 08:27 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Lefty says some of Cain's support is about race

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

I heard the original interview and even then his answer was 'It should be on the table at Israels discretion'

(05-28-2011 12:58 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 12:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is not a politician. I expect he will become more of one very quickly.

I hope not. I want a statesman. Nikki Haley comes to mind, as did Sanford before he started "humping hiking the Appalachian Trail".

So do I....I think though, that he must be a bit more cautious when dealing with the media. He can not afford a major gaff. I want him to be candid and "tell it like it is"...but..he has to be able to tender that keeping the mindset of the unwashed masses in mind. Lets be frank....more American's watch Entertainment Tonight than the news. Sadly..America is "tabloid" nation sitting around waiting on the next controversy to pop up.

I'm a black man. I agree and disagree with both of them on some aspects. What does that make me?

(05-28-2011 05:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm a black man. I agree and disagree with both of them on some aspects. What does that make me?

A racist and an Uncle Tom at the same time?

I think an unstoppable force just met an immovable object.

(05-28-2011 05:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm a black man. I agree and disagree with both of them on some aspects. What does that make me?

Confused.

(05-28-2011 05:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm a black man. I agree and disagree with both of them on some aspects. What does that make me?

Sensible.

(05-28-2011 06:12 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(05-28-2011 05:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm a black man. I agree and disagree with both of them on some aspects. What does that make me?

A racist and an Uncle Tom at the same time?

I think an unstoppable force just met an immovable object.

Badass!