(04-11-2011 10:52 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(04-11-2011 12:29 AM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  This is further reason why Marshall and Temple belong in the MAC for all sports. Their budgets would allow them to be at the top end of the conference. That 28,000 AND 25,000 would not rank at the top of CUSA. MAC atleast doen't have a runway arms race. Even Boise State despite their success don't spend that much more.

We have less than zero interest in joining the MAC for all sports. There are plenty of BCS schools with budgets in the 40s. That is what we aspire to do; not put everything in the MAC and be at the top. We'd much prefer to have the lowest budget in a BCS conference than the highest in the MAC and so would every other MAC school.

I disagree that Temple has "less than zero interest in joining the MAC for all sports." You know that your AD has to at least consider that possibility that the MAC could (but probably won't) ask Temple to be all in or lose your MAC affiliation. I am guessing that is an unattractive prospect and is probably option #10 on a list of what can Temple do. It doesn't matter that you think Temple wants to be the lowest budget BCS team since that isn't even an option at this point. I'm sure the BCS conferences would be more impressed if your FB team could at least win the lowly MAC with your budget and all.

(04-11-2011 10:52 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(04-11-2011 12:29 AM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  This is further reason why Marshall and Temple belong in the MAC for all sports. Their budgets would allow them to be at the top end of the conference. That 28,000 AND 25,000 would not rank at the top of CUSA. MAC atleast doen't have a runway arms race. Even Boise State despite their success don't spend that much more.

We have less than zero interest in joining the MAC for all sports. There are plenty of BCS schools with budgets in the 40s. That is what we aspire to do; not put everything in the MAC and be at the top. We'd much prefer to have the lowest budget in a BCS conference than the highest in the MAC and so would every other MAC school.

Its stuff like this that really endears Temple & its fans to all the other members of the MAC.

While its true that every MAC team would love to be in a BCS conference, you need to at least first win your division outright, then make it to the MAC Conference championship game and actually win that... along with winning a bowl game, and do it more than once, before anyone would take you seriously about even thinking of a BCS conference wanting to take you back in football.

And don't give us the speech about being in the Philadephia tv market and how attractive it is to the BCS for its ad $'s... if it was so attractive, the Big East wouldn't have kicked you out in the first place.

(04-11-2011 07:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(04-11-2011 04:59 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  And less that want to see Temple now.

The feeling is mutual, I assure you.

A lot of arrogance coming from a fan of a team that can't win the lowly MAC East..

Cool retorts, really.

Temple spends 20.3 M per NCAA (includes scholraships)
Temple budget lists the cost at 16 M for athletics
However Temple does not report additional revenues from the Liacorus center (basketbal stadium) because of its operational agreement with comcast and parking. 2.5M and 4.4 M (parking includes all lots not just athletic events).

http://www.temple.edu/budget/documents/F...ebsite.pdf

the op.ed.gov website list temple at 28.7 M

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetails....343820504d

I was recently reading about some renegotiating the Big East and ESPN may be entering into and wanted to get current MAC fans take on the potential effect on current MAC media rights.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=493775

As these bidding wars heat up this may be a great time for the MAC to negotiate better deals. For football they aren't going to get the $5M per year a Big East is likely to demand however there does seem to be room for a potential significant increase especially based on the MAC's flexibility to schedule weeknight games.

Any increase in revenue could do wonders for the schools bottom lines, possibly reinvesting the money toward on campus growth (attendance) and would offset the potential loss from adding another team.... UMass :)

Curious to see what you folks have to say about this...

(04-18-2011 12:32 PM)Sam Minuteman Wrote:  I was recently reading about some renegotiating the Big East and ESPN may be entering into and wanted to get current MAC fans take on the potential effect on current MAC media rights.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=493775

As these bidding wars heat up this may be a great time for the MAC to negotiate better deals. For football they aren't going to get the $5M per year a Big East is likely to demand however there does seem to be room for a potential significant increase especially based on the MAC's flexibility to schedule weeknight games.

Any increase in revenue could do wonders for the schools bottom lines, possibly reinvesting the money toward on campus growth (attendance) and would offset the potential loss from adding another team.... UMass :)

Curious to see what you folks have to say about this...

Everyone here thinks the MAC needs to look for a better deal. We won't get up to conference USA numbers but we should be able to get pretty close.

The MAC's ESPN deal was locked into a low payout for a very long period. One of two parting "gifts" that Rick Chryst left us before he resigned.