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Cain Lays Out His Vision For America - Ames Tribune
Cain Lays Out Vision For America

“(The First Amendment) says the government can’t establish a religion,” he said. “It doesn’t say that people can’t have religion in government. If you elect people who share the founding spirituality of this country, you will be able to depend on them to make the right decisions.”

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(03-10-2011 08:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Cain Lays Out Vision For America

“(The First Amendment) says the government can’t establish a religion,” he said. “It doesn’t say that people can’t have religion in government. If you elect people who share the founding spirituality of this country, you will be able to depend on them to make the right decisions.”

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Yeah, people have been doing that for, well, since the country first started having elections. Nothing new here. Moving right along.
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...but it's nice to see him on so many lib's radars these days. It shows you're worried about him.
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(03-10-2011 08:30 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 08:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Cain Lays Out Vision For America

“(The First Amendment) says the government can’t establish a religion,” he said. “It doesn’t say that people can’t have religion in government. If you elect people who share the founding spirituality of this country, you will be able to depend on them to make the right decisions.”

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Yeah, people have been doing that for, well, since the country first started having elections. Nothing new here. Moving right along.

I like HC...but...this issue would be better left to simply.."the government should not be involved in marriage". and keep his opinions to himself.
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(03-10-2011 08:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
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(03-10-2011 08:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Cain Lays Out Vision For America

“(The First Amendment) says the government can’t establish a religion,” he said. “It doesn’t say that people can’t have religion in government. If you elect people who share the founding spirituality of this country, you will be able to depend on them to make the right decisions.”

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Yeah, people have been doing that for, well, since the country first started having elections. Nothing new here. Moving right along.

I like HC...but...this issue would be better left to simply.."the government should not be involved in marriage". and keep his opinions to himself.

He's a FairTax supporter. What would marriage matter to a consumption tax?
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(03-10-2011 08:57 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 08:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 08:30 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 08:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Cain Lays Out Vision For America

“(The First Amendment) says the government can’t establish a religion,” he said. “It doesn’t say that people can’t have religion in government. If you elect people who share the founding spirituality of this country, you will be able to depend on them to make the right decisions.”

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Yeah, people have been doing that for, well, since the country first started having elections. Nothing new here. Moving right along.

I like HC...but...this issue would be better left to simply.."the government should not be involved in marriage". and keep his opinions to himself.

He's a FairTax supporter. What would marriage matter to a consumption tax?

Maybe I am over analyzing this..but..when it comes to comments concerning religion it is best to keep them brief and simple. "I am a person of faith..but..I believe in the separation of church and state" is a pretty good answer by someone seeking a public office. HC has let one of his cats out of the bag and now will have to answer question after question on this. He just did not need to there. In the future, he should use the KISS method of interview answering in regard to questions concerning religion.
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Yeah, I like Huckabee quite a bit too and am a Christian myself, but when he said that we wanted to re-write the constitution to follow the Bible he became unvoteable (if that is a word) for me.
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(03-10-2011 08:31 AM)Rebel Wrote:  ...but it's nice to see him on so many lib's radars these days. It shows you're worried about him.

Please don't bring this Palin-type crap up again. Cain doesn't worry me one bit because he will hever have the backing of the Republican machine, so he has no shot to get elected.
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(03-10-2011 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, I like Huckabee quite a bit too and am a Christian myself, but when he said that we wanted to re-write the constitution to follow the Bible he became unvoteable (if that is a word) for me.

When did he say that?
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(03-10-2011 10:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 08:31 AM)Rebel Wrote:  ...but it's nice to see him on so many lib's radars these days. It shows you're worried about him.

Please don't bring this Palin-type crap up again. Cain doesn't worry me one bit because he will hever have the backing of the Republican machine, so he has no shot to get elected.

BS. You don't follow him like I do. He would most certainly have the backing of the RNC if he wins the primary.
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(03-10-2011 09:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Maybe I am over analyzing this..but..when it comes to comments concerning religion it is best to keep them brief and simple. "I am a person of faith..but..I believe in the separation of church and state" is a pretty good answer by someone seeking a public office. HC has let one of his cats out of the bag and now will have to answer question after question on this. He just did not need to there. In the future, he should use the KISS method of interview answering in regard to questions concerning religion.

When 76% of the citizens in the United States claim to be Christians, um, why not? This country has been governed by Christians, for the MOST part, since it's founding.
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Reb, give it up. His name is Herman. No one will vote for him. Time to join the Paul train. Toot, toot.
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(03-10-2011 10:12 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  03-lmfao
Reb, give it up. His name is Herman. No one will vote for him. Time to join the Paul train. Toot, toot.
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They voted for a ******* named Barack, and Herman is, at least, a common American name.

Oh, and no thanks on the Paul deal.



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He's gonna need the support of the RNC hierarchy to have a shot at the nomination and I just don't see him getting it.

Time will tell...
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(03-10-2011 10:05 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, I like Huckabee quite a bit too and am a Christian myself, but when he said that we wanted to re-write the constitution to follow the Bible he became unvoteable (if that is a word) for me.

When did he say that?

"But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view." ~ Mike Huckabee, 1/14/2008
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I still don't think that Herman Cain is a very good candidate. Right now, and my opinion can change, the fact that he is a Republican and the congress could very well be republican almost surely takes my vote from him. Maintaining checks and balances is, to me, more important than voting a person in that seems so inflexible.

Right now I think we'll be in a better position if Obama stays in and has opposition in Congress. Obama is flexible when the time suits it. Look at what Clinton did in the same situation; it saved his legacy.
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(03-10-2011 10:07 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 09:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Maybe I am over analyzing this..but..when it comes to comments concerning religion it is best to keep them brief and simple. "I am a person of faith..but..I believe in the separation of church and state" is a pretty good answer by someone seeking a public office. HC has let one of his cats out of the bag and now will have to answer question after question on this. He just did not need to there. In the future, he should use the KISS method of interview answering in regard to questions concerning religion.

When 76% of the citizens in the United States claim to be Christians, um, why not? This country has been governed by Christians, for the MOST part, since it's founding.

To use religion as a large part of your strategy to run for POTUS would be risky. There is nothing wrong with letting people know that you are a person of faith. It just is not necessary to put focus on it. He would be better served by focusing on the economy,jobs,tax reform,health care,foreign policy..ect.

To some, his comment might make them think that he believes that only people of faith are capable of good decision making. That of course would be nonsense and I don't think he actually meant that The comment just opens up himself to more and more scrutiny on this issue. It just seems to be a road that one does not want to start down. It is a distraction from the issues.

I have a feeling this type of thing will occur often with him. He is used to speaking his mind and will again say something better left unsaid. I like HC because he is not a politician. This is what you get.
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(03-10-2011 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:05 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, I like Huckabee quite a bit too and am a Christian myself, but when he said that we wanted to re-write the constitution to follow the Bible he became unvoteable (if that is a word) for me.

When did he say that?

"But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view." ~ Mike Huckabee, 1/14/2008

He didn't say re-write, he said amend, a perfectly fine looooong process. And he was talking about a right to life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
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(03-10-2011 07:07 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:05 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, I like Huckabee quite a bit too and am a Christian myself, but when he said that we wanted to re-write the constitution to follow the Bible he became unvoteable (if that is a word) for me.

When did he say that?

"But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view." ~ Mike Huckabee, 1/14/2008

He didn't say re-write, he said amend, a perfectly fine looooong process. And he was talking about a right to life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

Again, it's just an attempt to get government involved in your life. You rethugs sure are dumb sometimes. Contradicting yourselves left and right. 05-stirthepot
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(03-10-2011 10:14 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-10-2011 10:12 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  03-lmfao
Reb, give it up. His name is Herman. No one will vote for him. Time to join the Paul train. Toot, toot.
03-lmfao

They voted for a ******* named Barack, and Herman is, at least, a common American name.

Oh, and no thanks on the Paul deal.

cb I think he's got you. Hussein trumps Herman every time
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