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Hillary's excuse to resign?
WikiLeaks Fallout: Should Hillary Clinton Resign?

Should Hillary Clinton resign as secretary of state due to the WikiLeaks revelations? My friend Jack Shafer at Slate makes a good case. His reason: Clinton, like predecessor Condoleezza Rice, signed orders instructing U.S. foreign service officers to spy on the diplomats of other nations. Cables went out under her name telling State Department officials overseas to collect the fingerprints, facial images, DNA, and iris scans of African leaders, to obtain passwords, credit card numbers, and frequent flyer accounts used by foreign diplomats, and to gather private information on United Nations officials, including Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

Diplomats are not spies (though spies do pose as diplomats). They do collect information -- by working contacts overseas, reviewing the local media, interacting with the population of the nations where they are stationed -- often acquiring intelligence that is as valuable, if not more so, than the secrets snatched by intelligence officials. But there is a line between a diplomat and a spook. The former uses aboveboard methods to find out what his or her government needs to know about other nations; the latter resorts to espionage, wiretaps, bribery, and other underhanded means. There are many reasons for keeping the two roles distinct. Diplomats are awarded immunity and can gain certain access overseas because they are not spies.

Now that the Clinton State Department has blurred the line, U.S. diplomats, who have to contend with the assumption that any U.S. official abroad is really working for the CIA, will have an additional burden to bear when doing their jobs overseas.

Of the many WikiLeaks revelations that have emerged in the past few days -- and more are to come in the next few months, as the renegade website continues to release batches of the 251,287 State Department cables it has obtained -- the news that U.S. diplomats have been turned into part-time spies certainly warrants thorough investigation. Obama administration officials, of course, have tried to make the leak itself the paramount issue. Attorney General Eric Holder has promised prosecutions if "we can find anybody involved in breaking American law." Clinton has called the leak "an attack on America's foreign policy interests," claiming it has endangered "innocent people." Republican Rep. Peter King urged Clinton to determine if WikiLeaks can be designated a terrorist organization. Sen. Joe Lieberman has called on the United States and other governments to shut down WikiLeaks. Sarah Palin, naturally, blamed President Barack Obama's "incompetence" for the leaks, as she erroneously equated this episode with a website posting pages of her new book without her permission.

Yet there have not been such passionate calls for investigating the transformation of U.S. diplomats into undercover snoops. The administration's strategy -- as is to be expected -- is to focus on the easy-to-demonize messenger, not the hard-to-explain message. But Diplomatgate ought to be a top priority for the oversight committees of Congress. Still, this part of the story could easily get lost in the WikiLeaks wash, as multiple revelations appear simultaneously: Arab nations practically encouraging Washington to back an attack on Iran, U.S. diplomats describing Afghan President Hamid Karzai as "driven by paranoia," and -- don't forget this one -- Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi traveling the world with a "voluptuous blonde" Ukrainian nurse. The diplomats-into-spies news is a scandal on its own. But thanks to WikiLeaks fire-hose approach, this exposé is somewhat overshadowed by the entire documents dump.

As for Clinton, WikiLeaks' scattershot approach is probably helping her. Shafer contends,

No matter what sort of noises Clinton makes about how the disclosures are "an attack on America" and "the international community," as she did today, she's become the issue. She'll never be an effective negotiator with diplomats who refuse to forgive her exuberances, and even foreign diplomats who do forgive her will still regard her as the symbol of an overreaching United States. Diplomacy is about face, and the only way for other nations to save face will be to give them Clinton's scalp. . . .

There is no way that the new WikiLeaks leaks don't leave Hillary Clinton holding the smoking gun. The time for her departure may come next week or next month, but sooner or later, the weakened and humiliated secretary of state will have to pay.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11/30/...on-resign/
11-30-2010 03:39 PM
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Excuse?

That's not exactly the exit you want to have if you're going to run for president.

I think that's an odd word choice.
11-30-2010 04:58 PM
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(11-30-2010 05:53 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Venezuelan president calls on Secretary Clinton to resign | Madam Secretary

Oh crap. Now that that communist has opened his mouth, we may have to keep her. We can't let that tin horn dictate U.S. leadership roles.
11-30-2010 06:10 PM
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If anyone in the Bush adminstration had done this there would be a deafening liberal outcry. I guess you could call this the International Patriot Act. But while Clinton may or may not have dropped the ball, the fish always stinks from the head down and ultimately this is Obama's problem.
11-30-2010 06:13 PM
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(11-30-2010 06:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  If anyone in the Bush adminstration had done this there would be a deafening liberal outcry. I guess you could call this the International Patriot Act. But while Clinton may or may not have dropped the ball, the fish always stinks from the head down and ultimately this is Obama's problem.

From what I have seen "in years past" the information requested in the leaked cables is pretty "standard" but the inquiries are not issued in the direct name of the SoS;- it usually comes from the US State Department "in house intelligence" people - the Bureau of Intelligence and Research.

The CIA does their own evaluation on foreign leadership which, in various classification formats, is distributed throughout the US Intelligence Community and US Government Agencies, including the State Department.

Hillary apparently wanted the proverbial "Second Opinion".
11-30-2010 07:16 PM
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(11-30-2010 06:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  If anyone in the Bush adminstration had done this there would be a deafening liberal outcry. I guess you could call this the International Patriot Act. But while Clinton may or may not have dropped the ball, the fish always stinks from the head down and ultimately this is Obama's problem.

According to the article I read, Condoleeza Rice did exactly the same thing (wikileaks did not exist at that time).

edit: that article was the one that started this thread... "Clinton, like predecessor Condoleezza Rice, signed orders instructing U.S. foreign service officers to spy on the diplomats of other nations"
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