OH COME ON.

I figured this forum would have been all over this by now.

Well said.

Yes...We are slaves on a comfortable plantation. The government even uses your future labor as collateral for borrowing money. Your labor is considered a asset on the governments balance sheet. So..in effect it owns your labor and therefore owns YOU.

Sadly...There is nothing one can do about it except attempt to hide as much income from the thieves as is possible without drawing attention to yourself and live your life as free as the government allows.
Since the government has the monopoly on the use of force, any forceful attempt at resistance will surely be met with escalating levels of violence by the government..... and that includes taking your life.

Well presented postion.

and you wonder why the public doesn't respond to stuff like this, yet lap up what obama says. charisma anyone?

(08-19-2010 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

I am more of a slave to multi-national corporations because they OWN the government.

(08-20-2010 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I am more of a slave to multi-national corporations because they OWN the government.

You'd think anti-corporate liberals would be allies with anti-government conservatives, given that very often big government is in bed with big corporate entities.

Is it possible that yesterday's Liberal is today's Libertarian? Just as a Republican is not necessarily a fiscal Conservative, a Liberal may not be a Leftist.

I fear Big Government more. They have the guns.

Big Government is the Puppet Master. Big Business is the puppet with its chrony Capitalism.
Big Government sets the policy and Big Business whores itself to meet the objective.
Certainly not what I'm fighting for. Robert likes Big Government, as long as its HIS Big Government.

(08-20-2010 10:27 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(08-20-2010 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I am more of a slave to multi-national corporations because they OWN the government.

You'd think anti-corporate liberals would be allies with anti-government conservatives, given that very often big government is in bed with big corporate entities.

Um, no. I am NOT against government. I think that government can be helpful and is necessary(just not when they are bought and paid for by corporations-lobbyists,corps as people etc). I don't believe that getting rid of the government is good for anyone. That is not to say that the government shouldn't streamline a bit. If there is too much overlap and excessive cut it and/or merge departments.

(08-20-2010 10:44 AM)niucob86 Wrote:  Is it possible that yesterday's Liberal is today's Libertarian? Just as a Republican is not necessarily a fiscal Conservative, a Liberal may not be a Leftist.

I fear Big Government more. They have the guns.

Big Government is the Puppet Master. Big Business is the puppet with its chrony Capitalism.
Big Government sets the policy and Big Business whores itself to meet the objective.
Certainly not what I'm fighting for. Robert likes Big Government, as long as its HIS Big Government.

Of course you fear gov't more. I mean, just look at your name. You are/were in the college of business.

It's such a good racket, when one thinks about it. I actually applaud the Leftists truthfully for their strategy.

Big Government: Lets buy votes by increasing home ownership. We'll set up a system and will even issue loans to people who are not credit worthy.

Big Business: We are whores! We'll help! We can charge all kinds of fees! Oh, but what happens if the zero down loans to credit risks go bad?

Big Government: No sweat, gotcha covered! Set up your questionable investment vehicles and we'll look the other way. We'll even bail you out if things get dicey. As always, just meet the political objective.

After the House of Cards collapses, here comes the Media.

Media: "Capitalism suks!" "Death to the Free Market!"

American Voter: Gosh, I better vote Democrat.

(08-20-2010 11:08 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-20-2010 10:27 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(08-20-2010 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I am more of a slave to multi-national corporations because they OWN the government.

You'd think anti-corporate liberals would be allies with anti-government conservatives, given that very often big government is in bed with big corporate entities.

Um, no. I am NOT against government. I think that government can be helpful and is necessary(just not when they are bought and paid for by corporations-lobbyists,corps as people etc). I don't believe that getting rid of the government is good for anyone. That is not to say that the government shouldn't streamline a bit. If there is too much overlap and excessive cut it and/or merge departments.

Yes...We need a full study into streamlining government. A commission will need to be started. They will need a full staff and a budget.

Government by its nature NEVER decreases in size. It has absolutely zero incentive to do anything but grow.

(08-20-2010 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-19-2010 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

I am more of a slave to multi-national corporations because they OWN the government.

I would submit likewise... You have zero obligation to ever do business with ANY corporation because you have choices in how you spend the fruits of your labor. You have NO choice in having to deal with the government. It steals the fruits of your labor without giving you any options. Since the government owns your labor...you are its slave.

I didn't know Steven Seagall was so enlightened.