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(03-07-2010 08:46 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 08:30 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  what's with all these angry newbies? where are they all coming from

Some look a lot like sock puppets.

Sock puppets? Isn't that what the Discovery Institute uses in their educational lectures?

Yeah, they evolved from scraps of yarn.

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(03-07-2010 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  If you (claim) have only been in the party 3 decades, feel free to edit your above post about it being your party a lot longer than mine, jr.

You've misconstrued my words. I said that I've been putting up with people like you for about three decades. That's about when the mindless, reactionaries started getting a real foothold in the party.


(03-07-2010 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  As for my sig, I have the same question. Anyone know?

I'm sure somebody does.

Not a big fan of Reagan's I take it.
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(03-07-2010 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  If you (claim) have only been in the party 3 decades, feel free to edit your above post about it being your party a lot longer than mine, jr.

You've misconstrued my words. I said that I've been putting up with people like you for about three decades. That's about when the mindless, reactionaries started getting a real foothold in the party.


(03-07-2010 08:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  As for my sig, I have the same question. Anyone know?

I'm sure somebody does.

Not a big fan of Reagan's I take it.

I liked Reagan very much, but he put together an electoral coalition with people I don't like very much. Those people are now steering the party because too many people like me couldn't stomach staying in the party with them and left. His economic policies are also grotesquely misinterpreted by today's right. The misinterpretation of those policies is at least partially responsible for the poor economic condition we find ourselves in today.
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(03-07-2010 05:05 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  There's a racial history with the monkey/gorilla/chimpanzee comparisons.

There is? Tell us about it.

White men can't jump. Is that racist?
White guys can't dance. Is that racist?
White guys have small peckers. Is that racist?
Black people hate swimming. Is that racist?

Dude, have a few brews and chill, there are no racists in the Spin Room. There are 2 types of people on this board: regular Joes and the people who call them racists.
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(03-07-2010 05:05 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  There's a racial history with the monkey/gorilla/chimpanzee comparisons.

There is? Tell us about it.

White men can't jump. Is that racist?
White guys can't dance. Is that racist?
White guys have small peckers. Is that racist?
Black people hate swimming. Is that racist?

Dude, have a few brews and chill, there are no racists in the Spin Room. There are 2 types of people on this board: regular Joes and the people who call them racists.

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Is this racist?

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(03-07-2010 05:05 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  There's a racial history with the monkey/gorilla/chimpanzee comparisons.

There is? Tell us about it.

Studies Expose ‘Apelike’ Stereotype Among Whites
By: Tom Jacobs | March 22, 2008 | 00:01 AM (PDT) | Print



The notion that people of African descent are somehow apelike is stubbornly stuck in white Americans' subconscious, according to a series of six studies.



In a widely heralded speech, presidential candidate Barack Obama asked Americans to begin a more honest discussion about race, anger and prejudice. Such a conversation is unlikely to get far, however, if someone’s not even aware of their bigoted assumptions. And a just-published series of six studies suggests one racial stereotypes — that blacks are somehow apelike — is lodged in the minds of white Americans, just below the level of consciousness.

“When I first analyzed the data, I spent two days under the covers,” said lead author Phillip Atiba Goff, an assistant professor of psychology at Pennsylvania State University. “I was sick and depressed. When I left my apartment, I felt everyone looking at me would see a monkey.

“But at this point, I’m able to feel some optimism about it. Once I tell my students about this, they are able to see it and put it in perspective. Knowing about it, and being able to talk about it, positions us to better combat it.”

The project was conceived five years ago when Goff was a graduate student at Stanford University, studying under associate professor of psychology Jennifer Eberhardt (who, like Goff, is African-American). “She had a child in day care at the time we started talking about this,” Goff recalled. “One day, she heard a white woman — a teacher or a parent — refer to her child as a monkey.”

As they discussed the remark, which was greeted by a stunned silence, Eberhardt and Goff saw the seeds of a study. “We had a sense that this representation was out there and it had material consequences, but (also) that people lacked the language to discuss it, and maybe even the awareness,” Goff said. “Little did we know how little awareness they had.”

Realizing they were treading on sensitive territory, Eberhardt and Goff (who were eventually joined by Melissa J. Williams of UC Berkeley and Matthew Christian Jackson of Penn State) proceeded slowly and cautiously. “We wanted to be very careful,” he recalled. “We didn’t want to publish anything that was spurious. We took our time, doing a number of studies to make sure we had captioned the phenomenon.”

The first study, which was conducted at Stanford, was made up of 121 male undergraduates – 60 whites and 61 of other races. (All the participants in these studies were males. Goff explained that he wanted to measure stereotypes of black men, since they seem to be stronger than those for black women, and he wanted the participants in the study to be of the same gender.)

The participants were “primed” with one of three sets of images: 50 photographs of black male faces, 50 photos of white male faces or an abstract line drawing. As is standard practice on such tests, the images were flashed onto their computer screens too rapidly for them to consciously register.

The students then watched short films of animals, which were obscured in such a way that it was difficult at first to make out exactly what species they were seeing. Gradually, the image became clearer, so the animal could be identified.

The disturbing result: Participants who had been primed with black male faces required fewer frames to identify the animal in question as an ape. In contrast, those primed with white male faces required more frames to make the identification than those who saw the racially neutral line drawing.

“The effects were quite large — distressingly large,” Goff said. “There was a decent amount of variance, but there weren’t a whole lot of folks that didn’t demonstrate the effect.

“The difference between when the black face was primed and when the white face was primed was about six frames, which was about three full seconds. In cognitive terms, where you’re staring at a screen you’re just a few inches from and trying to tell what an object is, three seconds is a profound difference!”

In follow-up tests, Goff and his colleagues tried to pinpoint the source of the association. Perhaps, they theorized, Americans associate blacks not with apes per se; perhaps the association was of blacks with Africa, and Africa with apes. But a study that attempted to establish a link between African men and the big cats that reside on that continent failed to do so. Instead, it confirmed that the association is with apes.

Study five, conducted at Penn State University, took a different approach. A group of white male students were primed with words associated with either apes or big cats. They then watched a tape of a policeman beating a man, a la Rodney King. Half were told the man (whose image was unclear on the film) was white; the other half were told he was black.

The students who were primed with cat words considered the beating unjustified. So did those who were primed with ape words but were told the victim was white. But those who were primed with the ape words and told the victim was black were far more ambivalent in their reaction. “The association between black and ape left our white respondents more open to the possibility that police violence might in fact be justified,” Goff said.

Goff considers the sixth and final study the most distressing of all. “We looked at 183 cases over a 20-year span where a defendant was found guilty of a crime and was eligible for the death penalty,” he said. “We looked at any article from the Philadelphia Inquirer that mentioned the incident, up until the sentencing. We coded them for words like ‘ape,’ ‘beast,’ ‘brute’ or ‘jungle’ — ape-specific words.

“It turned out African Americans had significantly more ape-related images ascribed to them than did whites. And among African Americans, the more ape-related images you had in your press coverage, the more likely you were to be put to death.”

Goff is not claiming a causal relationship between the stories and the death sentences; juries, he noted, are routinely ordered not to read press accounts of their cases. Rather, he concluded, “the representation of African Americans as apelike is so present in the cultural ether that both the press and the juries were drawn toward it.”

With, in some cases, lethal results.

The notion of blacks as apelike “began with the first European contact with Africans,” Goff said. “There were illustrations of apes descending from the trees and having intercourse with African females. It was perhaps the most popular pictorial representation of people of African descent in the 17th, 18th and early 19th centuries.”

In the influential and now infamous 1854 book Types of Mankind, Josiah C. Nott and George Robins Gliddon rank Negroes between Greeks and chimpanzees on the evolutionary ladder.

“I don’t think it’s intentional, but when people learn about human evolution, they walk away with a notion that people of African descent are closer to apes than people of European descent,” Eberhardt told the Stanford University press office. “When people think of a civilized person, a white man comes to mind.”

The imagery cost caustic sportscaster Howard Cosell his Monday Night Football job when in 1984 he said, “look at that little monkey run” in referring to an African-American wide receiver. (After he was fired, Cosell produced tape showing him calling a white player a monkey.) It was a different story a dozen years later, when another sportscaster, Billy Packer, called then-Georgetown basketball phenom Allen Iverson a “tough monkey.” Neither Iverson, an African American, nor his coach, also African American, made a fuss and Packer kept his job.

At the highest levels of soccer, throughout Spain, France and Eastern Europe, African stars have long been subjected to racist taunts — often in the form of monkey grunts, and sometimes from their own fans. Earlier this year, the black British race car driver Lewis Hamilton endured torrents of racist abuse — including being jeered by fans in black face and ape wigs — at a Formula One event in Barcelona.

It’s not just sports.

Images of blacks as apelike creatures can still be found in many European and Latin American countries. The still-popular “Tintin” series of comic books by the Belgian writer and illustrator Herge include a 1931 installment that takes place in the Congo and depicts the natives as monkey-like.

Goff found that even contemporary college students who had no idea this connection had ever been made apparently had this notion in their subconscious. (For one of the studies, the participants were specifically asked whether they were aware of the stereotype of blacks as apelike. Only 9 percent answered affirmatively.)

So how is this being transmitted from generation to generation? “It’s a fascinating question,” Goff said. “If you look at the depictions of Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Barack Obama in editorial cartoons, they are frequently simian-looking representations. It’s reasonable that could go unremarked upon, and yet feed these associations.”

Goff is continuing to study that question and probe further into sources of unconscious racism. “The other research I do is on stereotype threats — the fear whites have of being seen as racist,” he said. “So I study both sides of what Obama was speaking about. I am more than a little bit inspired by his words.”

Inspired, but not particularly popular among his colleagues.

“We’ve gotten a lot of hate e-mails since this research was first published,” Goff said. “People are very angry, including people in my own institution who don’t believe we should be doing this research. I’ve heard from blacks, whites, Asians and Latinos. They call it ‘incendiary research.’ Some people accuse us of poor methodology, as is their wont when social scientists find something they don’t like.

“But considering the power (of this linkage), it needs to be studied scientifically. I believe there are ways to fix this. I can’t say exactly what they are, but it will be social scientists who find the language.”
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That kinda pisses me off as well. Kid is eating watermelon, twirling a basketball, and had KFC in the background. We ALL played basketball as kids, we all LOVE watermelon, and KFC? That **** is heaven in a box. When I went into the military I got pissed as this "Soul Food" day that happened on Thursday's in the chow hall. Why? Well, apparently "Soul Food", guess they were saying "Black Food", was greens, BBQ ribs and chicken, fried chicken, fried okra, blackeyed peas, etc. People, I grew UP in this **** my entire life. We didn't eat Caviar where I came from and any form of Pate came in the form of potted meat. Yum yum. Idiots like the progressive Robert are probably too good for that though. I'd love to see how Robert would handle some Souse. That would be interesting.
I think I may have had head cheese when I was younger but have not had any recently. You would be surprised at what I would eat.
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Quote:The project was conceived five years ago when Goff was a graduate student at Stanford University, studying under associate professor of psychology Jennifer Eberhardt (who, like Goff, is African-American). “She had a child in day care at the time we started talking about this,” Goff recalled. “One day, she heard a white woman — a teacher or a parent — refer to her child as a monkey.”

Uh, white children get referred to as little monkeys. I've heard people using that language my whole life. Including black people. You've never heard anyone refer to a child in that way?

Anyway, you were asked about this racial history you were talking about. And you give a, um, less than convincing study. Jeez, they found what they set out to find.
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(03-07-2010 11:01 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 09:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 05:05 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  There's a racial history with the monkey/gorilla/chimpanzee comparisons.

There is? Tell us about it.

Studies Expose ‘Apelike’ Stereotype Among Whites
By: Tom Jacobs | March 22, 2008 | 00:01 AM (PDT) | Print



The notion that people of African descent are somehow apelike is stubbornly stuck in white Americans' subconscious, according to a series of six studies.



In a widely heralded speech, presidential candidate Barack Obama asked Americans to begin a more honest discussion about race, anger and prejudice. Such a conversation is unlikely to get far, however, if someone’s not even aware of their bigoted assumptions. And a just-published series of six studies suggests one racial stereotypes — that blacks are somehow apelike — is lodged in the minds of white Americans, just below the level of consciousness.

“When I first analyzed the data, I spent two days under the covers,” said lead author Phillip Atiba Goff, an assistant professor of psychology at Pennsylvania State University. “I was sick and depressed. When I left my apartment, I felt everyone looking at me would see a monkey.

“But at this point, I’m able to feel some optimism about it. Once I tell my students about this, they are able to see it and put it in perspective. Knowing about it, and being able to talk about it, positions us to better combat it.”

The project was conceived five years ago when Goff was a graduate student at Stanford University, studying under associate professor of psychology Jennifer Eberhardt (who, like Goff, is African-American). “She had a child in day care at the time we started talking about this,” Goff recalled. “One day, she heard a white woman — a teacher or a parent — refer to her child as a monkey.”

As they discussed the remark, which was greeted by a stunned silence, Eberhardt and Goff saw the seeds of a study. “We had a sense that this representation was out there and it had material consequences, but (also) that people lacked the language to discuss it, and maybe even the awareness,” Goff said. “Little did we know how little awareness they had.”

Realizing they were treading on sensitive territory, Eberhardt and Goff (who were eventually joined by Melissa J. Williams of UC Berkeley and Matthew Christian Jackson of Penn State) proceeded slowly and cautiously. “We wanted to be very careful,” he recalled. “We didn’t want to publish anything that was spurious. We took our time, doing a number of studies to make sure we had captioned the phenomenon.”

The first study, which was conducted at Stanford, was made up of 121 male undergraduates – 60 whites and 61 of other races. (All the participants in these studies were males. Goff explained that he wanted to measure stereotypes of black men, since they seem to be stronger than those for black women, and he wanted the participants in the study to be of the same gender.)

The participants were “primed” with one of three sets of images: 50 photographs of black male faces, 50 photos of white male faces or an abstract line drawing. As is standard practice on such tests, the images were flashed onto their computer screens too rapidly for them to consciously register.

The students then watched short films of animals, which were obscured in such a way that it was difficult at first to make out exactly what species they were seeing. Gradually, the image became clearer, so the animal could be identified.

The disturbing result: Participants who had been primed with black male faces required fewer frames to identify the animal in question as an ape. In contrast, those primed with white male faces required more frames to make the identification than those who saw the racially neutral line drawing.

“The effects were quite large — distressingly large,” Goff said. “There was a decent amount of variance, but there weren’t a whole lot of folks that didn’t demonstrate the effect.

“The difference between when the black face was primed and when the white face was primed was about six frames, which was about three full seconds. In cognitive terms, where you’re staring at a screen you’re just a few inches from and trying to tell what an object is, three seconds is a profound difference!”

In follow-up tests, Goff and his colleagues tried to pinpoint the source of the association. Perhaps, they theorized, Americans associate blacks not with apes per se; perhaps the association was of blacks with Africa, and Africa with apes. But a study that attempted to establish a link between African men and the big cats that reside on that continent failed to do so. Instead, it confirmed that the association is with apes.

Study five, conducted at Penn State University, took a different approach. A group of white male students were primed with words associated with either apes or big cats. They then watched a tape of a policeman beating a man, a la Rodney King. Half were told the man (whose image was unclear on the film) was white; the other half were told he was black.

The students who were primed with cat words considered the beating unjustified. So did those who were primed with ape words but were told the victim was white. But those who were primed with the ape words and told the victim was black were far more ambivalent in their reaction. “The association between black and ape left our white respondents more open to the possibility that police violence might in fact be justified,” Goff said.

Goff considers the sixth and final study the most distressing of all. “We looked at 183 cases over a 20-year span where a defendant was found guilty of a crime and was eligible for the death penalty,” he said. “We looked at any article from the Philadelphia Inquirer that mentioned the incident, up until the sentencing. We coded them for words like ‘ape,’ ‘beast,’ ‘brute’ or ‘jungle’ — ape-specific words.

“It turned out African Americans had significantly more ape-related images ascribed to them than did whites. And among African Americans, the more ape-related images you had in your press coverage, the more likely you were to be put to death.”

Goff is not claiming a causal relationship between the stories and the death sentences; juries, he noted, are routinely ordered not to read press accounts of their cases. Rather, he concluded, “the representation of African Americans as apelike is so present in the cultural ether that both the press and the juries were drawn toward it.”

With, in some cases, lethal results.

The notion of blacks as apelike “began with the first European contact with Africans,” Goff said. “There were illustrations of apes descending from the trees and having intercourse with African females. It was perhaps the most popular pictorial representation of people of African descent in the 17th, 18th and early 19th centuries.”

In the influential and now infamous 1854 book Types of Mankind, Josiah C. Nott and George Robins Gliddon rank Negroes between Greeks and chimpanzees on the evolutionary ladder.

“I don’t think it’s intentional, but when people learn about human evolution, they walk away with a notion that people of African descent are closer to apes than people of European descent,” Eberhardt told the Stanford University press office. “When people think of a civilized person, a white man comes to mind.”

The imagery cost caustic sportscaster Howard Cosell his Monday Night Football job when in 1984 he said, “look at that little monkey run” in referring to an African-American wide receiver. (After he was fired, Cosell produced tape showing him calling a white player a monkey.) It was a different story a dozen years later, when another sportscaster, Billy Packer, called then-Georgetown basketball phenom Allen Iverson a “tough monkey.” Neither Iverson, an African American, nor his coach, also African American, made a fuss and Packer kept his job.

At the highest levels of soccer, throughout Spain, France and Eastern Europe, African stars have long been subjected to racist taunts — often in the form of monkey grunts, and sometimes from their own fans. Earlier this year, the black British race car driver Lewis Hamilton endured torrents of racist abuse — including being jeered by fans in black face and ape wigs — at a Formula One event in Barcelona.

It’s not just sports.

Images of blacks as apelike creatures can still be found in many European and Latin American countries. The still-popular “Tintin” series of comic books by the Belgian writer and illustrator Herge include a 1931 installment that takes place in the Congo and depicts the natives as monkey-like.

Goff found that even contemporary college students who had no idea this connection had ever been made apparently had this notion in their subconscious. (For one of the studies, the participants were specifically asked whether they were aware of the stereotype of blacks as apelike. Only 9 percent answered affirmatively.)

So how is this being transmitted from generation to generation? “It’s a fascinating question,” Goff said. “If you look at the depictions of Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Barack Obama in editorial cartoons, they are frequently simian-looking representations. It’s reasonable that could go unremarked upon, and yet feed these associations.”

Goff is continuing to study that question and probe further into sources of unconscious racism. “The other research I do is on stereotype threats — the fear whites have of being seen as racist,” he said. “So I study both sides of what Obama was speaking about. I am more than a little bit inspired by his words.”

Inspired, but not particularly popular among his colleagues.

“We’ve gotten a lot of hate e-mails since this research was first published,” Goff said. “People are very angry, including people in my own institution who don’t believe we should be doing this research. I’ve heard from blacks, whites, Asians and Latinos. They call it ‘incendiary research.’ Some people accuse us of poor methodology, as is their wont when social scientists find something they don’t like.

“But considering the power (of this linkage), it needs to be studied scientifically. I believe there are ways to fix this. I can’t say exactly what they are, but it will be social scientists who find the language.”

Well with results of studies like this, a smart lawyer could get the death penalty thrown out. But since that has not happened, this study seems more about making whites feel guilty than any scientific study. IMO

Quote:“It turned out African Americans had significantly more ape-related images ascribed to them than did whites. And among African Americans, the more ape-related images you had in your press coverage, the more likely you were to be put to death.”
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(03-07-2010 07:56 PM)GilWinant Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 07:09 PM)Paul M Wrote:  **** you *******.

I bet your days are numbered here, re-tread.

Why would my days here be numbered? Do you think you're going to run me off? I've been putting up with your type in my party for three decades. I'm still here. I'll still be here when you're gone.

Hey, where did your juvenile signature go?

You're not a Republican, moron. There's not a person here that thinks you are. I can say I'm a Democrat. Does it make it so? Actions speak louder than words. ...and your words have Democrat written all over them.
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(03-07-2010 11:03 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I think I may have had head cheese when I was younger but have not had any recently. You would be surprised at what I would eat.

Tell the truth. You googled that, didn't you? I don't know anyone who's from the north, both black and white, that has eaten Souse. I guess the next thing you'll tell me is you've had Chitlins. ....BTW, that's one thing I've NEVER had. My g-grandmother used to string those nasty sumbitches up in the kitchen in her home in Ruleville, Ms. That **** stank.
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(03-07-2010 11:57 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 11:03 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I think I may have had head cheese when I was younger but have not had any recently. You would be surprised at what I would eat.

Tell the truth. You googled that, didn't you? I don't know anyone who's from the north, both black and white, that has eaten Souse. I guess the next thing you'll tell me is you've had Chitlins. ....BTW, that's one thing I've NEVER had. My g-grandmother used to string those nasty sumbitches up in the kitchen in her home in Ruleville, Ms. That **** stank.
Yes, I looked up the meaning because I have never heard of Souse. I am pretty sure I have had head cheese when I was a kid but I don't remember for sure. No. I have never had chitlins. I have had collard greens though. Oddly enough, it was in a little "soul food" family owned retaurant in a house(had about 6 tables) in Newport Rhode Island. THey even had sweet tea(had 2 glasses).
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I think the First Lady of the United States of America deserves respect, regardless of race.
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(03-07-2010 12:52 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 12:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  03-lmfao

Go ahead and laugh up there in your lilly white state (get outside of Chicago and Springfield). You northerner's distaste for blacks is why about 90% of blacks in northern states are confined to the inner cities. Down here they reside and are welcome everywhere.

The North does have an underbelly of arrogance, elitism and smarter-than-thou attitude. It's flat-out humorous listening to people pretend that racism of any kind barely exists up here. For example, metropolitan Detroit is one of the most segregated in the country. And some of the industrial-heap working class suburban neighborhoods, from Warren to Taylor, are quite unwelcoming to "outsiders" (read: differing skin color or sexual orientation). On a side note, some of these particular xenophobic 'burbs typically vote left of center due to their high UAW union membership.
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Post: #56
RE: E-Mail Compares First Lady to Tarzan's Cheeta
(03-07-2010 01:27 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-07-2010 01:20 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  [Image: thats_racist.gif]

That kinda pisses me off as well. Kid is eating watermelon, twirling a basketball, and had KFC in the background. We ALL played basketball as kids, we all LOVE watermelon, and KFC? That **** is heaven in a box. When I went into the military I got pissed as this "Soul Food" day that happened on Thursday's in the chow hall. Why? Well, apparently "Soul Food", guess they were saying "Black Food", was greens, BBQ ribs and chicken, fried chicken, fried okra, blackeyed peas, etc. People, I grew UP in this **** my entire life. We didn't eat Caviar where I came from and any form of Pate came in the form of potted meat. Yum yum. Idiots like the progressive Robert are probably too good for that though. I'd love to see how Robert would handle some Souse. That would be interesting.

I agree (except for KFC being "heaven in a box"...there is much better fried chicken out there). I never undertood the food stereotypes. I can pretty much guarantee you I have eaten more cornbread per annum than any other person in the country.
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