interesting link
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_la...tball_team

ETSU isn't alone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_def...ball_teams

(09-23-2009 09:12 PM)$1.80 Wrote:  I think most people would agree with you that we don't want a football program losing millions. However, I think that many on the board do believe that with an administration that formulates a plan for success and holds people in responsible positions accountable; that while the program may continue to lose money (most do), the losses would be acceptable in terms of benefits gained. Until the administration actively promotes the re-instatement of football and markets aggressively, I would agree with you that we have no expectation of success. Our differences lie in that I think it can be done. As a side note, I gather that you are a Memphis alum. That's fine....that gives you a football team to pull for in the fall. However, many on this board are ETSU alums and have no personal stake in any other team. If you were in their position, you might feel a little differently.

I'm also an ETSU alum, who missed few if any football games from 79-85, so as they say I was there.

It is hard to pull for Memphis in football, because they always have trouble. In Memphis if the football team has a winning season it is cause for celebration. In Memphis football is defined by Ole Miss and UT (400 miles away). People living in Memphis in general think CUSA is crap (it is for basketball), and that the football team can't even win in CUSA much less the SEC. Loosing to MTSU probably means the team won't average 30K this year, that is in a 66K stadium. I'll bet they will average 25K or less? Anyway, it is all about UT mostly and they are 400 miles away. People want to feel they are seeing the big time like UT or pro football. They want the show. Without having BCS money the football program can't take the next step and be competitive. Without the basketball money, they would almost have to have a walk on program. So in short it is hard to see them get their head kicked in (on TV even) every Saturday.

All I know is Mike Tomlin came from the U of M coaching staff and with the proliferation of bowls Memphis has been able to make them here and there.

I'm not saying the Tigers are the second coming of Notre Dame. I am saying if they move up to a larger conference, which they are actively trying to do, a lot of interest will result.

Just as I feel the same would happen for ETSU. The excuse "they're both one-bid conferences!" ain't gonna cut it.

In fact, had ETSU not dropped football, there is a legitimate arguement that can be made the So Con would be a two-bid conference.

(09-25-2009 09:14 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  In fact, had ETSU not dropped football, there is a legitimate arguement that can be made the So Con would be a two-bid conference.

That's assuming ETSU would have been up to the task, prior to last season I would argue that ETSU didn't have the coaching to be at the top of the A-Sun and contend for a 2nd bid.

But then our recruiting would have been better so it may have equaled out anyway.

In my opinion had ETSU stayed in the SoCon the coach probably would not have lasted until last year.

Yeah, and come to think of it, I'm trying to have it both ways.

I often say how ETSU was 7-19 in their last So Con year and then won the regular season A-Sun title two years later as an example of how much better the So Con is.

But, I have no reason NOT to believe the 2006-07 A-Sun regular season champ wasn't better than the 2004-05 Bucs.

Of course, the 2006-07 Bucs didn't have Tim Smith hogging the ball left and right. So I do believe that team was significantly better than the teams of Smith's junior and senior years.

(09-25-2009 12:09 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  In my opinion had ETSU stayed in the SoCon the coach probably would not have lasted until last year.

Probably a safe bet, though that would require Mullins firing someone other an a secretary

(09-25-2009 07:59 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  

(09-25-2009 12:09 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  In my opinion had ETSU stayed in the SoCon the coach probably would not have lasted until last year.

Probably a safe bet, though that would require Mullins firing someone other an a secretary

Very true!