Quote:A FOUR-YEAR-OLD California boy may be permanently blinded after his father bit out one of his eyes and mutilated the other.
Police told The Bakersfield Californian Angel Vidal Mendoza, 34, appeared to be under the influence of the drug PCP when he attacked the boy on April 28.

They said Mr Mendoza later rolled his wheelchair outside and began hacking at his own legs with an axe.

Angelo Mendoza Junior told police, "My daddy ate my eyes", The Associated Press (AP) reported.

Doctors at Mercy Hospital said it is unclear whether Angelo will regain vision in his right eye.

The boy's mother wasn't home at the time, AP said.

Mr Mendoza is due in court on Thursday charged with mayhem, torture and child cruelty.

Dad bites out child's eye


To all those liberal wacko's that think the death penalty is wrong if that story doesn't change your mind, you're heartless. I imagine there are a lot of folks on this board that would volunteer to be that scumbag's executioner.

I'm against the death penalty. In cases of this nature, I think a prefrontal lobotomy would be the preferred solution. Walk one vegetable through a jail, with the scar from where the frontal lobes of his brain were scooped out being highly visible to all the criminals present. That would deter more crime than a thousand televised executions...

I'm for the death penalty and I think it should be expanded. Why is it that when someone shoots at somebody we reward him with only charging him with attempted murder when his intent as to kill? The death penalty should go to other crimes such as rape, maiming someone, torture and to every member of a gang that kills someone. There's more but I'll stop here.

And for you left wing loons who think the death penalty is cruel and unusual because there might be some pain involved...get over it. We all experience pain every day - cancer is painful, a tooth ache is painful, and on and on. Why is a scumbag murderer afforded comfort during his death and not us? Want to make it so it doesn't hurt? Chop their heads off. Throw them off a cliff. Drop a piano on them. Fill them full of the drug they use for major surgery and then OD them with cocaine or something.

My dearest Terri, who died long before any of us expeced her to, had a great idea: Kill the murderer the same way his killed his victim. The more you say it's too cruel the more you justify doing it.

Admitted Murders should not be able to spend one penny on lawyers. Here in Texas we execute more than any other state in the country. It takes 7 years adv. and costs more than a million dollars to execute each admitted killer. This is abuse of due process. Lawyers bilk (as usual) the system.

Sum, here in the Land of the Liberal a guy sits on death row for an average of more than 25 years before he gets justice.

I understand and share your horror concerning this tragedy. I guess my question is....Will executing this man make his child "whole" again? I'd submit that making this man toil in labor to pay restitution for the damage he has done would be much more a sensible alternative. His death would really serve no useful purpose....Id agree though that he deserves to die.

This is the problem with our prison system. It lacks a way to make someone who has committed a violent crime pay "real" restitution to the victim. Instead...It re-victimizes the victim by forcing them to pay for their incarceration.

I'd like to see this guy be an a forced labor slave for the rest of his life or until his child is made whole again...which ever comes first.

(05-19-2009 08:54 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  His death would really serve no useful purpose....

It serves justice.

(05-19-2009 08:54 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  This is the problem with our prison system. It lacks a way to make someone who has committed a violent crime pay "real" restitution to the victim. Instead...It re-victimizes the victim by forcing them to pay for their incarceration.

Agreed. Victim restitution takes a back burner to everything and that simply is not right.

(05-19-2009 08:54 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I'd like to see this guy be an a forced labor slave for the rest of his life or until his child is made whole again...which ever comes first.

The ACLU would never let that happen.

(05-19-2009 08:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Admitted Murders should not be able to spend one penny on lawyers. Here in Texas we execute more than any other state in the country. It takes 7 years adv. and costs more than a million dollars to execute each admitted killer. This is abuse of due process. Lawyers bilk (as usual) the system.

I have a good friend that is a criminal lawyer. I asked him...How can you represent someone that has fully admitted murdering someone?

His answer...."If I represent him and do "everything" I can to punch holes in the states case and he gets convicted .....then I sleep well. I know that this scumbag will NOT get off on appeal and will either spend the rest of his life in prison or will be executed....either way...Im happy."

Your assertion that someone should not be able to hire legal representation is of course unconstitutional.

And another thing, prisoners should work to pay for their confinement or restitution. Why should I be penalized with the costs of their penalty.

One more thing, when being executed, an inmate should be able to choose from a variety of methods from firing squad, to electric chair, to lethal injection, or whatever. Old age shouldn't be an option.

So now its convenient to stand on the principals of the Constitution. But the Constitutional requirement the ObamaMessiah be a "natural born citizen" you laugh at. GEEZEEE man, you are so predictable.

I have to agree. This is a story I can't even believe, and wish I'd never read. Tragic.

(05-19-2009 08:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Admitted Murders should not be able to spend one penny on lawyers. Here in Texas we execute more than any other state in the country. It takes 7 years adv. and costs more than a million dollars to execute each admitted killer. This is abuse of due process. Lawyers bilk (as usual) the system.

Of course

Quote:Texas is home to more verified wrongful convictions than any other state in the union.

http://ipoftexas.org/texas-cases/

That is the problem with the death penalty. It'd one thing if it was limited to admitted killers, but that's not the way it's done in Texas (or anywhere else that I know of).

For all the liberals that say, "The death penalty isn't a deterrent", well, it is for that scumbag, isn't it?

(05-19-2009 09:45 PM)jh Wrote:  

(05-19-2009 08:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Admitted Murders should not be able to spend one penny on lawyers. Here in Texas we execute more than any other state in the country. It takes 7 years adv. and costs more than a million dollars to execute each admitted killer. This is abuse of due process. Lawyers bilk (as usual) the system.

Of course

Quote:Texas is home to more verified wrongful convictions than any other state in the union.

http://ipoftexas.org/texas-cases/

That is the problem with the death penalty. It'd one thing if it was limited to admitted killers, but that's not the way it's done in Texas (or anywhere else that I know of).

Apples and... wagon wheels anyone?

(05-19-2009 09:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  And another thing, prisoners should work to pay for their confinement or restitution. Why should I be penalized with the costs of their penalty.

Because most of these a$$holes couldn't make enough doing honest work during a lifetime to pay for one year's salaries of one of the guards.

I favor the death penalty. But, I still have to ask what the purpose is. I don't really believe that deterrence is a big factor. And, I'm not concerned enough about retribution or vengeance in most cases to use that as a justification. IMHO, if it makes the victim's family sleep better at night, then that's really where I see value in it.

I favor the death penalty for the most heinous of crimes that actually take lives away. In NC it's arson, rape, and murder. For this type of thing, the boy's lively hood is dead.

(05-19-2009 09:58 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-19-2009 09:45 PM)jh Wrote:  

(05-19-2009 08:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Admitted Murders should not be able to spend one penny on lawyers. Here in Texas we execute more than any other state in the country. It takes 7 years adv. and costs more than a million dollars to execute each admitted killer. This is abuse of due process. Lawyers bilk (as usual) the system.

Of course

Quote:Texas is home to more verified wrongful convictions than any other state in the union.

http://ipoftexas.org/texas-cases/

That is the problem with the death penalty. It'd one thing if it was limited to admitted killers, but that's not the way it's done in Texas (or anywhere else that I know of).

Apples and... wagon wheels anyone?

No. The thread title is about expanding the death penalty. We're already making a mess of the system we have in place right now. Expanding it would make it worse. And there could be mitigating circumstances which would argue against the death penalty for even admitted killers, which is why even they deserve representation.

(05-19-2009 09:59 PM)I45owl Wrote:  But, I still have to ask what the purpose is. I don't really believe that deterrence is a big factor.

Purpose = Justice

as for Deterrence, I don't know how you figure up how much of a deterrence it is but there is a deterrence.

Make the Death Penalty applicable to speeding and start enforcing it and watch how drivers react on the road..

its about like those that say water boarding and torture 'never work', its absurd.

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God gave man authority to Judge Fairly and Justly and if mans court decides a person is to be put to death, then let there be no Glee, Mocking, Revelry, or Malice in Carrying Out the Execution.

When our job is done here on Earth, then it is God's turn to render His Judgment upon this person as He sees fit and this is none of our business or concern how God handles them on His terms.

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(05-19-2009 09:15 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  So now its convenient to stand on the principals of the Constitution. But the Constitutional requirement the ObamaMessiah be a "natural born citizen" you laugh at. GEEZEEE man, you are so predictable.

I don't recall laughing at the requirement....I do laugh at those that are obsessed with that particular issue.