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Quote:Not true. When the black kids came, the white parents pulled their kids and sent them to the private schools. Thats a fact.


I think CBHS was here in 1872. The elementary feeder schools that populated the high school in its current location were built in the mid to late 50's. Fact.
Kid, whoever is responsible for your bitterness has done you no favors. Do yourself one and leave this baloney behind.
04-27-2009 02:48 PM
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RE: Congrats to Michael Oher
Recognizing the sleaziness and self promotion from Implant makes anyone bitter?

Please...Oldtiger pegged this well...congrats to the kid for being in position to have a lot of attention lavished on him, making it next to impossible not to improve to some degree.

None of which changes the cheating and lying and manipulation that went on here. I believe he can read now. 4 years of college should at least do that. Being illiterate before BCS and being functionally illiterate before ole miss is not somethig to be proud of.

As has been mentioned a lot in this thread- nobody is impugning the contribution of parochial schools or the choices to attend a religious based one.

Which does not change the reasons for the proliferation of them in the Memphis (and other Southern towns) area being realted to integration.

Implant stands for so much of what is wrong in America- the attention seeeking salvation of a kid who happened to have a body amenable to football blocking notwithstanding.

This is only inspirational if you ignore the lying, rule breaking, rule bending, religious hypocrisy, racism, look at me attention seeking and bullying and manipulation of universities. Subtract all that, and this is a great story---through and through.
04-27-2009 03:01 PM
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I always wondered why the Tuhouys weren't kind enough to "adopt" any of Oher's six other brothers or sisters who languished in the system.
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(04-27-2009 03:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I always wondered why the Tuhouys weren't kind enough to "adopt" any of Oher's six other brothers or sisters who languished in the system.

That's as shallow a statement made so far. I don't think I'll adopt a kid at Youth Villages this Christmas because I can really afford to adopt two.
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Ehh...it is what it is.
04-28-2009 10:15 AM
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Mimi I tend to agree with a lot of what you've said about the situation. It's a great situation for Oher because without the Tuohys who knows where he'd be, definitely not holding a degree of any kind or playing in the NFL. I wouldn't have any issue with BCS for allowing guys like Oher to have a chance at an education if they would do that for kids without athletic gifts. While at White Station we had a RB on our team that copied all my work in our Spanish class, even the exams. I made an A in the class and he made a B somehow, which is pretty sad considering he copied all my work. Anyway, the next year he transferred to BCS and played for them. His grades were awful and his family had no money so he obviously got a scholarship. The guy couldn't even make an A when copying A graded assignments. Where was my scholarship? Oh wait I didn't play football. While I don't have a problem with Oher or my guy taking advantage of situations I do have a problem with how they select kids. Kind of funny anyway because BCS was a downgrade from White Station anyway.
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How they select kids?
Run us through your application process for a scholarship at BCS with particular attention as to how and why they turned you down.

Oops.
04-29-2009 06:47 AM
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(04-28-2009 10:09 PM)Chitown Tiger Wrote:  Mimi I tend to agree with a lot of what you've said about the situation. It's a great situation for Oher because without the Tuohys who knows where he'd be, definitely not holding a degree of any kind or playing in the NFL. I wouldn't have any issue with BCS for allowing guys like Oher to have a chance at an education if they would do that for kids without athletic gifts. While at White Station we had a RB on our team that copied all my work in our Spanish class, even the exams. I made an A in the class and he made a B somehow, which is pretty sad considering he copied all my work. Anyway, the next year he transferred to BCS and played for them. His grades were awful and his family had no money so he obviously got a scholarship. The guy couldn't even make an A when copying A graded assignments. Where was my scholarship? Oh wait I didn't play football. While I don't have a problem with Oher or my guy taking advantage of situations I do have a problem with how they select kids. Kind of funny anyway because BCS was a downgrade from White Station anyway.

I have watched this thread pretty closely without chiming in...until now. Chitown's premise is pretty close to spot on.

I am a Briarcrest graduate. I was there when the school opened. I graduated in the first 4 year senior class. I was a classmate of Mrs. Tuohy. She was a nice person then, but I don't know her now and haven't seen her since graduation day. I can't speak to her present day situation, but what she and Sean did for Michael was and is commendable. Were there ulterior motives? I can't and won't answer that because I don't know the condition of the Tuohys' hearts. Was Briarcrest(mostly Hugh Freeze) funneling players to Ole Miss? Absolutely. In return, Freeze received a nice job there under Coach Doh. Package deal for delivering Oher and Hardy? Maybe, but its not illegal and we even do it, too. I believe that he's now coaching at Lambuth, but can't remember exactly.

My son had some classes with Michael and said that he was a nice guy but not very bright academically. I have no doubt that he got tutoring and all the extra help that he needed. Evidently the extra help and effort on Michael's part paid off. He graduated from high school and went on to graduate from Ole Miss. Maybe not with honors from each institution, but he graduated. For that, I am happy for the young man.

My support and much of my affection for the school ended the day that Joe Clayton retired and Tim Hillen became the new President of the school. From that point on, Briarcrest ceased, in my opinion, to be a place where one could get an "academically excellent Christian Education" and instead started to adopt a "prep school" mentality with a focus on athletics. In the early days, Briarcrest was as much known for its outstanding fine arts programs and academics as it was for athletics. The band program for many years was the best in this region. Sadly, that is no longer the case. Just drive by the campus and you'll see where the focus is.

Is Briarcrest still a good school? I think so, but the farther they drift away from their original mission, the more difficult it will be to maintain those standards that the early pioneers of Briarcrest worked so hard to establish and maintain.

There. I've said my piece. This is my opinion. I'll step back now and watch some more.
04-29-2009 08:48 AM
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(04-29-2009 06:47 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  How they select kids?
Run us through your application process for a scholarship at BCS with particular attention as to how and why they turned you down.

Oops.

I was referring to how they select kids like Oher, not like me. Since they are doing the "Christian" thing they by taking kids from poor backgrounds then they should grab some kids not based on athletics for a change. Anyways, why would I pay thousands of dollars to attend a lesser school(not saying that to be a douche, it's just a fact)?
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Quote:I was referring to how they select kids like Oher, not like me. Since they are doing the "Christian" thing they by taking kids from poor backgrounds then they should grab some kids not based on athletics for a change. Anyways, why would I pay thousands of dollars to attend a lesser school(not saying that to be a douche, it's just a fact)?

They probably do, but it just isn't book / movie material.
My only point is that had you met the financial need to merit a scholarship and applied, you would have received one. In fact, they would help you find the award. No biggie.
Oh, and when I sell my house, I get to advertise as "WSHS district." Cha-ching.
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(04-29-2009 02:21 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
Quote:I was referring to how they select kids like Oher, not like me. Since they are doing the "Christian" thing they by taking kids from poor backgrounds then they should grab some kids not based on athletics for a change. Anyways, why would I pay thousands of dollars to attend a lesser school(not saying that to be a douche, it's just a fact)?

They probably do, but it just isn't book / movie material.
My only point is that had you met the financial need to merit a scholarship and applied, you would have received one. In fact, they would help you find the award. No biggie.
Oh, and when I sell my house, I get to advertise as "WSHS district." Cha-ching.

Hopefully WSHS keeps it's luster, I hear it's sliding a bit, hopefully not though. Good luck selling the house though, seem like rough waters right now.
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