(04-21-2009 02:11 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, Bush did make many "plots" more menacing than they really were-most of which didn't start yet or had no way of starting and was all talk. So yeah, I do question how real this "attack" was.

Yeah, we shouldn't piss of Muslims because they may get mad and attack us.

Hey, DIPSHIT, 3000+ GDamn dead Americans should fuckin' TELL you that that doesn't f'n matter.

GDamn, the country is being ran right now by dumb f'n idiots like yourself. I'm just glad I'm not living in a f'n liberal hellhole of a large city right now. When your asses are nuked, don't look at me. I'll be the FIRST one protesting against going to war when you idiots reimpose the draft because you idiots brought the damn war on itself. You created it, YOU fight it.

(04-21-2009 02:22 PM)GGniner Wrote:  think back to pre-911

that attack was so over the top of what any of us can conceive as possible. Had the Govt. warned of such an attack, we would've said they were fearmongering for some nefarious purpose. That there was no way something that crazy coule be possible. First who would kill themselves for 72 virgins? second, yeah right they wouldn't hijack the plan with box cutters after months of taking flying classes......then it happened.

in the post-911 America, Idiotic conspiracy theories and hand wringing of those in power is the byproduct of National Security. The Sheep trying to slaughter the shepherd, for protecting them from Wolves.

NO NO NO now GG !!!!!

The very own X-Files 'Lone Gunmen' have stated, that since their Fake TV Episode where the Jumbo Jet was being computer driven into the World Trade Center New York aired before 911, THAT IT HAD TO BE "An Inside Job" using THEIR IDEA !!!!!!

And I for one and not nearly about to dispute the Lone Gunmen !!!!!

I mean where would I ever find Genius Experts to Equal them ?????

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(04-21-2009 02:39 PM)Tripster Wrote:  The very own X-Files 'Lone Gunmen' have stated, that since their Fake TV Episode where the Jumbo Jet was being computer driven into the World Trade Center New York aired before 911, THAT IT HAD TO BE "An Inside Job" using THEIR IDEA !!!!!!

Yeah, it never happened. Fire can't destroy buildings. Only explosives. See, this amazingly intelligent DUer proved it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...g_id=56836

(04-21-2009 02:08 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-21-2009 01:45 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Doesn't this quote bother people?

Quote:The Obama administration released pages of unredacted classified information on the techniques used to question captured terrorist leaders but pulled out its black marker when it came to the details of what those interrogations achieved.

More than a little biased the way that this administration did this. No wonder the Big 0 had to visit Langley to soothe hard feelings.

Sounds a lot like what Bush did with Global Warming. Of course, you had no problem with that.

Hint: adding the "stirring the pot" icon after an unintelligble post doesn't make it better.

Now, for some posters I might ask, "What do you mean?" But w/ you, I really don't care.

(04-21-2009 02:46 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(04-21-2009 02:39 PM)Tripster Wrote:  The very own X-Files 'Lone Gunmen' have stated, that since their Fake TV Episode where the Jumbo Jet was being computer driven into the World Trade Center New York aired before 911, THAT IT HAD TO BE "An Inside Job" using THEIR IDEA !!!!!!

Yeah, it never happened. Fire can't destroy buildings. Only explosives. See, this amazingly intelligent DUer proved it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...g_id=56836

Would be a clever experiment, if he had done it right.

(04-21-2009 02:46 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Yeah, it never happened. Fire can't destroy buildings. Only explosives. See, this amazingly intelligent DUer proved it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...g_id=56836

WOW Robert !!!! You mean you actually used Rabbit Cage Wire and Kerosene with some K-Mart Concrete Blocks and it held up just fine with a Newspaper Fire ???? Un-fargin-Believable !!!!!

GEEZE !!!!!! THAT's IT REB !!!!!!!!!!!


WE ARE GONNA BE RICHER THAN FREGGIN JED CLAMPETT !!!!!!!!!!!!

You and I will set up a Skyscraper Corporation and build 140 Story Skyscrapers out of Rabbit Cage Wire and K-Mart Concrete Lawn Step Pads !!!!!!!!

Why in hell hasn't some one beat us to this Genius Idea yet !!!!!!!

Robert, you are "Da Man" (no, sorry, that's Obamagog's Title), but you can be "Da Boy" for giving me and Reb this $1.2 Trillion Dollar Idea !!!!!!!!

Now we can paint targets on all our Tallest Buildings and have a Reality TV Show on Al JaJizm where Idiot Islamic Suicide Kamikaze Types compete to "Bring Down Da Howze" ....

Sorry Barry Hussein, but we need to borrow the name 'Da Howze' for a while - - and since this Show will be predominantly Muslim in Competitors, we know you won't mind and we will even let William Ayers and Hugo Chavez be Guest Hosts for a couple of Episodes !!!!!!!!

Man we are gonna be filthy rich and will now finally have to PAY INCOME TAX using the Obamagog Richman/Poorman Tax Scale ...... :ncaabbs:

Now Barry Hussein, you can Hostilely Take Over Boeing, GE, Pratt & Whitney and all sorts of OTHER Private Corporations, because they are going to be making money HAND OVER FIST from Brand New Jumbo Jet Orders (Hand Over Fist there Barry, "Fist" as in Fisting) - - WE KNEW YOU'D LOVE IT ...

Oh and Robert, "STOP PLAYING WITH MATCHES & KEROSENE AROUND THE DETONATORS and C4" ...

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That's not Robert. Then again, I don't think it's Robert. I could be wrong. The two think exactly alike.

(04-21-2009 02:11 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, Bush did make many "plots" more menacing than they really were-most of which didn't start yet or had no way of starting and was all talk. So yeah, I do question how real this "attack" was.

The world according to Robert. If you don't want to believe something, then don't.

(04-21-2009 05:19 PM)Rebel Wrote:  That's not Robert. Then again, I don't think it's Robert. I could be wrong. The two think exactly alike.

It's Robert and we ain't cuttin' him in on the TV Rights either.



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(04-21-2009 01:00 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Is it just me or does Obama spend more time and effort on trying to make Bush look bad than he does trying to make this country good?

It's not just you. I'd have restated it - does Obama spend just as much time and effort on trying to make this country look bad as he does trying to make Bush look bad?

It seems we got the best intelligence from trickery not torture...... No.......


Other than that. fascinating read.................... Good thread. There's two sides to every coin. The wise realize that.

Another flip side.... I wonder how many people were tortured trying to find a link between 9-11 and Saddam or any link between Al Quadea and Saddam. You know a couple of people had wet nuts and a car battery overt that. That's the problem with torture folks. YOU CAN"T RELY ON WHAT they will tell you. They will tell you anything. We got the good stuff with trickery that wasn't torture.

(04-21-2009 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It seems we got the best intelligence from trickery not torture...... No.......


Other than that. fascinating read.................... Good thread. There's two sides to every coin. The wise realize that.

Yeah, now the entire WORLD knows...including our enemies. Good move, dipsh1t.

Hey, why doesn't President Jugears release the information on the SUCCESS of the program? Why doesn't this dumb f'n moron get out of campaign mode and start governing? Can someone PLEASE tell this idiot he's ALREADY PRESIDENT!?

(04-21-2009 09:54 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Hey, why doesn't President Jugears release the information on the SUCCESS of the program?

because that will make Bush look good and he can't have that happen.

(04-21-2009 09:54 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Why doesn't this dumb f'n moron get out of campaign mode and start governing? Can someone PLEASE tell this idiot he's ALREADY PRESIDENT!?

Why can't his handlers see this and tell him? Is this another case of the emperor's new clothes? Did it occur to anyone that maybe he's not ready to govern?

(04-21-2009 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It seems we got the best intelligence from trickery not torture...... No.......


Other than that. fascinating read.................... Good thread. There's two sides to every coin. The wise realize that.

Yep, you are 100% Correct .....

Obamagog's Coin just happens to be a Pure Gold, Diamond Encrusted "Two Faced Coin".

Feels good to be Right and be agreed with don't it ??

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(04-21-2009 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It seems we got the best intelligence from trickery not torture...... No.......


Other than that. fascinating read.................... Good thread. There's two sides to every coin. The wise realize that.

Well this morning some left wing loon on CNN was saying that pumping a terrorist up with drugs also amounts to torture.

We wouldn't be having this discussion if Bush had handed out blanket pardons to all the CIA and Administration Officials like I suggested.

It doesn't matter what some left wing loon thinks. Pumping a terrorist with sodium pentathol isn't torture. As long as they use a clean needle.

According to this new administration, raising your voice to your wife is torture.

(04-22-2009 07:03 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(04-21-2009 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It seems we got the best intelligence from trickery not torture...... No.......


Other than that. fascinating read.................... Good thread. There's two sides to every coin. The wise realize that.

Well this morning some left wing loon on CNN was saying that pumping a terrorist up with drugs also amounts to torture.

We wouldn't be having this discussion if Bush had handed out blanket pardons to all the CIA and Administration Officials like I suggested.

I guess that would suggest what they did was wrong and should never be used again. When its a fact it saved American lives/cities and we learned most of what we know about AQ from it.

This will not go to far in reality, if they actually went on a Soviet style Show Trial, the top witnesses called as Defense Witnesses would be Top Democrats in Congress who all signed off on these things.

"Now calling to the stand, Hillary Clinton..."

Honestly I can see both sides of this. Go read a Huffington Post or a Daily Kos and you feel one way. Read some of this thread and I feel another way. UUggghhhhh..........