I believe this is the same as the NYT article but it's from a car site.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-moto...-plan.html

They are getting rid of every brand that I've ever owned. Pontiac, Saturn, Saab, Hummer, sheesh!

Well they aren't totally killing Pontiac but it will become apart of Chevy.

Bout f'n time.

Link didn't open for me. What concessions are they getting from the unions?

(02-18-2009 11:25 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Link didn't open for me. What concessions are they getting from the unions?

They are making them take $1.50 an hour so we can compete with the Chinese. Afterall, these guys are just lazy bums and not worth any amount of money they are paid.

The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

(02-19-2009 04:28 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

The problem with the camaro is the name camaro. Also, it has no amenities.

I work at a car lot. The only Pontiac that ever really sells is the Grand Prix.

(02-19-2009 07:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 04:28 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

The problem with the camaro is the name camaro. Also, it has no amenities.

It's one of the best selling cars of all time. I don't get your point.

The Pontiac G8 is a monster - and with the inevitable Pontiac fire sale, I may have just found the next Lord Stanley Family Truckster....

(02-18-2009 11:21 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Bout f'n time.

Rebel:

Agreed. My initial thought was, "what they h*ll took so long?"

(02-19-2009 03:59 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-18-2009 11:25 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Link didn't open for me. What concessions are they getting from the unions?

They are making them take $1.50 an hour so we can compete with the Chinese.

That's a good start but I think the Big 3 can get it lower.

(02-19-2009 03:59 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Afterall, these guys are just lazy bums and not worth any amount of money they are paid.

If car company "A" can build cars for X amount of dollars and another company can do it for less then that's proof car company "A" is over paying. Tell me, how much do you pay a guy to tighten lug nuts all day? Building a car is not skilled labor - management has engineered it so even a monkey or a democrat can do it.

(02-19-2009 12:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  If car company "A" can build cars for X amount of dollars and another company can do it for less then that's proof car company "A" is over paying. Tell me, how much do you pay a guy to tighten lug nuts all day? Building a car is not skilled labor - management has engineered it so even a monkey or a democrat can do it.

Part 1 goes for any job. Part 2 is a bit mean-spirited, but, well, this is the Spin Room.

(02-19-2009 04:28 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

Wait. You watch NASCAR? Who would have thought a southerner that lives in Georgia would watch cars drive around in an oval? Btw, what happens to your precious "sport" when the Big 3 go bankrupt?

(02-19-2009 02:22 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 04:28 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

Wait. You watch NASCAR? Who would have thought a southerner that lives in Georgia would watch cars drive around in an oval? Btw, what happens to your precious "sport" when the Big 3 go bankrupt?

I guess we have to go back to "Tractor Pulls"....

Speaking of which, why don't you come down, we will hook you up between two tractors... and "pull" you...

What's the cover charge?

(02-19-2009 02:22 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ......what happens to your precious "sport" when the Big 3 go bankrupt?

Toyota's, Nissan's and Mazda's race around a square track?
Cats and dogs live in harmony?
NIU gets a Big Ten football game at Huskie Stadium?
WMD Owl changes his name to Vote Ralph Nader Pigeon?

Of all these, the least likely to happen is NIU getting a Big Ten team to visit the Dog Pound.

(02-19-2009 09:06 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 07:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 04:28 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The new Chevy Camaro looks pretty good. They used it as a Pace Car for the Daytona 500 the other day. You could base a Trans-Am on that real easy.

Aside from the Trans Am, Pointiac can crash. I can't remember the last time I saw a brand new Pontiac with dealer plates on the road.

The problem with the camaro is the name camaro. Also, it has no amenities.

It's one of the best selling cars of all time. I don't get your point.

I guess I'm too old to not have any amenities. When comparing the G37 to the Camaro, I don't see many 30 somethings buying the Camaro. I think of tight blue blue jeans, plaid shirts, and mustaches. Eww.

(02-19-2009 04:03 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I guess I'm too old to not have any amenities. When comparing the G37 to the Camaro, I don't see many 30 somethings buying the Camaro. I think of tight blue blue jeans, plaid shirts, and mustaches. Eww.

Just remember, the same way our parents may clamor for the good ol' days of the 50' and 60's, that many of us will clamor for the good ol' days of the 70's and 80's, one day our kids will clamor for the 90's and 00's.

Silly kids.