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RE: Houston: Suburbs vs in the Loop
(01-29-2009 11:22 PM)ArmyChick07 Wrote:  
(01-29-2009 11:10 PM)gsloth Wrote:  OK, ArmyChick - when you get your house, are you going to want part A or part B from the following commercial.



I don't think you need to know Dutch to understand it.

Ah, says the video has been removed! Dang.

Really? Still works for me.

Try going here. It's been viewed over 2 million times, so I cannot believe it's been removed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ZZreXEqSY
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(01-30-2009 10:09 AM)ArmyChick07 Wrote:  I have no desire to go home every weekend and spend 3 hours mowing 6 acres, like my parents do.

I have a lot of acres, but not much yard. I like to let the woods grow relatively close - maybe ten feet away on the west, 25 on the south, so my yard is small. But I gave up doing the work myself, and have a man who comes by every so often and does the work. Of course, i can pride myself on helping the economy and saving one job.
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(01-30-2009 10:15 AM)RiceDoc Wrote:  And with this advice, perhaps we need to start (renew?) the campaign to rename OO. In deference to history, I'd suggest Older, Wiser Lemur. ("OWL")

Older, anyway. Wisdom starts at 40, so i have that covered, sorta. Besides, wiser is a comparative term, unlike wise. Those who remember me at 20 know wisdom was largely absent. Lemur? Lemur?
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RE: Houston: Suburbs vs in the Loop
(01-30-2009 02:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 10:15 AM)RiceDoc Wrote:  And with this advice, perhaps we need to start (renew?) the campaign to rename OO. In deference to history, I'd suggest Older, Wiser Lemur. ("OWL")

Older, anyway. Wisdom starts at 40, so i have that covered, sorta. Besides, wiser is a comparative term, unlike wise. Those who remember me at 20 know wisdom was largely absent. Lemur? Lemur?

Wisdom starts at 40? Not according to my kid - I still haven't reached at higher plateau! Lemur - surely you recall the "rally monkey/rally lemur" diatribe surrounding the national championship team and those following it... Besides, I blanked out when it came to a superlative starting with "L". 03-banghead
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(01-30-2009 03:21 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 02:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 10:15 AM)RiceDoc Wrote:  And with this advice, perhaps we need to start (renew?) the campaign to rename OO. In deference to history, I'd suggest Older, Wiser Lemur. ("OWL")

Older, anyway. Wisdom starts at 40, so i have that covered, sorta. Besides, wiser is a comparative term, unlike wise. Those who remember me at 20 know wisdom was largely absent. Lemur? Lemur?

Wisdom starts at 40? Not according to my kid - I still haven't reached at higher plateau! Lemur - surely you recall the "rally monkey/rally lemur" diatribe surrounding the national championship team and those following it... Besides, I blanked out when it came to a superlative starting with "L". 03-banghead

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I'm probably about your age, and also still a student so I can relate on the "why am I wasting money on rent again" question that pops up every month when you sign away a large chunk of your paycheck.

I bought a condo about a year and a half ago (just as the markets were starting to crash - my loan rate went up about 1/4 pt every half-day while they were trying to lock it down. ick.)

I'm paying almost twice what I paid to rent a really small, 1960s apartment a block or two from the science museum, on Binz. That place had perpetual roaches, mice, wife-beating neighbors, car thieves and anything left out got stolen pretty quick. That said, it was super cheap and I could walk to Rice. So that was my year of living really inside the loop (3rd ward). It was interesting, but it was time to go after I called the cops on the wifebeater for about the 4th time. The major plus was that it was pretty real city living. I had neighbors of every race and nationality, pretty much. And the walk through the museum district was beautiful every morning.

I now live down in "condo -land" just north of the 610 loop by Almeda. I LOVE my house, I wish I had bought it immediately upon starting grad school. There is NO WAY I would live further than 3 miles from Rice, because wasting your life on a commute is totally insane to me. So I still live "in the loop" but I like to think I get a lot of the advantages of "suburb living" without having to drive all the way the heck out there. I do agree with those that say for kids it's necessary for the schools, though.

Anyway, a couple of tips on choosing a house/condo if you decide to go that route:

1) don't buy the fixer upper. I'm handy with a table saw and nail gun, and I had it in mind to buy something needing some work because fixing it up would be "fun". I ended up buying the nicest place I looked at after a deal fell through on a fixer. I was REALLY LUCKY because unless you have money to burn, even DIY house repair is expensive. The additional problem is that with the housing market so unsteady, you may not be able to turn your invested improvements (which could be thousands) into actual return come time to sell. For me, it took me a year just to redo a powder bath. So the time is a significant factor also, and you need to have a lot of it.

2) condos can be better than houses for single people (no lawn-mowing), but some of the companies that manage them are very poorly run, and it's crucial to find out exactly who they are and find out if there have been complaints. Also find out about the monthly fees, which shouldn't be more than the mortgage! (something I found frequently in my search). If they don't have an assoc meeting at least twice a year, I'd be worried.

3) Get renters/contents insurance!! I did not do this, because I still had a bunch of dorm furniture, and I totally got burned after Hurricane Ike caused a lot of damage. The condo assoc does a "special assessment" to help cover the deductible for the insurance company ($1200) and most people with contents insurance get that covered. I had to pay. :(

That was a way longer comment than i expected, but I will say that the pluses of home-ownership are pretty big (being able to paint your walls a wacky color, or strip that awful texture, or have a garden, or buy a heavy piece of furniture because you don't have to worry about moving it - all very nice).
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(01-30-2009 05:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  On Walden Lake

That one's mine.
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I grew up in West University when my family moved down here from New Jersey and I don't think I'd want to live anywhere really far outside the Loop.

Right now I found a nice apartment in a 'fourplex' that's on the border between the Museum District and the Montrose areas. The rent is affordable and I have a private driveway area in the back which is nice because there have been thefts in my area. But I'm right on the edge of Boulevard Oaks, so the area still has somewhat of a quiet neighborhood feel to it. The proximity to downtown, midtown and everything just can't be beat. I'm no more than a 10 minute drive from UH or Rice.

One of my exes lived in the Meyerland/Westbury area just outside of 610 (S. Post Oak exit) and it seemed like a nice neighborhood that was decently affordable and still convenient to downtown and all the amenities that Houston offers. If I were to live in a suburb that'd be the place I would choose. It's not too cookie cutter and bland.
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(01-30-2009 05:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 03:21 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 02:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 10:15 AM)RiceDoc Wrote:  And with this advice, perhaps we need to start (renew?) the campaign to rename OO. In deference to history, I'd suggest Older, Wiser Lemur. ("OWL")

Older, anyway. Wisdom starts at 40, so i have that covered, sorta. Besides, wiser is a comparative term, unlike wise. Those who remember me at 20 know wisdom was largely absent. Lemur? Lemur?

Wisdom starts at 40? Not according to my kid - I still haven't reached at higher plateau! Lemur - surely you recall the "rally monkey/rally lemur" diatribe surrounding the national championship team and those following it... Besides, I blanked out when it came to a superlative starting with "L". 03-banghead

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RE: Houston: Suburbs vs in the Loop
(02-01-2009 03:29 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 05:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 03:21 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 02:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-30-2009 10:15 AM)RiceDoc Wrote:  And with this advice, perhaps we need to start (renew?) the campaign to rename OO. In deference to history, I'd suggest Older, Wiser Lemur. ("OWL")

Older, anyway. Wisdom starts at 40, so i have that covered, sorta. Besides, wiser is a comparative term, unlike wise. Those who remember me at 20 know wisdom was largely absent. Lemur? Lemur?

Wisdom starts at 40? Not according to my kid - I still haven't reached at higher plateau! Lemur - surely you recall the "rally monkey/rally lemur" diatribe surrounding the national championship team and those following it... Besides, I blanked out when it came to a superlative starting with "L". 03-banghead

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Older Wiser Lunatic? 05-stirthepot

I'll buy that. Older goes without saying, even though I just said it. Wiser is always good, even if it only indicates that i have progressed from zero wisdom to single digits. Lunatic is fine, I've never wanted to run-of-the-mill anyway.

Seems like we both missed the obvious, though. How about Optimistic for the O? Optimistic Wildeyed ??? - always seem to hang up on the L.
Loon? Lorry? Lollapaloozza? Litigator? Lawmaker? Nah, I don't want to run for office, I'd have to get my taxes in order. Launderer? Oops, don't want to draw the attention of law enforcement. Thats it - Lawman! No, never mind. I'll stick with OO - already have the shirt.

Thanks anyway.
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(02-01-2009 09:38 AM)emmiesix Wrote:  1) don't buy the fixer upper. I'm handy with a table saw and nail gun, and I had it in mind to buy something needing some work because fixing it up would be "fun". I ended up buying the nicest place I looked at after a deal fell through on a fixer. I was REALLY LUCKY because unless you have money to burn, even DIY house repair is expensive. The additional problem is that with the housing market so unsteady, you may not be able to turn your invested improvements (which could be thousands) into actual return come time to sell. For me, it took me a year just to redo a powder bath. So the time is a significant factor also, and you need to have a lot of it.

Agreed wholeheartedly. Our place is only 12 years old, pre-dating the current "build a townhouse in 60 days, quality be damned" era, but there's still a decent amount (both time and $) of maintenance required...certainly more than we had anticipated. No question, we still come out ahead vs. renting a place of similar size and location, but instead of paying $2,500 a month in rent, we pay a lot less than that in mortgage/taxes (especially considering the interest deduction, which is worth a lot more to us now due to the marriage penalty, but that's another rant)...but when something comes up the thousands can add up pretty quickly. Point being, our spending on the house tends to be a lot more sporadic than it would be with an apartment.
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We've lived inside the city limits of three cities ... St. Louis, Dallas, and Houston. We lived within walking distance of Rice just on the Houston side of the West U. city limit while in Houston ('01-'08). I lived in an apartment on Greenbriar while at the Jones School ('92-'94).

Here's my take on the city/suburb thing in Houston - because the city of Houston proper is zoned/defined over such a large area - many of the nicer suburbs are a catastrophic commute into downtown compared to similar suburbs in other cities (see: Woodlands, The vs. Plano/Coppell/Lake Highlands). As such, if possible, I would be more biased towards picking city in Houston (if possible) than other places - PARTICULARLY IF YOU ARE COMMUTING INTO THE CITY.
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