Flames24Rulz Wrote:Well hopefully that'll shut up the MAC lovers on here that were glad Ball St. declined Boise's invitation.

Have fun in the GMAC Bowl or whatever crappy bowl no one gives a crap about.

But still a lot better than playing a lower division playoff game in front of 5k with nobody else in the world caring at all. I forgot that you had it so good.

The way I see it is a MAC team beat a top 12 team in the nation last night, not too shabby! Not everyday a MAC team can boast a victory against a top 12 opponent. Congrats to Buffalo. What a week that would have been if they beat UConn in bball too.

Flames24Rulz Wrote:Well hopefully that'll shut up the MAC lovers on here that were glad Ball St. declined Boise's invitation.

Have fun in the GMAC Bowl or whatever crappy bowl no one gives a crap about.

And do you think anyone on earth cares about the Insight or Alamo Bowl, uhhh nope.

MaddDawgz02 Wrote:And do you think anyone on earth cares about the Insight or Alamo Bowl, uhhh nope.

Given the payouts, attendance, and viewership for those games...plenty of people do.

HuskieJ Wrote:

Flames24Rulz Wrote:Well hopefully that'll shut up the MAC lovers on here that were glad Ball St. declined Boise's invitation.

Have fun in the GMAC Bowl or whatever crappy bowl no one gives a crap about.

But still a lot better than playing a lower division playoff game in front of 5k with nobody else in the world caring at all. I forgot that you had it so good.

lol. I'm beginning to think that HuskieJ is not the brilliant tactician I once thought he was.

You honestly supported the MAC and Ball St in their decision to puss out against Boise State even if the game was against Boise State? I understand why you could think that way, but I'm sorry, that is completely false.

I was probably harsh in the "nobody cares" comment, but still. They could've played a 12-0 team matching up a pair of undefeateds (until yesterday, whoops) instead of playing a bad Big Ten team like Minnesota in the Motor City Bowl. Tell me what game the 'casual fan' would prefer in that instance.

Nobody "cares" about the outcome of virtually every non-BCS bowl except for gamblers and fans of the respective schools. The average fan watches them casually and the programs play in them for the exposure and extra practices.

Now if the NCAA were to institute a playoff like with basketball, people will manically fill out their brackets on selection day and watch on the edge of their seat. Of course, that will never happen because the auto BCS conferences led by the B10 and P10 will take their ball and go home.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

Rock Bottom Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

Neuqua Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Ball State ABSOLUTELY deserved that fate for being a bunch of wusses and turning down Boise State. And wow, the whining in this thread is pathetic about the announcers, GET OVER IT. But yeah, I'm glad Buffalo won, maybe Ball State will man up next time.

On a note of me not pissing everybody here off though, I'm VERY happy for Turner Gill. He's done a great job there, turning one of the worst programs in America into a conference champion in almost no time at all. Amazing what happens when you give a black coach a chance.

???

3 out of 119 coaches are black. That's a freaking joke.

How many Hispanics, Hawaiian-Somoans, Indians, or Asians are head coaches? Why not whine about that too. And why does the NFL have an incredibly disproportionate % of black players compared to the general population - it must be because of reverse racsim.

So black people are qualfied to play, but not to coach. Got it. That's why 70 percent of college players are black and about about 2 percent of their head coaches are. At least it makes sense now.

So, white people are qualified to coach, but not play. Got it. That's why blacks are only about 12% of the population but about 75%-80% of NFL players. At least it makes sense now.

niubrad00 Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:3 out of 119 coaches are black. That's a freaking joke.


So black people are qualfied to play, but not to coach. Got it. That's why 70 percent of college players are black and about about 2 percent of their head coaches are. At least it makes sense now.

Oh boy, here we go. OK, let's see. About 10% of the US population is black. So why aren't 10% of the football players black?? And why isn't that racist? Please answer these questions.

No one who ever whines about "there aren't enough black coaches" can EVER answer this question. It drives me nuts that the media gives so much credence to this issue but never addresses the player part of it. When someone whines about this issue I always ask why, if they were so racist, would team owners in the pros, and university presidents, be willing to let blacks play in order to win (assuming they are the best players in most cases) but not let black coaches in order to wine (if these coaches are truly better than some of their white counterparts, as these whiners claim).

The only answer I sometimes hear is, "well, the coaches are the power position and they don't want blacks to have power." First, especially in the pros, the whole premise to the response is highly questionable because most teams will get rid of their star coach before their star player if there is a power struggle b/w the two. Secondly, who really has the power? To a very large degree money is power, and the black star athletes almost always make more than their white coaches. And finally, if the country was so afraid of blacks having power, why did we elect a black president?

You people who whine about this "not enough black coaches" issue really are harming the case of people who are truly discriminated against.

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Now if the NCAA were to institute a playoff like with basketball, people will manically fill out their brackets on selection day and watch on the edge of their seat. Of course, that will never happen because the auto BCS conferences led by the B10 and P10 will take their ball and go home.
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It will happen. The question is when it will happen.
The majority of American football players are in favor of a playoff and even the most powerful administrator in football Mr. Delaney says that the public will eventually get their wish. The play-off system in NCAA 1a is inevitable.
The PAC 10 and Big 10 can initially play their separate Rose Bowl, but they too will succumb.

What a joke that OK is in over TX when TX beat them and also has a loss!

Rock Bottom Wrote:

niubrad00 Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:3 out of 119 coaches are black. That's a freaking joke.


So black people are qualfied to play, but not to coach. Got it. That's why 70 percent of college players are black and about about 2 percent of their head coaches are. At least it makes sense now.

Oh boy, here we go. OK, let's see. About 10% of the US population is black. So why aren't 10% of the football players black?? And why isn't that racist? Please answer these questions.

You people who whine about this "not enough black coaches" issue really are harming the case of people who are truly discriminated against.

So you think white people aren't as prevelant in football because of discrimination? How about they aren't as good at it? There are a lot of white players in hockey and baseball, and a lot of black players in football and basketball as of now. That's a different issue than the many very qualified black assistant coaches who are almost never given a chance by the good old boys network.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

Rock Bottom Wrote:

niubrad00 Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:3 out of 119 coaches are black. That's a freaking joke.


So black people are qualfied to play, but not to coach. Got it. That's why 70 percent of college players are black and about about 2 percent of their head coaches are. At least it makes sense now.

Oh boy, here we go. OK, let's see. About 10% of the US population is black. So why aren't 10% of the football players black?? And why isn't that racist? Please answer these questions.

You people who whine about this "not enough black coaches" issue really are harming the case of people who are truly discriminated against.

So you think white people aren't as prevelant in football because of discrimination? How about they aren't as good at it? There are a lot of white players in hockey and baseball, and a lot of black players in football and basketball as of now. That's a different issue than the many very qualified black assistant coaches who are almost never given a chance by the good old boys network.

Answer the question - why would owners/universities NOT discriminate at the player level because they want to win, but do so at the coaching level, even though they still want to win???

NObody , no one, never , etc are words oftentimes used wrecklessly.

Plenty of people DO care about the bowls. Money Talks. Fans & alums pay money to fly to destinations , book rooms and patronize local businesses. IT'S FUN to attend or watch on TV if you love college football for its pageantry, lore as well as competition . Who cares if some ratings dont match some mindless reality Springerlike show or Frosty the Snowman or Rudolph cartoons or Heidi during the holidays.

If you are NOT a fan of colege football it's okay - plenty of people also attend WWF,the Rodeo or Ballet. The entertainment tent is BIG .
Come inside & Get under the ones you enjoy.

cyberdawg Wrote:NObody , no one, never , etc are words oftentimes used wrecklessly.

Plenty of people DO care about the bowls. Money Talks. Fans & alums pay money to fly to destinations , book rooms and patronize local businesses. IT'S FUN to attend or watch on TV if you love college football for its pageantry, lore as well as competition . Who cares if some ratings dont match some mindless reality Springerlike show or Frosty the Snowman or Rudolph cartoons or Heidi during the holidays.

If you are NOT a fan of colege football it's okay - plenty of people also attend WWF,the Rodeo or Ballet. The entertainment tent is BIG .
Come inside & Get under the ones you enjoy.

I agree 100% - couldn't have said it better!

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

Rock Bottom Wrote:

niubrad00 Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:3 out of 119 coaches are black. That's a freaking joke.


So black people are qualfied to play, but not to coach. Got it. That's why 70 percent of college players are black and about about 2 percent of their head coaches are. At least it makes sense now.

Oh boy, here we go. OK, let's see. About 10% of the US population is black. So why aren't 10% of the football players black?? And why isn't that racist? Please answer these questions.

You people who whine about this "not enough black coaches" issue really are harming the case of people who are truly discriminated against.

So you think white people aren't as prevelant in football because of discrimination? How about they aren't as good at it? There are a lot of white players in hockey and baseball, and a lot of black players in football and basketball as of now. That's a different issue than the many very qualified black assistant coaches who are almost never given a chance by the good old boys network.

There you go. You just answered the question. Now why is it not possible for the opposite to be true with coaching? It's automatically discrimination and everyone wants to cry foul. It's a joke.

Any program would love to have a coach that can recruit and win...who the hell cares what he or she is..black, yellow, brown, white, sallow, light white dark white.... Turner Gill should and will get his chance to prove himself at another level..


Coaches are judged on wins and losses...