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Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Vaden is playing some very good ball. He has 11 points so far and the commentators are raving on him and pretty much saying he isn't coming back to UAB. He is looking very impressive with two great assist through crowded areas and 2 NBA range 3's.
he is number 28 in Blue
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2008 05:20 PM by jaymay2525.)
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05-28-2008 05:17 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
That's good for him. Unlike others here I think the key to UAB success next year is having a low post threat. We'll have plenty of shooters available.
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05-28-2008 06:29 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
I was looking for him. I saw the white team. I see they have 3 teams I believe.
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05-28-2008 06:46 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
when asked which player impressed you the most? Steve Lavin said Robert Vaden
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05-28-2008 07:33 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
BlazerMatt Wrote:Why I think Vaden will go pro:
He knows if he comes back, he is not going to get anywhere near the same number of shots per game that he got this year. PD3, a full season of Toney, an improved AJ, and T-Rod are all going to cut into his shots, and therefore his numbers are sure to go down.
Those are good points. As a alumni and fan of UAB, I hope he stays. However, Robert has to do what is best for Robert and his family. I wish him the best in his decision.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
BlazerMatt Wrote:Why I think Vaden will go pro:
He knows if he comes back, he is not going to get anywhere near the same number of shots per game that he got this year. PD3, a full season of Toney, an improved AJ, and T-Rod are all going to cut into his shots, and therefore his numbers are sure to go down.
The flip side is with all that you mentioned is the number of shots go down. The quality of shots improve. It also puts him in the situation that he can become more well rounded as a player. The NBA does not put as much stock into stats as the average fan.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Are Sharpe and Huffman anywhere to be found at these events? I know Huffman isn't coming back, but what is the latest on Sharpe (besides the obvious fact that he needs to get and stay eligible)?
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05-28-2008 08:58 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Sharpe was not invited and neither was Huffman.
Vaden is drawing serious raves.
Bigpoppa is right, though, on the stats. NBA doesn't really care about averages. There are players at the camp who averaged 6 ppg who are going to get drafted.
All they want to see from Vaden is whether he can defend and take people off the dribble and hit the floater. They know he is an NBA shooter. The verdict is still out on whether he has the rest of the game.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, I still don't think he's ready. I think he's improving his stock, but I don't think he's prepared for the NBA just yet. The guys calling the games are not making any picks in the draft, so I put little in to anything they say. Only thing I'm scared of is him deciding that being drafted mid to late second round is worth the shot. That's a big choice to make. And I'm not so sure that he's going to get a lot less shots this season. Maybe some, but he could still average 18-20pts/game. I mean, he would still be the biggest scoring threat on the team.
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05-28-2008 11:14 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
When do we find out what his decision will be? When is the last day he can withdraw his name?
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05-28-2008 11:39 PM |
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
I find it funny that he's in a facebook group about him staying.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
dragondrummer Wrote:When do we find out what his decision will be? When is the last day he can withdraw his name?
June 16.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Vaden will do what he thinks is best for himself, and I'll respect his choice whatever that may be. Having said that, however, I think he'd be selling himself short by leaving a year early. He definitely has a chance to improve his stock even more next year by being on a team that has a chance to make some noise in the postseason. But more than simply improving his stock, he'll have a chance to improve his game. He simply is not that good when he has to put the ball on the floor. As a matter of fact, I'd say he's pretty average when he's driving to the basket at best. If he comes back next year and can put a little more work into dribble penetration, he could be a real force in the NBA.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
I think just the fact that he's there and being noticed will put him in a better position for next year. No doubt in my mind he'll improve in the off-season and in games. Being a senior and having the scouts see the improvements he's likely to make will make him a first-rounder next year in my opinion.
On a side note, has anyone thought about what kind of recognition UAB is going to get next year with Cousins, and maybe one or two more in the McDonalds All American game? And THEN, IF Vaden goes in the first round? And what about Delaney? Anyone think he'll be a draft candidate? Personally, I think he's got NBA talent. But could he be a true PG in the NBA is the question? I don't think he could play the 2. Maybe, but doubtful.
BTW, there's no draft camp anymore after this year. NBA thinks it's not worth the money spent on it, and is killing it after this year.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Suede27 Wrote:I think just the fact that he's there and being noticed will put him in a better position for next year. No doubt in my mind he'll improve in the off-season and in games. Being a senior and having the scouts see the improvements he's likely to make will make him a first-rounder next year in my opinion.
On a side note, has anyone thought about what kind of recognition UAB is going to get next year with Cousins, and maybe one or two more in the McDonalds All American game? And THEN, IF Vaden goes in the first round? And what about Delaney? Anyone think he'll be a draft candidate? Personally, I think he's got NBA talent. But could he be a true PG in the NBA is the question? I don't think he could play the 2. Maybe, but doubtful.
BTW, there's no draft camp anymore after this year. NBA thinks it's not worth the money spent on it, and is killing it after this year.
I think the possibility of Delaney going pro will be determined by how much extra practice he put on his mid/long range jumper. If he improved a decent amount on that and still has most of his driving and ball-handling ability I think he will have a decent chance.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
It would be interesting to see how he would run the point actually having more scoring threats on the floor. We've only seen him run the point when the cupboard was bare.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
dragondrummer Wrote:Suede27 Wrote:I think just the fact that he's there and being noticed will put him in a better position for next year. No doubt in my mind he'll improve in the off-season and in games. Being a senior and having the scouts see the improvements he's likely to make will make him a first-rounder next year in my opinion.
On a side note, has anyone thought about what kind of recognition UAB is going to get next year with Cousins, and maybe one or two more in the McDonalds All American game? And THEN, IF Vaden goes in the first round? And what about Delaney? Anyone think he'll be a draft candidate? Personally, I think he's got NBA talent. But could he be a true PG in the NBA is the question? I don't think he could play the 2. Maybe, but doubtful.
BTW, there's no draft camp anymore after this year. NBA thinks it's not worth the money spent on it, and is killing it after this year.
I think the possibility of Delaney going pro will be determined by how much extra practice he put on his mid/long range jumper. If he improved a decent amount on that and still has most of his driving and ball-handling ability I think he will have a decent chance.
If Delaney still has his quickness, he is the type of player that could make a career out of being a role player. Shut down defender and has so much speed on offense you have to match him up with a strong defender.
Next year with Delaney on the court, it would not surprise me to see Vaden avg 25+ per game, as he will be getting really good looks at the basket and will be guarded with bigger slower defenders. AJ and Delaney will cause haoc with their speed. A small line-up could see a player like T-Rod or Toney being covered by a teams worst defender. And, then if Sharpe is eligible what true center can chase him around the court. A team will have to score a lot of pts to beat this team next year.
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RE: Vaden on ESPNU in Predraft Camp
Absolutely and honestly speaking as an academic, I think every athlete who leaves school early without a degree is doing himself a disservice.
I have never bought, nor will I ever buy, the argument that "I'm doing what's best for my family." O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush are proof if you are a professional-quality athlete, your family is being taken care of. For every athlete caught, hundreds more exist under the surface.
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