RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:They've built and maintained superhighways pretty well

States are responsible for those.

The Interstate system is Federal.

....but not maintained by the federal government. You might want to reread the exchange. ...unless you think there's an army of USDOT trucks rolling down the interstate.

They built them with FEDERAL MONEY. Back in Eisenhower's days. Look it up.

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Monopolies are illegal per the Sherman Antitrust Act. Show me a privately-owned monopoly.

Re-read the act.

Quote:Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court.

Microsoft has been found guilty of multiple violations in court.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:I work as a contract corporate IT Trainer, and could proabably buy you out three times over.

Buy me out? Not understanding what you're saying here, but I'm going to go ahead and say BS.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:They've built and maintained superhighways pretty well

States are responsible for those.

The Interstate system is Federal.

....but not maintained by the federal government. You might want to reread the exchange. ...unless you think there's an army of USDOT trucks rolling down the interstate.

They built them with FEDERAL MONEY. Back in Eisenhower's days. Look it up.

Ok, reread the exchange Again, I.e., specifically the part about the built and maintained.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Microsoft has been found guilty of multiple violations in court.

Which court? Which ruling? You're the one making the allegations, so I would assume you have these on hand?

Interstates are owned and maintained by the states. However, they usually also receive federal funding to help with the cost. That might be the confusion.

fsquid Wrote:Interstates are owned and maintained by the states. However, they usually also receive federal funding to help with the cost. That might be the confusion.

No confusion on my part.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Better yet, let's use the conservative/libertarian philosophy of letting corporate America of dictating everything because we all know what a bang-up job they do.

Please name 1 thing that the government does well or a problem it has solved?

The space program alone has come up with some of the greatest technological advances of the 20th century.

I said name something that the government does well?...NASA is NOT a shining example of success by any stretch of the imagination...Other than the initial space race(which used the talents of those trained in the free market)...They have had as many disasters as successes.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Please name one monopoly that exists in the free market without government sanction...Its totally impossible.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Better yet, let's use the conservative/libertarian philosophy of letting corporate America of dictating everything because we all know what a bang-up job they do.

They do a great job and it's easier to control corporate America, as a citizen, than the government.

This is the argument that statists and expecially socialists cant stand....Citizens control the free market by "stopping doing business with those that we dislike for ANY reason"...Citizens have NO control over the government...You CANT stop doing business with them unless you wish to have someone with a gun come and visit you.

Or voting. You forget that one.

Voting has no bearing on your ability interact with the government...As long as it exists..It has the force...You are its slave.

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Monopolies are illegal per the Sherman Antitrust Act. Show me a privately-owned monopoly.

Having a monopoly is NOT illegal. It is only illegal if you use your monopolization to your advantage to keep competetors out of the market.

Fanatical Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Monopolies are illegal per the Sherman Antitrust Act. Show me a privately-owned monopoly.

The load of crap is "Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy". Obviously they can, and so we have the Sherman Antitrust Act.

Sherman is a totally irrevelant piece of legislation dreamed up by statists...NO monopolies can exist in a totally free market...Please prove me wrong.

RebelKev Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:Interstates are owned and maintained by the states. However, they usually also receive federal funding to help with the cost. That might be the confusion.

No confusion on my part.

Good, we are all on the same page. Carry on.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Monopolies are illegal per the Sherman Antitrust Act. Show me a privately-owned monopoly.

The load of crap is "Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy". Obviously they can, and so we have the Sherman Antitrust Act.

Sherman is a totally irrevelant piece of legislation dreamed up by statists...NO monopolies can exist in a totally free market...Please prove me wrong.

Prove yourself right. We're waiting.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Better yet, let's use the conservative/libertarian philosophy of letting corporate America of dictating everything because we all know what a bang-up job they do.

They do a great job and it's easier to control corporate America, as a citizen, than the government.

This is the argument that statists and expecially socialists cant stand....Citizens control the free market by "stopping doing business with those that we dislike for ANY reason"...Citizens have NO control over the government...You CANT stop doing business with them unless you wish to have someone with a gun come and visit you.

Or voting. You forget that one.

Voting has no bearing on your ability interact with the government...As long as it exists..It has the force...You are its slave.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:ONLY government creates monopolies....Monopolies can NOT exist in a totally free market economy.

That is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

Please name one monopoly that exists in the free market without government sanction...Its totally impossible.

Free market and government sanction? In a purely free market, there is no government sanction.

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Microsoft has been found guilty of multiple violations in court.

Which court? Which ruling? You're the one making the allegations, so I would assume you have these on hand?

Are you still living in a cave? Microsoft spends more time in court than they do working on service packs.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Better yet, let's use the conservative/libertarian philosophy of letting corporate America of dictating everything because we all know what a bang-up job they do.

Please name 1 thing that the government does well or a problem it has solved?

The space program alone has come up with some of the greatest technological advances of the 20th century.

I said name something that the government does well?...NASA is NOT a shining example of success by any stretch of the imagination...Other than the initial space race(which used the talents of those trained in the free market)...They have had as many disasters as successes.

Big business brought us the Edsel.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Better yet, let's use the conservative/libertarian philosophy of letting corporate America of dictating everything because we all know what a bang-up job they do.

Please name 1 thing that the government does well or a problem it has solved?

The space program alone has come up with some of the greatest technological advances of the 20th century.

I said name something that the government does well?...NASA is NOT a shining example of success by any stretch of the imagination...Other than the initial space race(which used the talents of those trained in the free market)...They have had as many disasters as successes.

You really should do some research into the products that have come out of the space program.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Microsoft has been found guilty of multiple violations in court.

Which court? Which ruling? You're the one making the allegations, so I would assume you have these on hand?

Are you still living in a cave? Microsoft spends more time in court than they do working on service packs.

Question isn't that hard, really. You said they've been found guilty. Name the court and name the case.