clpack
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Collegefootballnews preseason ranking: WAC teams
33. Fresno St.
34. Boise St.
83. Nevada
92. Hawai'i
94. La Tech
95. New Mexico St.
102. Idaho
108. San Jose St.
113. Utah St.
LINK: <a href='http://collegefootballnews.com/' target='_blank'>CollegeFootballNews</a>
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| 06-27-2005 04:30 PM |
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ejmpalle
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I'd be willing to bet that Utah St does not end up last in the conference. I don't know who that'll be. Maybe Idaho, NMSU or San Jose St, but not Utah St. New Mexico St has a VERY difficult schedule, arguably the toughest schedule of all of the WAC teams.
They play UTEP(who many are picking to win C-USA)-@Colorado-@New Mexico (who many are picking to win the MWC)-California(returning from a great year last year).
That could easily be an 0-4 start for them. I can see the confidence going down the tubes to begin the season with a new coach.
And after those 4 they have @La Tech, Fresno St, @Hawai'i (never easy to win on the islands). They'd be lucky to be 0-7 at this point.
Can you see the confidence going down the tubes at this point? Obviously, this is a pessimistic view, but in all probability it is more likely for NMSU to start 0-7 than it is for Utah St or Idaho or SJSU. Therefor, if I had to guess I'd guess NMSU ends up at the bottom.
JHMO
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ejmpalle Wrote:They'd be lucky to be 0-7 at this point.
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Wow, imagine if they're unlucky.
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| 06-27-2005 05:51 PM |
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Bah! Those rankings are ridiculous. There's plenty of crappy teams that had sorry years last year ranked above us in there. I think we'll all be a little better at least than those rankings.
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| 06-27-2005 06:04 PM |
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ejmpalle Wrote:I'd be willing to bet that Utah St does not end up last in the conference. I don't know who that'll be. Maybe Idaho, NMSU or San Jose St, but not Utah St. New Mexico St has a VERY difficult schedule, arguably the toughest schedule of all of the WAC teams.
They play UTEP(who many are picking to win C-USA)-@Colorado-@New Mexico (who many are picking to win the MWC)-California(returning from a great year last year).
And after those 4 they have @La Tech, Fresno St, @Hawai'i (never easy to win on the islands). They'd be lucky to be 0-7 at this point.
JHMO
Unfortunately, I can't fault your analysis.
For those counting, that's [B]seven[B] bowl teams on the schedule.
First year coach and new schemes to boot.
Still, hope springs eternal and I'm psyched and ready for kick off.
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| 06-27-2005 08:18 PM |
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Not much respect for Hawaii or Nevada. Hopefully they(cfn) will be proven wrong. I can understand our raking(NMSU) we still have allot to prove and I think it will take a couple of years. I hope HI and NV WILL prove them wrong.
GO WAC!
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| 06-27-2005 09:47 PM |
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I think CFN said that these rankings are based on how good they think the teams are and not based on how they will end up. Hawaii or Nevada may end up with winning records but that doesnt reflect how good CFN thinks they really are. Similarly, NMSU may lose more games then Idaho or SJSU, but thats because they have a harder schedule. A teams record at the end of the season doesn't always reflect how good the team is.
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| 06-27-2005 09:59 PM |
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Ktulu7
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That's just CFN's way of pansying out of us saying, "ah-HAH! told ya!" They'll be proven wrong though.
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| 06-27-2005 10:09 PM |
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I think that CFN may be taking the whole "2 Giants & 7 Dwarfs" thing a little too literally. I cannot believe that there is that big of a difference between BSU & FSU and the rest of the conference. Personally, I dont think that CFN knows what the hell they are talking about in most cases anyway.
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| 06-28-2005 10:52 AM |
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Ktulu7
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They're always full of it to begin with, but what makes everyone think Fresno is so far ahead of everyone every year is beyond me. I'm not bashing either, I think Fresno's a good team, but come'on... They tied with us in the WAC last year and we beat them. Boise gets them every year and the BCS teams they whooped last year sucked. They haven't really proven that they don't belong in the WAC. Boise, however I will give some credit to since none of us have handled them in a long time. Tech has come damn close except for in the second half last year. We're the last team besides them to have beaten them and won the WAC, but that was 3 years ago. Otherwise... this conference has some pretty good competition going on. SJSU has lived on the bottom for a while, but maybe they can pick their program up. Nevada had a lot of problems with thug players and whatnot, but Coach Ault should get them back and running, though I don't understand the media calling them the darkhorse allofasudden. This ain't the Sun Belt with the Kings in Denton smashing all of us so bad that there's no parity whatsoever. Besides.... I think we'll have the Broncs this year in Ruston, mwahahahaha. It'll be decided by a touchdown either for Tech, or for Boise. The Fresno-Boise, and Fresno-Tech games will be good.. the Nevada-Tech game will be good and hopefully another shootout. Who knows about the rest, but it's not two giants (MAYBE one giant, for now) and a bunch of losers.
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| 06-28-2005 11:08 AM |
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Ktulu7 Wrote:the BCS teams [Boise] whooped last year sucked.
That isn't even true. I reviewed last year in another thread that I don't want to relive, but Boise's only win over a BCS school was Oregon St. OSU lost to LSU by a missed extra point, played USC within a TD and 2-pt conversion, finished in a tie for 3rd in the PAC10, and ended the year ranked #17 in Sagarin's computer ranking. Boise thumped them. The ONLY team to beat OSU worse than Boise was Cal.
Add to that the Liberty Bowl. Boise was one of only two teams to take Louisville to the wire, the other being Miami-FL. Miami came out on top, and Boise came up short, but no one else gave Louisville a tougher time. Memphis lost by a TD...no one else was anywhere close.
I agree with you that the gap in the WAC isn't as large as most perceive, but I can't take anything away from what Boise has accomplished.
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| 06-28-2005 12:30 PM |
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Here is the other funny thing about CFN. They say that USU will finish last in this, yet in the <a href='http://www.collegefootballnews.com/wac/2005_Previews/UtahState_Preview.htm' target='_blank'>CFN preview</a> it said that we should win 6 games and anything less would be a disappointment. How does that work? :withstupid:
Anyways our schedule is pretty favorable. We have a tough early season game at Utah but besides that none of the other teams we play in the first 5 games had a winning record. (Except Nicholls State, but they are 1-AA.) We actually do have a shot to make a tiny bit of noise, though I don't expect a bowl or anything above #4 finish.
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| 06-28-2005 12:52 PM |
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erdaaggie Wrote:Here is the other funny thing about CFN. They say that USU will finish last in this, yet in the <a href='http://www.collegefootballnews.com/wac/2005_Previews/UtahState_Preview.htm' target='_blank'>CFN preview</a> it said that we should win 6 games and anything less would be a disappointment. How does that work? :withstupid:
I think your sign says it all. CFN has never had a handle on WAC play. If they get a WAC prediction correct, it is by accident. The only reson I ever read ther web site is for entertainment. Publishing information is not something that they are skilled at.
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| 06-28-2005 01:23 PM |
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Ktulu7
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clpack, ya misunderstood me :) I was talking about the BCS teams Fresno beat, not Boise. I guess it was worded kinda wierd. I meant that they played crappy BCS teams, and Boise beats them every year, so these are two arguments against the big media thing about Fresno being soooo amazing even though <ahem> we beat them last year.. along with some other good ol' WAC teams.
Sorry Fresno guys, I'm not hatin' on ya.
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| 06-28-2005 01:30 PM |
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clpack
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Sorry Ktulu7…I should have read your post twice. It does remind me of someone I know who has a pet peeve about the use of “they
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| 06-28-2005 03:34 PM |
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