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Just wondering what folks think about BSU and the early losses. After last year's run on thought for sure they would continue the run but it appears, like the Utes, their run may be over. Did this conference turn into a one trick pony with Fresno? Man, I hope not. I know it's a long season but our conference is not looking so sharp right now. The Mountain West on the other hand, is looking a little better right now.

For only the second time ever I will be rooting for Fresno just so that WAC gets a solid win. Otherwise, I hope that the Spartans take them down.
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Just because Boise doesn't beat an underranked Georgia and loses a close one to some Oregon team doesn't mean that they won't be a force to be reckoned with come conference play. You say that Boise isn't a horse anymore because they lost to two BCS teams, yet Fresno is one because they beat Weber St.? Get real. We all know that it's Boise and Fresno, then the rest of us, but it's way too early to be making some of the statements you made. Boise and Fresno will be fine, and so will at least 3 or 4 others...I just hope Tech is one of them.
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SJGregg Wrote:Just wondering what folks think about BSU and the early losses. After last year's run on thought for sure they would continue the run but it appears, like the Utes, their run may be over. Did this conference turn into a one trick pony with Fresno? Man, I hope not. I know it's a long season but our conference is not looking so sharp right now. The Mountain West on the other hand, is looking a little better right now.

For only the second time ever I will be rooting for Fresno just so that WAC gets a solid win. Otherwise, I hope that the Spartans take them down.
Here's my biased opinion of where the Broncos are at.

The most important thing for us Bronco fans to remember is that we're still really new to D1 ball. This and the fact the university growing fast in all aspects, with athletic facilities and dept growth the most visible, puts a bunch of pressure on the team to win these marquee OOC games. The team's first forray into SEC country in 2001 did not come with any expectations and the Broncos came thier closest (7 points) to winning and were stopped at the goalline as time expired. Every other visit, like the one this year, the team had that deer in the headlights look going into the stadium.

This years Bronco team is more talented than last year's team everywhere but the secondary. But they haven't gotten over the hump on the road against quality BCS teams. Once that floodgate opens, I expect their road record against the BCS to start looking like our home record against the BCS the past 5 years (2-2).

The Bowling Green game will show us if the jitters are gone or not, replaced by the confidence they've had the past 4 years. And when the WAC games start, I have no doubt we'll see the same Broncos. But is very dissapointing that the confidence and swagger dissapear on the road against the BCS. In this area, Fresno's program is well ahead of us. They've been there and done that, and it doesn't seem to geek their players out like it does ours.
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Roughrider Wrote:
SJGregg Wrote:Just wondering what folks think about BSU and the early losses.  After last year's run on thought for sure they would continue the run but it appears, like the Utes, their run may be over.  Did this conference turn into a one trick pony with Fresno?  Man, I hope not.  I know it's a long season but our conference is not looking so sharp right now. The Mountain West on the other hand, is looking a little better right now.

For only the second time ever I will be rooting for Fresno just so that WAC gets a solid win. Otherwise, I hope that the Spartans take them down.
Here's my biased opinion of where the Broncos are at.

The most important thing for us Bronco fans to remember is that we're still really new to D1 ball. This and the fact the university growing fast in all aspects, with athletic facilities and dept growth the most visible, puts a bunch of pressure on the team to win these marquee OOC games. The team's first forray into SEC country in 2001 did not come with any expectations and the Broncos came thier closest (7 points) to winning and were stopped at the goalline as time expired. Every other visit, like the one this year, the team had that deer in the headlights look going into the stadium.

This years Bronco team is more talented than last year's team everywhere but the secondary. But they haven't gotten over the hump on the road against quality BCS teams. Once that floodgate opens, I expect their road record against the BCS to start looking like our home record against the BCS the past 5 years (2-2).

The Bowling Green game will show us if the jitters are gone or not, replaced by the confidence they've had the past 4 years. And when the WAC games start, I have no doubt we'll see the same Broncos. But is very dissapointing that the confidence and swagger dissapear on the road against the BCS. In this area, Fresno's program is well ahead of us. They've been there and done that, and it doesn't seem to geek their players out like it does ours.
I don't get it. New to D1? Haven't you been D1 for 10 years now? That's not new.

BSU could have made a statement. Instead they were deer in headlights. Got their asses kicked in Georgia and blew it against Oregon St.

What this really shows is that the WAC is all talk. We want respect. We want BCS money. But really we choke. All of us. From the bad teams like SJSU who can draw flies, much less fans to the Boise and Fresno St. who blow it against teams they need to beat. What's worse it that the BSU-Georgia game will be on the minds of the media and it will be brought up every time they talk about the WAC.

BSU should win the WAC this year. They won't face a WAC team with the talent and speed of Georgia.
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.....its a long season. Boise is going to be fine once they hit the conference line up . Nobody in the WAC is a Georgia playing at athens, but two programs I fell are better indicators were oregon state, which I could have swore was a win, but so did alot of boise fans. Boise fans have to realize that- if this trend keeps going- that Z just had a dream of a freshmen season. Just like Paul pinegar, freshmen of the year when he come on,got rattled and had some very mediocre seasons. z has to improve, get more confidence. A few missing ingredients, and some off field incidents really take from a team.
It rattles those young QB's when they find out that they are not god anymore . Once they read all the grips by the fans, and all the people ripping on them, then they try too hard and it snowballs. But boise's biggest concern needs to be on defense, because the offense isnt clicking right now, or else teams are getting better at defending it. I say defense because they are allowing alot of points to be scored. You dont want to get into a shootout with bowling green. Is that game on tv??
boise is still the one to beat until proven otherwise, 04-bow but hey never know, this old WAC had some close games for them last year. Now when they smell blood.....They have been on top so long I dont think their fans would know how to react to a losing or .500 season. They are still a really good team, and I'm glad we have them at home.
LOOK OUT FOR IDAHO! Man they are looking good. I hope this doesnt go to their heads, and they stay focused and dont think they are going to hang tough just by showing up. But a very good showing for idaho, definitely leap frogged Nevada. But hey it's early on yet, I just think Nevada needs mid season before they learn their new system. It doesnt come in one season.
The newbies (utah st,new mexico st) are going to have it rough because they have played most of the WAC teams ,year after year like the rest of us. We all know each other players by heart, and their styles.
Same goes for Louisana tech I think they will get it together by mid season. We need some one to step up as the third team, Hawaii was just depleted by graduation I guess. how long do you stick to the pass only game. Thats so funny you dont really hear them saying lets run the ball 20-25 tiimes from now on. Teams just pin their ears back and come after them. but their defense is going to give you have a chance.
Now time for Fresno state to show it is worthy of a top 20 ranking. The team is really going one game at a time, no talk of Toledo- who I feel is better than Oregon, or at least tougher to stop. but we have toledo at the doghouse which is good.But on a TUESDAY!?! that sucks, time to use that sick day!
Cheer up guys, Fresno is rolling on all cylinders, and is going to make it where it isnt even close enough for those PAC10 refs to give the game away 05-nono
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goBulldogs01 Wrote:.....its a long season. Boise is going to be fine once they hit the conference line up . Nobody in the WAC is a Georgia playing at athens, but two programs I fell are better indicators were oregon state, which I could have swore was a win, but so did alot of boise fans. Boise fans have to realize that- if this trend keeps going- that Z just had a dream of a freshmen season. Just like Paul pinegar, freshmen of the year when he come on,got rattled and had some very mediocre seasons. z has to improve, get more confidence. A few missing ingredients, and some off field incidents really take from a team.
It rattles those young QB's when they find out that they are not god anymore . Once they read all the grips by the fans, and all the people ripping on them, then they try too hard and it snowballs. But boise's biggest concern needs to be on defense, because the offense isnt clicking right now, or else teams are getting better at defending it. I say defense because they are allowing alot of points to be scored. You dont want to get into a shootout with bowling green. Is that game on tv??
boise is still the one to beat until proven otherwise, 04-bow but hey never know, this old WAC had some close games for them last year. Now when they smell blood.....They have been on top so long I dont think their fans would know how to react to a losing or .500 season. They are still a really good team, and I'm glad we have them at home.
LOOK OUT FOR IDAHO! Man they are looking good. I hope this doesnt go to their heads, and they stay focused and dont think they are going to hang tough just by showing up. But a very good showing for idaho, definitely leap frogged Nevada. But hey it's early on yet, I just think Nevada needs mid season before they learn their new system. It doesnt come in one season.
The newbies (utah st,new mexico st) are going to have it rough because they have played most of the WAC teams ,year after year like the rest of us. We all know each other players by heart, and their styles.
Same goes for Louisana tech I think they will get it together by mid season. We need some one to step up as the third team, Hawaii was just depleted by graduation I guess. how long do you stick to the pass only game. Thats so funny you dont really hear them saying lets run the ball 20-25 tiimes from now on. Teams just pin their ears back and come after them. but their defense is going to give you have a chance.
Now time for Fresno state to show it is worthy of a top 20 ranking. The team is really going one game at a time, no talk of Toledo- who I feel is better than Oregon, or at least tougher to stop. but we have toledo at the doghouse which is good.But on a TUESDAY!?! that sucks, time to use that sick day!
Cheer up guys, Fresno is rolling on all cylinders, and is going to make it where it isnt even close enough for those PAC10 refs to give the game away 05-nono
oH YEA GAME IS ON STAURDAY AT 4PM TBS, I listed Friday in one post.


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Tuesday AND Wednesday Games SUCK!!!!! I like the traditional Saturday Afternoon College football games. Tailgate in the Morning, Football in the Afternoon and celebrate in the evening.

The Broncos will be Okay and they should have beat the Beavers, but it's the old could've, would've should've thing. Beavers aren't bad.

I think Bowling Green is better than the Beavers, glad we got them at home and I hope their QB joins the NFL early.....I mean before the Broncos have to play them at their place next season.
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HUMMMM< are the Broncos still the cream of the WAC??? Well sometimes the cream settles a little, but cream always rises to the top. Will the Broncos??? I think that will be answered on Wed. against BGSU, with our pass defense it
scares the poo poo out of me.

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SJSpartans&amp;Sharks Wrote:
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SJGregg Wrote:Just wondering what folks think about BSU and the early losses.  After last year's run on thought for sure they would continue the run but it appears, like the Utes, their run may be over.  Did this conference turn into a one trick pony with Fresno?  Man, I hope not.  I know it's a long season but our conference is not looking so sharp right now. The Mountain West on the other hand, is looking a little better right now.

For only the second time ever I will be rooting for Fresno just so that WAC gets a solid win. Otherwise, I hope that the Spartans take them down.
Here's my biased opinion of where the Broncos are at.

The most important thing for us Bronco fans to remember is that we're still really new to D1 ball. This and the fact the university growing fast in all aspects, with athletic facilities and dept growth the most visible, puts a bunch of pressure on the team to win these marquee OOC games. The team's first forray into SEC country in 2001 did not come with any expectations and the Broncos came thier closest (7 points) to winning and were stopped at the goalline as time expired. Every other visit, like the one this year, the team had that deer in the headlights look going into the stadium.

This years Bronco team is more talented than last year's team everywhere but the secondary. But they haven't gotten over the hump on the road against quality BCS teams. Once that floodgate opens, I expect their road record against the BCS to start looking like our home record against the BCS the past 5 years (2-2).

The Bowling Green game will show us if the jitters are gone or not, replaced by the confidence they've had the past 4 years. And when the WAC games start, I have no doubt we'll see the same Broncos. But is very dissapointing that the confidence and swagger dissapear on the road against the BCS. In this area, Fresno's program is well ahead of us. They've been there and done that, and it doesn't seem to geek their players out like it does ours.
I don't get it. New to D1? Haven't you been D1 for 10 years now? That's not new.

BSU could have made a statement. Instead they were deer in headlights. Got their asses kicked in Georgia and blew it against Oregon St.

What this really shows is that the WAC is all talk. We want respect. We want BCS money. But really we choke. All of us. From the bad teams like SJSU who can draw flies, much less fans to the Boise and Fresno St. who blow it against teams they need to beat. What's worse it that the BSU-Georgia game will be on the minds of the media and it will be brought up every time they talk about the WAC.

BSU should win the WAC this year. They won't face a WAC team with the talent and speed of Georgia.
And how long has SJSU been at it. It's relative isn't it? By the way, the SEC gets rolled like that in Georgia on a regular basis. LSU got beat by the same margin there the year after they won the national championship.

Sorry we've dissapointed you.
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SJSU football team is almost 100 years old. We don't use the excuse like BSU fans that we're new to D1. And notice the message was asking about BSU. I certainly am not bragging about SJ. Even the moron COWARD anthony wouldn't do that.

What's the matter? Can't take the heat roughrider? D1 too tough for BSU? Want to go back to the Big Sky?
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SJSpartans&amp;Sharks Wrote:SJSU football team is almost 100 years old. We don't use the excuse like BSU fans that we're new to D1. And notice the message was asking about BSU. I certainly am not bragging about SJ. Even the moron COWARD anthony wouldn't do that.

What's the matter? Can't take the heat roughrider? D1 too tough for BSU? Want to go back to the Big Sky?
What heat? A bleeting sjsu fan? Try again.


You want respect? Try earning it yourself instead of depending on Boise to do it for you. We're obvisously not the team we have been this year. Again, so sorry you are dissapointed, I'll call the coaches and make sure they turn the heat up for you.
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Roughrider Wrote:
SJSpartans&amp;Sharks Wrote:SJSU football team is almost 100 years old.&nbsp; We don't use the excuse like BSU fans that we're new to D1.&nbsp; And notice the message was asking about BSU.&nbsp; I certainly am not bragging about SJ.&nbsp; Even the moron COWARD anthony wouldn't do that.

What's the matter?&nbsp; Can't take the heat roughrider?&nbsp; D1 too tough for BSU?&nbsp; Want to go back to the Big Sky?
What heat? A bleeting sjsu fan? Try again.


You want respect? Try earning it yourself instead of depending on Boise to do it for you. We're obvisously not the team we have been this year. Again, so sorry you are dissapointed, I'll call the coaches and make sure they turn the heat up for you.
The heat of playing a BCS team at their place and getting your butts kicked. See Georgia game. The heat of losing to an Oregon St team that isn't very good.

If BSU wants respect they need to step it up. Not look like a bunch of deer in headlights.

Again please show me where anything was mentioned about San Jose?
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SJSpartans&amp;Sharks Wrote:
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SJSpartans&amp;Sharks Wrote:SJSU football team is almost 100 years old.  We don't use the excuse like BSU fans that we're new to D1.  And notice the message was asking about BSU.  I certainly am not bragging about SJ.  Even the moron COWARD anthony wouldn't do that.

What's the matter?  Can't take the heat roughrider?  D1 too tough for BSU?  Want to go back to the Big Sky?
What heat? A bleeting sjsu fan? Try again.


You want respect? Try earning it yourself instead of depending on Boise to do it for you. We're obvisously not the team we have been this year. Again, so sorry you are dissapointed, I'll call the coaches and make sure they turn the heat up for you.
The heat of playing a BCS team at their place and getting your butts kicked. See Georgia game. The heat of losing to an Oregon St team that isn't very good.

If BSU wants respect they need to step it up. Not look like a bunch of deer in headlights.

Again please show me where anything was mentioned about San Jose?
You are preaching to the choir. Boise fans aren't happy with Zabransky's meltdowns in both games either.
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Quote:Just wondering what folks think about BSU and the early losses. After last year's run on thought for sure they would continue the run but it appears, like the Utes, their run may be over. Did this conference turn into a one trick pony with Fresno? Man, I hope not. I know it's a long season but our conference is not looking so sharp right now. The Mountain West on the other hand, is looking a little better right now.

For only the second time ever I will be rooting for Fresno just so that WAC gets a solid win. Otherwise, I hope that the Spartans take them down.

It isn't BSU, Fresno, UH, La Tech or even Nevada that make the WAC look bad. It is teams like SJSU. Teams that suck so bad that the good teams recruiting gets hurt because no one even wants to play the crappy conference schedule against some of the worst teams in college football. Teams like SJSU hurt the rest of league by bringing it down.

Quit trying to ride coat tails and do something for yourselves.
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Come on guys, not one team in the WAC has the right to
smack anyone else. This is a conference thing, we just have to keep working at it. Some will do better than others but we must all row this boat or it will sink.

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