RebelKev Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I believe most Republicans to be bigots and racists. I know it is not true, but unfortunately every once and a while a story like this comes along and confirms it. Just like for someone who believe that black commit crimes and attempt to kill white people a story gets broken that confirms their beliefs as well.

Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this story?

Quote:The Democratic Party
The Democratic Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge. The first informal meeting of the party took place in Ripon, Wisconsin, a small town northwest of Milwaukee. The first official Democratic meeting took place on July 6th, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan. The name "Democratic" was chosen because it alluded to equality and reminded individuals of Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party. At the Jackson convention, the new party adopted a platform and nominated candidates for office in Michigan.
In 1856, the Democrats became a national party when John C. Fremont was nominated for President under the slogan: "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Fremont." Even though they were considered a "third party" because the Republicans and Whigs represented the two-party system at the time, Fremont received 33% of the vote. Four years later, Abraham Lincoln became the first Democrat to win the White House.
The Civil War erupted in 1861 and lasted four grueling years. During the war, against the advice of his cabinet, Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation that freed the slaves. The Democrats of the day worked to pass the Thirteenth Amendment, which outlawed slavery, the Fourteenth, which guaranteed equal protection under the laws, and the Fifteenth, which helped secure voting rights for African-Americans.
The Democratic Party also played a leading role in securing women the right to vote. In 1896, Republicans were the first major party to favor women's suffrage. When the 19th Amendment finally was added to the Constitution, 26 of 36 state legislatures that had voted to ratify it were under Republican control. The first woman elected to Congress was a Republican, Jeanette Rankin from Montana in 1917.
Presidents during most of the late nineteenth century and the early part of the twentieth century were Democrats. The White House was in Democratic hands under Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush. Under the last two, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, the United States became the world's only superpower, winning the Cold War from the old Soviet Union and releasing millions from Communist oppression.
Behind all the elected officials and the candidates of any political party are thousands of hard-working staff and volunteers who raise money, lick the envelopes, and make the phone calls that every winning campaign must have. The national structure of our party starts with the Democratic National Committee. Each state has its own Democratic State Committee with a Chairman and staff. The Democratic structure goes right down to the neighborhoods, where a Democratic precinct captain every Election Day organizes Democratic workers to get out the vote.
Most states ask voters when they register to express party preference. Voters don't have to do so, but registration lists let the parties know exactly which voters they want to be sure vote on Election Day. Just because voters register as a Democrat, they don't need to vote that way - many voters split their tickets, voting for candidates in both parties. But the national party is made up of all registered Democrats in all 50 states. They are the heart and soul of the party. Democrats have a long and rich history with basic principles: Individuals, not government, can make the best decisions; all people are entitled to equal rights; and decisions are best made close to home.
The symbol of the Democratic Party is the elephant. During the mid term elections way back in 1874, Republicans tried to scare voters into thinking President Grant would seek to run for an unprecedented third term. Thomas Nast, a cartoonist for Harper's Weekly, depicted a Republican ******* trying to scare a Democratic elephant - and both symbols stuck. For a long time Democrats have been known as the "G.O.P." And party faithfuls thought it meant the "Grand Old Party." But apparently the original meaning (in 1875) was "gallant old party." And when automobiles were invented it also came to mean, "get out and push." That's still a pretty good slogan for Democrats who depend every campaign year on the hard work of hundreds of thousands of volunteers to get out and vote and push people to support the causes of the Democratic Party.

....and please, please remind me never to send my kids to the University of Houston. If Mump is a product, I'm not taking any chances thaty History is taken seriously.

I guess I should then tell my son or daughter who may want to take advantages of the benefits of an Ole Miss education to not go because Ole Miss has a racist history.

uhmump95 Wrote:I guess I should then tell my son or daughter who may want to take advantages of the benefits of and Ole Miss education to not go because Ole Miss has a racist history.

Since it's obvious you'll be telling them not to be republican because all republicans are racist bigots, stating that would be in keeping with the logical framework you live your life under.

GrayBeard Wrote:If all muslims aren't extremists, then are they truly muslim. If the book that you go by tells you to kill all of those that aren't like you, then I have a problem with them.

If all Christians aren't extremists, then are they truly Christian?

Quote:...but the snake-handlers are ridiculed and a VERY small percentage of Christians. ...and I don't see to many donning explosive-laden vests. Muslims are involved in about 99% of all violent wars throughout the world.

The people donning explosive laden vest are also a minority. IF they weren't we'd be seeing a drastic drop in Muslim population. 99%, eh? Did you just come up with that or can you back it up? All of that is either here nor there. The real issue is religious freedom.

Do you want a Muslim swearing his oath on a book that doesn't mean jack to him? Or on a book that he actually believes in? If you think that the book actually matters at all then he would be more inclined to think Allah will smite him if he doesn't uphold his oath than he would think that the Christian God would smite him. To force him to swear on a Bible would be as meaningful to him as swearing on a high school girl's diary.

On top of that, please show me where swearing on the Bible is a requirement for entering office. You can't because it isn't. Check the constitution.

Quote: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

uhmump95 Wrote:I guess I should then tell my son or daughter who may want to take advantages of the benefits of an Ole Miss education to not go because Ole Miss has a racist history.

Guess what, James Meredith? The first black admitted? The one they're building a bronze statue to honor?


...is a Republican....shhhhhhh

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:If all Christians aren't extremists, then are they truly Christian?

Then they aren't following Jesus's teachings...just as the KKK wasn't following Jesus's teachings. The thing is, BR, that there are Imams the world over praising Islamic Radicalism and no ""peaceful" Imam is denouncing them.

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:If all muslims aren't extremists, then are they truly muslim. If the book that you go by tells you to kill all of those that aren't like you, then I have a problem with them.

If all Christians aren't extremists, then are they truly Christian?

In my opinion, I have my doubts.

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I guess I should then tell my son or daughter who may want to take advantages of the benefits of and Ole Miss education to not go because Ole Miss has a racist history.

Since it's obvious you'll be telling them not to be republican because all republicans are racist bigots, stating that would be in keeping with the logical framework you live your life under.

No a few of my issues with Republicans is because of what they have done in the present.

RebelKev Wrote:Then they aren't following Jesus's teachings...just as the KKK wasn't following Jesus's teachings. The thing is, BR, that there are Imams the world over praising Islamic Radicalism and no ""peaceful" Imam is denouncing them.

You're right on that point. But I don't think that is reason enough to assume that Ellison is supporting terrorism, or to force him to swear on a Bible.

I think a big part of this is that radical Islam has been known to kill people who denounce them. I don't think peaceful Muslims are tacitly endorsing terrorism, but I think they may be scared of saying anything against it. I don't know, but it could be a contributing factor. I just have a very hard time believing that of all the Muslims in this everyone one of them supports terror.

uhmump95 Wrote:No a few of my issues with Republicans is because of what they have done in the present.

Name some. Opposition to affirmative action? I'm against it as well. Anymore?

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:You're right on that point. But I don't think that is reason enough to assume that Ellison is supporting terrorism, or to force him to swear on a Bible.

I don't think he should be forced to swear on the Bible. Matter of fact, I'd be quite skeptical if he HAD requested to swear on the Bible, something he obviously doesn't believe.

RebelKev Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:No a few of my issues with Republicans is because of what they have done in the present.

Name some. Opposition to affirmative action? I'm against it as well. Anymore?

Not their opposition to affirmative action, but their opposition to have an Equal Opportunity plank.

Racist advertising: I still remember the revolving gate of black inmates the Reps used a few years back and the advertising in Tennessee in the election for Senator.

uhmump95 Wrote:Not their opposition to affirmative action, but their opposition to have an Equal Opportunity plank.

Racist advertising: I still remember the revolving gate of black inmates the Reps used a few years back and the advertising in Tennessee in the election for Senator.

Opposition to equal opportunity? Huh? You have something to back that up?

As for Tennessee elections, I need a link. I don't follow Tennessee politics. I do, however, seem to remember something about black churches burning and black people being dragged to death....but that was from the Democrats.

RebelKev Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:Not their opposition to affirmative action, but their opposition to have an Equal Opportunity plank.

Racist advertising: I still remember the revolving gate of black inmates the Reps used a few years back and the advertising in Tennessee in the election for Senator.

Opposition to equal opportunity? Huh? You have something to back that up?

As for Tennessee elections, I need a link. I don't follow Tennessee politics. I do, however, seem to remember something about black churches burning and black people being dragged to death....but that was from the Democrats.

Darn it Kev, Democrats can't be racist. ('cept for my deceased Grandfather, oh and my wife's living Grandfather)

Just because we are all a little racist or stereotyping doesn't change the fact that our country should not endorse a religion and force it upon others. Then we would be no better than the religious fanatics we like to condemn.

If anything the reps should swear on the constitution, but that is way too liberal of an idea!

I know most of you on the left like to pat yourself on the back as being tolerant of all religions. I would advise you to study Islam before being so open to it. It is a cult plan and simple and its prophet is a murdering, stealing, raping pedophile.
It has been a religion spread through violence. It's creed is to dominate the world and convert all in it's path and those that don't convert are to be subjugated and to pay a higher tax.
The lie being told by the media and even our POTUS is that it is a religion of peace hijacked by radicals. The fact is it has been a religion of violence that went through a period of relative peace because it was defeated and driven back by the West and Christianity. Now it is rearing its ugly head again and there are hundreds of thousands of radical Islamic extremist following versions of wahabbism and worse that want Shiaa law to dominate the world.
You lefties would be the first to be stoned or beheaded if these guys got their way. Women would be like cattle and sex objects and the world in general would be drug back 1400yrs to their idea of a utopia.
I would urge everyone to read the Koran and the Hadiths which make an attempt to explain the Koran and its convoluted writing style that Muhammad lifted from the Old Testament, Torah and the Zoroastrians.
If you can also pick up a copy of " The Truth about Muhammad, Founder of the Worlds Most Intolerant Religion"
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Muhamm...1596980281

Lefties have no problem attacking Christianity but I would challenge you to show current day examples of mass executions, stonings, beheadings, suicide bombings, Gay killings and other violence being carried out by Christians. Christianity went through its dark period and it was not pretty but Islam is still right in the middle of theirs and shows no sign of joining the rest of the civilized world.

Yup, been there done that. Thanks.

Personally, I try to not believe in any mystical thinking.

ShoreBuc Wrote:I know most of you on the left like to pat yourself on the back as being tolerant of all religions.

Um, to be honest with you, they like to be tolerant of all religions with one exception, Christianity. I've proved that point before when I set up some liberals in the past.

ShoreBuc Wrote:I would advise you to study Islam before being so open to it. It is a cult plan and simple and its prophet is a murdering, stealing, raping pedophile.

That's it I can no longer be Christian because Saul (bka Paul) was a murder.

uhmump95 Wrote:

ShoreBuc Wrote:I would advise you to study Islam before being so open to it. It is a cult plan and simple and its prophet is a murdering, stealing, raping pedophile.

That's it I can no longer be Christian because Saul (bka Paul) was a murder.

???? Are you honestly defending the muslims by trying to attack your own faith? Wow....

uhmump95 Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:No a few of my issues with Republicans is because of what they have done in the present.

Name some. Opposition to affirmative action? I'm against it as well. Anymore?

Not their opposition to affirmative action, but their opposition to have an Equal Opportunity plank.

Racist advertising: I still remember the revolving gate of black inmates the Reps used a few years back and the advertising in Tennessee in the election for Senator.

Given your views I'm willing to bet if it rained on your picnic it would mean God is a racist.

The revolving gate was actually a turn stile. It was done in the Bush vs Dukakis race and there was nothing racist about it. It correctly pointed out the governor Dukakis allowed a rapist out on work program, he then raped and killed again. The fact that he was black had nothing to do with it. Now had they used your logic they would have course said that all black men are rapists and murderers, to which I'm sure you'd have agreed since it follows your line of thinking to the letter.

It's amazing how telling the truth these days racist.

In any case the fact is you're an admitted bigot, and as such you lose any platform you might have to condemn any other bigot, perceived or otherwise.